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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.04.15 14:26:00 -
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He's right you know. Luke sure wiped the smile off Moff Tarkin's face when he ganked the Death Star. 
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Alex Harumichi
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Posted - 2004.04.15 14:33:00 -
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I'd love to see cruise missiles removed from frigates, I think they make frigate PvP into a bit too much of a game of chance. They also force everyone to fit MWD on their frigate, since with cruise missiles frigates without MWD die instantly in PvP. Without cruise missiles, it would be possible to survive without (though MWD would still be *very* nice).
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Harry Voyager
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Posted - 2004.04.15 14:46:00 -
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That could be done by giving missiles a probability to hit a target, based on the signature size of the target, and the seeker strength on the missile.
I.e. Heavy Torps and Cruise missiles with outdated trackers would have great difficulty keeping lock on a Frigate, even without a MWD.
Harry Voyager
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Marcus Grisbius
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Posted - 2004.04.15 15:02:00 -
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I don't think that having cruise missiles on a frig is a bad idea. Most high end frigate turrets do more damage per second than cruise missile frigs. The missiles can do 300+ dmg but it takes around 20 seconds to fire another. Not to mention that you can defend against missiles. All in all, I don't think that it's out of balance ingame, regardless of any real life comparisons.
Certainty of death... little chance of success... what are we waiting for? - Gimli, son of Gloinn |
Belzavior
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Posted - 2004.04.15 15:13:00 -
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It's not so much a problem with frigs carrying the cruise missiles, as it is with cruise missiles themselvs. You think a kestrel with a cruise missile is unfreindly to you battleship or cruiser, just let one hit your frigate. Frigates running around killing other frigates in a single salvo is just not right. Cruise missiles right now are just too much the weapon of choice no matter what your target is.
But supposedly they are changing all that, and changing the way missiles work. As they put it earlier, cruise missiles will be a long range weapon and very unaccurate at close ranges, much similar to BS turrets. So if you want to be a kestrel pilot firing cruise missiles, you're going to want to fire them from 30+ km. Of course at that range, you're not going to that hard to hit.
The bomber elite frig will HOPEFULLY be more like the way the kestrel pilots operate now, get in close orbit and bombard larger ships. Although in EVE-DB they are listed as long range attack vessels. I don't particularly understand it because I think most know that when a frigate is at long range, the Battleship is very happy.
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Acix
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Posted - 2004.04.15 15:48:00 -
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Cruise will stay........ But I would like to see frigs get one more use. I want to be able to fill my rifter cargo hold full of explosives and kamikaze a battleship. Now that would be fun......... The math could be something like 1/10th the damage of the contents of the cargo hold. Would make for an expensive boom........
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.04.15 15:55:00 -
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We are currently working on a change with agility for missiles, depending on it's speed:
When a missile is at minimum speed it will be sluggish.
When a missile is at maximum speed it will be agile.
We will try to get similar effect to missiles as they are with turrets, i.e. big missiles will have hard time "tracking" small and fast moving objects at close range but have ease to "track" any object at longer range - small missiles "track" super at close range but have short range.
If this will give good results we will still allow frigates to be able to carry cruise missiles at their desire so that they can continue aiding as well as they currently do in large scale fleets.
Plus that we will consider reducing missile volume even more so that players can carry different sized missiles in their cargo bay to be able to counter various ship classes.
Post your thoughts, please try to keep flames and off topic discussions out.
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Prothos
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Posted - 2004.04.15 16:04:00 -
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frigstes will be almost worthless if cruise missles are taken off for that fact if heavy's are even removed.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.04.15 16:07:00 -
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I think frigates should be limited to heavies.
I don't care about r/l comparisons either - if Eve had anything to do with r/l, we wouldn't be shooting 1400mm projectile ammunition through space stations
If you want to fire the big missiles, fly a bigger ship.
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Krusty TheClone
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Posted - 2004.04.15 16:08:00 -
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Grimster you are mistaken, its rather easy currently for a handful of kestrels to take out a BS and with upcoming changes which increase frigate survival rates Cruise need to go from all normal frigates IMHO.
Only Elite frigs should be able to pack them if you ask me
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FileCop AI
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Posted - 2004.04.15 16:31:00 -
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Cruise missiles should definately be removed from frigates. CCP is changing missiles, so that torps, cruise and to a certain extend heavies can't hit frigates anymore.
Now this makes them BS weapons - they have NOTHING to do on a frigate.
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Tronsol
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Posted - 2004.04.15 17:10:00 -
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Dark Stranger
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Posted - 2004.04.15 20:23:00 -
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Cruise missiles should definately be removed from frigates. CCP is changing missiles, so that torps, cruise and to a certain extend heavies can't hit frigates anymore.
Now this makes them BS weapons - they have NOTHING to do on a frigate.
Ok so by that logic, frigates should ONLY fight other frigates, cruisers should ONLY fight other cruisers, and battleships should ONLY fight othe battleships? Warped logic if you ask me.
Cruise missiles are going to be a long range weapon, meaning no more kestrels orbiting at 5km and fireing them off with little risk of dying. They are now going to be firing them off at 20+km and thats hardly a problem for most BS weapons to hit.
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McWatt
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Posted - 2004.04.15 20:55:00 -
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Perception is low, Willpower is high.
Memory is high, Intelligence is low.
Not to get off topic, but I think this perfectly describes most forum trolls.
lol. great!
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