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Holly Hotdrop School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.03.27 04:52:00 - [1] It all came down to fittings, this setup perma-runs with my skills: Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster(b-types work ok too) 2x Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amplifier 3x Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II 2x Core Defence Field Extender I The worst attack(3x brutix!) brought me to half shield before CONCORD dispatched of them, shields at 100% by the time they died. Had several caracals try over the duartion of the week, barely dented my shields. The setup is a bit expensive of course, but if I had lost 8 T1 fitted hulks this week instead, then that would have cost me far, far more. Not to mention the mining time lost. In closing, if you fit cheap T1 Hulks with all mining upgrades then sure you'll get suicided and die every time, but if you put some isk into your hulk instead of WHINING then you can avoid the problem entirely.
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.03.27 04:55:00 - [2] [pithy response]
Kylar Renpurs Dusk Blade	Posted - 2008.03.27 04:55:00 - [3] Now they'll just use 6 Brutix in each attack :) Improve Market Competition!
Hesod Adee Xen Of Onslaught	Posted - 2008.03.27 04:59:00 - [4] And how do you propose the people who don't have the ISK for that setup get the ISK in the first place ?
Cpt Fina Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.03.27 04:59:00 - [5] Edited by: Cpt Fina on 27/03/2008 05:00:18 I survived focused fire from the entire southern Goon sniper-fleet while being puonded on by a small TFCgang up close in my Hulk. RA finally tried to doomsday me a couple of times but my shield was stable at 85%. My fitting: Low: Most expensive mods you can find Mid: Even more expensive mods High: Whatever, nos n' **** maybe. PS: You don't even have to align or look at localchat with this setup.
Marcus TheMartin Tuxedo.	Posted - 2008.03.27 04:59:00 - [6] post it in the mission forums and sell your secrets for big bux
Ava Santiago AAC	Posted - 2008.03.27 05:00:00 - [7] Due to increased needs to push shields down lower %'s, they would need 8. But still, never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
Marcus TheMartin Tuxedo.	Posted - 2008.03.27 05:02:00 - [8] Originally by: Ava Santiago Due to increased needs to push shields down lower %'s, they would need 8. But still, never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. if they were so stupid why would they bring more fire power?
Holly Hotdrop School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.03.27 05:02:00 - [9] Originally by: Cpt Fina Edited by: Cpt Fina on 27/03/2008 05:00:18 I survived focused fire from the entire southern Goon sniper-fleet while being puonded on by a small TFCgang up close in my Hulk. RA finally tried to doomsday me a couple of times but my shield was stable at 85%. My fitting: Low: Most expensive mods you can find Mid: Even more expensive mods High: Whatever, nos n' **** maybe. PS: You don't even have to align or look at localchat with this setup. The lows arent expensive, neither are the rigs, but the mids are neccessary. It tanks vastly more than cheap t2 fit with those mids. Can you come up with a better setup?
Quelque Chose University of Caille	Posted - 2008.03.27 05:11:00 - [10] Originally by: Holly Hotdrop Can you come up with a better setup? Sure. Insurance- tanked covetor with an MLU2 that gets 6% less yield assuming exhumers V -- identical at exhumers III. Given the price difference it'll take you ages to catch up, and if the covetor gets popped... oh well. ______________________________ "Eve Online is a massively multiplayer game about trolling in outer space."
Cutie Chaser Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.03.27 05:11:00 - [11] If people had to invest money into pimping their mining ships the same way people need to pimp their mission boats the world would come to an end! Not to mention it would destroy their self-sought image as the 'downtrodden, poor, working class' of EVE. People have to buy expensive gear to tank for mission rats while they desperately try to slay them. You just need to do the same so you can survive until the friggin police show up and save you. As a side note, I am neither a miner or a ganker ** Thats a Templar, the amarr fighter. Its a combat drone used by carriers.
Rawr Cristina Naqam	Posted - 2008.03.27 05:18:00 - [12] The reason the OP survived wasn't due to the Gistii mods, just the setup in general. Prob would have survived if it were all T2 tbh. Sadly, most Hulks don't fit any tank. ...
Holly Hotdrop School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.03.27 05:23:00 - [13] Originally by: Quelque Chose Originally by: Holly Hotdrop Can you come up with a better setup? Sure. Insurance- tanked covetor with an MLU2 that gets 6% less yield assuming exhumers V -- identical at exhumers III. Given the price difference it'll take you ages to catch up, and if the covetor gets popped... oh well. Every serious miner has Exhumers 5. If the covetor pops, which it will, I've seen covetors popped by single caracals in 0.7 systems, then you will be out around 40m with t2 fit. If I had been flying covetor over the last week or so then that means I would have lost 320m isk + lost mining time. Over time the well fit Hulk pays off easily.
Tel Nikerym Man Train Inc. GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.27 05:23:00 - [14] Originally by: Rawr Cristina The reason the OP survived wasn't due to the Gistii mods, just the setup in general. Prob would have survived if it were all T2 tbh. Sadly, most Hulks don't fit any tank. look at how stupid you are
Cpt Fina Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.03.27 05:25:00 - [15] Edited by: Cpt Fina on 27/03/2008 05:25:56 Originally by: Holly Hotdrop Can you come up with a better setup? Sure: Low: Plates, expensive ones or the most expensive hardeners u can get Mids: Very expensive stuff High: Expensive stuff Rigs: Any kind of Astronautic Rigs will do. Except low friction nozzle joints and polycarbs. oh, and don't align
Quelque Chose University of Caille	Posted - 2008.03.27 05:26:00 - [16] Originally by: Rawr Cristina The reason the OP survived wasn't due to the Gistii mods, just the setup in general. Prob would have survived if it were all T2 tbh. Sadly, most Hulks don't fit any tank. A guy in C+P posted a really good T2 one that was probably a lot cheaper. Basic deal was 2x small shield extender, 2x invuln, EANM (could do better there maybe?), DCU, 2x core def purge (mightn't core def extend make more sense?). EHP per EFT was 27k. But again, without the MLUs it seems to me like you're just paying a crapton of money to say, "look at me I've got a Hulk" because the exhumer skill bonus isn't really all that uber. The cargo space is nice I guess but in a sense it's a deathtrap because it just encourages you to go AFK. ______________________________ "Eve Online is a massively multiplayer game about trolling in outer space."
Holly Hotdrop School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.03.27 05:29:00 - [17] Originally by: Cpt Fina Edited by: Cpt Fina on 27/03/2008 05:25:56 Originally by: Holly Hotdrop Can you come up with a better setup? Sure: Low: Plates, expensive ones or the most expensive hardeners u can get Mids: Very expensive stuff High: Expensive stuff Rigs: Any kind of Astronautic Rigs will do. Except low friction nozzle joints and polycarbs. oh, and don't align If they know what they're doing they'll just use a covert alt to bump you out of alignment. But you clearly don't know anything about how the suiciders work so I might as well ignore your posts. Plate doesn't fit by the way, DC2 is by far the best choice and the PDS stacks positively with the extenders.
Cpt Fina Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.03.27 05:32:00 - [18] Edited by: Cpt Fina on 27/03/2008 05:32:42 Originally by: Holly Hotdrop Originally by: Cpt Fina Edited by: Cpt Fina on 27/03/2008 05:25:56 Originally by: Holly Hotdrop Can you come up with a better setup? Sure: Low: Plates, expensive ones or the most expensive hardeners u can get Mids: Very expensive stuff High: Expensive stuff Rigs: Any kind of Astronautic Rigs will do. Except low friction nozzle joints and polycarbs. oh, and don't align If they know what they're doing they'll just use a covert alt to bump you out of alignment. But you clearly don't know anything about how the suiciders work so I might as well ignore your posts. Plate doesn't fit by the way, DC2 is by far the best choice and the PDS stacks positively with the extenders. No. The idea is to keep the raw hitpointbuffer down while having as much expensive mods on as possible. Nobody would mess with you tbh.
Holly Hotdrop School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.03.27 05:37:00 - [19] Originally by: Cpt Fina Edited by: Cpt Fina on 27/03/2008 05:32:42 Originally by: Holly Hotdrop Originally by: Cpt Fina Edited by: Cpt Fina on 27/03/2008 05:25:56 Originally by: Holly Hotdrop Can you come up with a better setup? Sure: Low: Plates, expensive ones or the most expensive hardeners u can get Mids: Very expensive stuff High: Expensive stuff Rigs: Any kind of Astronautic Rigs will do. Except low friction nozzle joints and polycarbs. oh, and don't align If they know what they're doing they'll just use a covert alt to bump you out of alignment. But you clearly don't know anything about how the suiciders work so I might as well ignore your posts. Plate doesn't fit by the way, DC2 is by far the best choice and the PDS stacks positively with the extenders. No. The idea is to keep the raw hitpointbuffer down while having as much expensive mods on as possible. Nobody would mess with you tbh. Astronautic rigs LOWER your HP since it reduces armor. But please, try and make a setup that FITS with more effective hp than the above that doesn't use T2 rigs. My setup works very well and is honestly quite fun to use. :)
Dapanman1 Beets and Gravy Syndicate The InterBus Initiative	Posted - 2008.03.27 05:39:00 - [20] I call goon alt. Beets, you're among friends.
Cpt Fina Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.03.27 05:41:00 - [21] Originally by: Holly Hotdrop :) Haha! wonderful :)
Marcus TheMartin Tuxedo.	Posted - 2008.03.27 05:42:00 - [22] mining isn't fun i call shenanigans
Quelque Chose University of Caille	Posted - 2008.03.27 05:45:00 - [23] Originally by: Holly Hotdrop Every serious miner has Exhumers 5. If the covetor pops, which it will, I've seen covetors popped by single caracals in 0.7 systems, then you will be out around 40m with t2 fit. If I had been flying covetor over the last week or so then that means I would have lost 320m isk + lost mining time. Over time the well fit Hulk pays off easily. 40 mil? I don't think so. 15 mil for the lasers, 1 mil for the MLU and then there's your insurance cost. The other thing I've got to ask you though is this: where the hell are you mining that you're getting attacked 8 times in a week and why are you still there? I've been in a retriever for about 7 weeks now and I've been can flipped a grand total of once; that's not by accident either. ______________________________ "Eve Online is a massively multiplayer game about trolling in outer space."
Holly Hotdrop School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.03.27 05:50:00 - [24] Originally by: Quelque Chose Originally by: Holly Hotdrop Every serious miner has Exhumers 5. If the covetor pops, which it will, I've seen covetors popped by single caracals in 0.7 systems, then you will be out around 40m with t2 fit. If I had been flying covetor over the last week or so then that means I would have lost 320m isk + lost mining time. Over time the well fit Hulk pays off easily. 40 mil? I don't think so. 15 mil for the lasers, 1 mil for the MLU and then there's your insurance cost. The other thing I've got to ask you though is this: where the hell are you mining that you're getting attacked 8 times in a week and why are you still there? I've been in a retriever for about 7 weeks now and I've been can flipped a grand total of once; that's not by accident either. Fair enough, if you're one of the 2 people that insure your high-sec mining barge then it's closer to 25m, not factoring in lost mining time. Mining in Osmon by the way.
Dapanman1 Beets and Gravy Syndicate The InterBus Initiative	Posted - 2008.03.27 05:52:00 - [25] Originally by: Quelque Chose snip'd Your name means something, but I don't remember what. Beets, you're among friends.
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Reavers.	Posted - 2008.03.27 05:55:00 - [26] I forsee you being primary target due Holly's Hotdroppings :D "The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of ~~gold~~crap"
Shakuul O RLY corp YTMND.	Posted - 2008.03.27 06:03:00 - [27] Is this a troll thread? Doesn't that setup encourage ganks?
Frug Repo Industries R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.03.27 06:21:00 - [28] Originally by: Cpt Fina Edited by: Cpt Fina on 27/03/2008 05:00:18 I survived focused fire from the entire southern Goon sniper-fleet while being puonded on by a small TFCgang up close in my Hulk. RA finally tried to doomsday me a couple of times but my shield was stable at 85%. My fitting: Low: Most expensive mods you can find Mid: Even more expensive mods High: Whatever, nos n' **** maybe. PS: You don't even have to align or look at localchat with this setup. FINA ADMITS TO FLYING A HULK ITT WTF IS GOING ON - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Frug Repo Industries R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.03.27 06:23:00 - [29] Look itsa crow rigged up for pure dps because it's Fina... No, wait, it's a hulk. nvm. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Cpt Fina Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.03.27 06:29:00 - [30] Originally by: Frug FINA ADMITS TO FLYING A HULK ITT WTF IS GOING ON It's just me failing at sarcasm, sry. Originally by: Frug Look itsa crow rigged up for pure dps because it's Fina... No, wait, it's a hulk. nvm. I don't... fly crows whistles

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