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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.03.26 06:13:00 -
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That was a nice kill. Illustrates the value of Falcon support pretty clearly. Too bad all that potential loot got fried. The mid-slot salvager is an item that was introduced in the boost patch. CCP felt that the cost of faction battleships was getting too low, and they wanted to help out the guys who were manufacturing Marauders by driving faction BS costs back up. They did this by limiting the amount of faction BSs any one person could purchase from an LP store to one. Once you purchased that one then that place in the LP store is replaced by a mid-slot version of what is normally a high slot module. So if you're willing to spend 600k LPs on a mid-slot salvager now you can do that. Everyone is happy, according to CCP.
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John Grimm
Rendili StarDrive Yards
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Posted - 2008.03.26 06:27:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum That was a nice kill. Illustrates the value of Falcon support pretty clearly. Too bad all that potential loot got fried. The mid-slot salvager is an item that was introduced in the boost patch. CCP felt that the cost of faction battleships was getting too low, and they wanted to help out the guys who were manufacturing Marauders by driving faction BS costs back up. They did this by limiting the amount of faction BSs any one person could purchase from an LP store to one. Once you purchased that one then that place in the LP store is replaced by a mid-slot version of what is normally a high slot module. So if you're willing to spend 600k LPs on a mid-slot salvager now you can do that. Everyone is happy, according to CCP.
OK. I'm hgopping you are joking, but i can't be sure couse you are sooo serious.
To the op: . Nice one dude...
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Wet Ferret
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.26 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: John Grimm
Originally by: Dirk Magnum That was a nice kill. Illustrates the value of Falcon support pretty clearly. Too bad all that potential loot got fried. The mid-slot salvager is an item that was introduced in the boost patch. CCP felt that the cost of faction battleships was getting too low, and they wanted to help out the guys who were manufacturing Marauders by driving faction BS costs back up. They did this by limiting the amount of faction BSs any one person could purchase from an LP store to one. Once you purchased that one then that place in the LP store is replaced by a mid-slot version of what is normally a high slot module. So if you're willing to spend 600k LPs on a mid-slot salvager now you can do that. Everyone is happy, according to CCP.
OK. I'm hgopping you are joking, but i can't be sure couse you are sooo serious.
To the op: . Nice one dude...
Yeah, umm wtf?
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Fergus Nuada
Red. Red Republic
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Posted - 2008.03.26 06:54:00 -
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Apparently, the more you write on the forums in CAPS, the less chance you get of faction drops from people you pewpew
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2008.03.26 08:00:00 -
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NO VELDSPAR WAS DROPPED! OMG HAX EXPLOIT!
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VinkNut
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.26 08:05:00 -
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BTW just to point out his whine is quite valid, faction loot nearly always gets destroyed there seems to be some kind of issue with how it drops.....
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.03.26 08:30:00 -
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doesn't it have to do with the low amount of structure faction loot has? I vaguely recall something like that, if you look in the repair window. I think every item gets a random X amount of damage (for example between 0 and 50). An item with only 20 structure (say a faction item) has a 60% of being destroyed in such a case (60% chance that random amount X is greater than 20), while an item with 35 structure only has a 30% chance of being destroyed. (Figures are as an illustration only, I didn't check em).
If you wanna check if this is correct, look at a repair screen and check the hitpoints of various items. I am not entirely sure, but this is how I remember it.
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Dahak2150
Chaos Monkeys
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Posted - 2008.03.26 10:44:00 -
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I BELIEVE THAT IS A KILLMAIL!
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Gentle Bra
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.26 11:49:00 -
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Grats on the kill, maximum lol @ teh drop! 
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.03.26 11:54:00 -
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Hahahah... owned  ------------
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Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.03.26 12:08:00 -
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roffle roffle
If I had to guess, I'd say items with higher meta levels have a lower base drop chance. Would explain why T1 crap drops all the time and most of the faction stuff gets wiped out every single time.
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J'Mkarr Soban
Proxenetae Invicti
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Posted - 2008.03.26 12:30:00 -
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So...you are complaining because you got less than what there was, which is still more than nothing?
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Cpt Branko
Surge. Night's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.03.26 12:37:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 26/03/2008 12:40:32 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 26/03/2008 12:39:35
Originally by: F'nog
This just goes to show that the chance of a mod surviving is inversely proportional to its worth on the market.
When I kill people the faction loot survives in like 90% of the cases 
Top named/T2 stuff, on the other hand, explodes a lot.
The way loot drops are handled is quite ******** though, there's a ton of randomness involved which is just annoying.
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GenShadowfawx
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.26 13:35:00 -
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bwahahahah. I'm not laughing at you Solj. I'm just so happy it didn't happen to me.
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Xaen
Caritas.
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Posted - 2008.03.26 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Soljisk
Originally by: Kylar Renpurs OK, I looked again. Almost all the faction gear got cooked? Well sooky-booey-hooey if that's what the 'problem' is.
YES THATS THE PROBLEM ALL OF IT AND I GOT ADAPTIVE NANO PLATING II WTF IS THAT?!!?!?!?
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Alz Shado
Ever Flow
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Posted - 2008.03.26 14:39:00 -
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Something tells me you REALLY should have tried to ransom him first.
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Tchell Dahhn
Deny Reality
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Posted - 2008.03.26 15:18:00 -
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"I blew up this Megathron Navy Issue and all I got was this lousy Core A-Type 100MN Afterburner..."
You should print that on a t-shirt.

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E11
Logistical Anomaly
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Posted - 2008.03.26 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Alz Shado Something tells me you REALLY should have tried to ransom him first.
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Mavericks
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Posted - 2008.03.26 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: E11
Originally by: Alz Shado Something tells me you REALLY should have tried to ransom him first.
We did, the guy was broke.
Well he can just spend another $1000 on another batch of GTC's and refit.
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Jolliejoe
Quad Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.03.26 17:37:00 -
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And the point of this whining thread being???
Looking at your killboard it seems you have found a way to gank and kill BS in high sec without losing any ships. I wonder why that is.
Or do you guys just "forget" to post your losses?
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the member
Republic University
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Posted - 2008.03.26 17:57:00 -
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that's a Templar, the Amarr fighter, it's a combat drone used by carriers.
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Alz Shado
Ever Flow
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Posted - 2008.03.26 18:04:00 -
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Upon closer examination it seems that, much like shuttles, the Megathron Navy Issue doesn't appear to tank very well.
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000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
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Posted - 2008.03.26 18:20:00 -
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Soljisk is a famous mission runner ganker living around Dod.
He tricks players to gang his alt, who's at war with his corp, they gang up the alt, and get omgwtfpwnbbq'ed.
Actually apparently nowadays he's started to ask for ransom and then blowing up his victims (which is very unsporting tbh)
He does sell nice and cheap faction wares though, did u sell those 425 proto's yet Sol?  _______________________________________________________ CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!!
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Tippia
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.03.26 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Soljisk TELL ME WTF THIS IS
Really, really funny?
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Soljisk
Logistical Anomaly
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Posted - 2008.03.26 19:34:00 -
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Edited by: Soljisk on 26/03/2008 19:35:17
Originally by: Alz Shado Something tells me you REALLY should have tried to ransom him first.
I did ransom took all he had 146 mil, but you know i wasn't going to let faction like that get away.
Originally by: 000Hunter000 Soljisk is a famous mission runner ganker living around Dod.
He tricks players to gang his alt, who's at war with his corp, they gang up the alt, and get omgwtfpwnbbq'ed.
Actually apparently nowadays he's started to ask for ransom and then blowing up his victims (which is very unsporting tbh)
He does sell nice and cheap faction wares though, did u sell those 425 proto's yet Sol? 
I always sell those right away on the market for 10+ mil each.
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Ulstan
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.03.26 19:35:00 -
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This is what happens when you shoot people instead of ransoming them.
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Ulstan
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.03.26 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000 Soljisk is a famous mission runner ganker living around Dod.
He tricks players to gang his alt, who's at war with his corp, they gang up the alt, and get omgwtfpwnbbq'ed.
Actually apparently nowadays he's started to ask for ransom and then blowing up his victims (which is very unsporting tbh)
He does sell nice and cheap faction wares though, did u sell those 425 proto's yet Sol? 
Haha in that case its even funnier the OP got owned.
Quote: I did ransom took all he had 146 mil, but you know i wasn't going to let faction like that get away.
Sounds like karma to me. In fact, it would be awesome if CCP built this behavior directly into their code, instead of it only happening sometimes :p
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Van Steiza
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.26 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Ulstan
Originally by: 000Hunter000 Soljisk is a famous mission runner ganker living around Dod.
He tricks players to gang his alt, who's at war with his corp, they gang up the alt, and get omgwtfpwnbbq'ed.
Actually apparently nowadays he's started to ask for ransom and then blowing up his victims (which is very unsporting tbh)
He does sell nice and cheap faction wares though, did u sell those 425 proto's yet Sol? 
Haha in that case its even funnier the OP got owned.
Quote: I did ransom took all he had 146 mil, but you know i wasn't going to let faction like that get away.
Sounds like karma to me. In fact, it would be awesome if CCP built this behavior directly into their code, instead of it only happening sometimes :p
You smell.....
Hay soljisk It sucks man it really does :D next time Im going to be there if the I get the sec up :D dont worry :D factoin loots always drop for me... :D
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Daelorn
Dark Cartel Synchr0nicity
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Posted - 2008.03.26 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Tamia Clant roffle roffle
If I had to guess, I'd say items with higher meta levels have a lower base drop chance. Would explain why T1 crap drops all the time and most of the faction stuff gets wiped out every single time.
Yarrr good ISK sink, you spend billions on mods, you die, they all go poof, mission accomplished! WOOOOOO
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Atomos Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2008.03.26 20:45:00 -
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that the one you got last night?
Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
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