Dock up, apply to join, undock, go around looking for a juicy wartarget. When you find one, accept the character into the corp and gank.

You only have to be docked to apply.

Is it wrong that I get wood when you rant??

Gankers tears are the sweetest.

Is it wrong that I get wood when you rant??

Gankers tears are the sweetest.

This will get you in big trouble and possibly a short ban. It has been stated again and again by GM and Devs that this is a bannable exploit and has not changed under the loosening of the corp war deck rules. Do this expect someone to file a petition on you straight away and you'd deserve the ban.

As long as all the Gankers and wardeccers have rep, trading and mining alts in NPC corps your tears are invalid.

Especially regarding the reppers in NPC corps. Just shows how much war deccers in high sec are looking for easy kills.

I agree with your post, but this statement was definitely NOT true. Just sayin'.

How is war dec avoiding not an exploit ?

Money. It is all to do with new player retention. CCP believe that veterans will never unsub.

Money. It is all to do with new player retention. CCP believe that veterans will never unsub.

Or they realize that at some point veterans are going to unsub thus needing new players to fill the gaps. If there is a new pilot and he cant join a corp without 50mil sp toons shooting at him does he keep playing? Probably not.

If it's not just easy kills and griefing you are looking for and actually just the small gang pvp like the OP says he is looking for. Why not make the argument that war decs be a accept/decline situation. If they decline you dont get charged the price of the dec. Thus making dec shields entirely useless, corps that can not defend themselves have a out, and you know the ones that accept are going to make a effort to fight back. Now you have all the small gang pvp you want and better more competitive pvp without the lost isk from corps using dec shields on you.

I don't think many making the exploit argument are going to like this idea though since its not competitive pvp they are actually looking for in high sec war decs.

Have players left EVE because of High Sec war decs they couldn't handle? Sure, but EVE maintained a population growth without allowing players to avoid decs like this. High Sec is safe enough as it is. No one is entitled to a player corp just by having a sub. You have to work to keep things intact. If you can't handle it, there's always the NPC corp.

By the same logic having a sub does not entitle you to provide someone with a bad gaming experience or force them to play the way you want them to. There a a ton of ways you can play EVE and they don't all involve pvp.

I know I cant say this about all corps but the large majority of high sec war dec corps dont really want pvp they just want to one shot someone so they can say "U mad bro" or something else you might expect from a 2 yo that cant form complete words yet. It really is just sad that so many out there get their rocks off by providing a unpleasant gaming experience to others.

War decs don't force people to play the way the deccer wants. There are different ways of dealing with them or avoiding them in the first place. How the deccee deals with it is still their choice.

You missed the most important part of my post: EVE has made it where it is by being the opposite of the way you seem to want it to be.

War decs don't force people to play the way the deccer wants. There are different ways of dealing with them or avoiding them in the first place. How the deccee deals with it is still their choice.

You missed the most important part of my post: EVE has made it where it is by being the opposite of the way you seem to want it to be.

So how the deccee deals with it is their choice and if they chose to use an alliance to nullify the war it is their choice yet this thread and its supporters are crying for the exact opposite to be true. You claim you aren't trying to make the targets play eve your way yet you are trying your damndest to ensure the only paths avaiable to the war target is paying you to go away or go to an npc corp. You cannot stand that there is a valid and useful way past your harassment which allows the war target to continue on enjoying eve the way they want to enjoy it.

Also by "you" I mean the OP and his supporters.

Well the entire origin of the thread is to take away one of the options the decced corp has for dodging a war. So really everything you are using to defend your stance seems to contradict what you are actually defending. By saying " How the deccee deals with it is still their choice" but being in support of limiting those choices really doesn't go with any point you are in support of. Unless by choice you mean a limited number of choices all of which I decide is acceptable for someone else to make.

Everyone always talks about they like EVE because the get to be pirates and its not policed liked other MMO's but then as soon as the defenseless come up with a way to use the system to defend themselves then its a exploit and how dare baby seals find a way not to get clubbed.

yep. Wardec is an intended mechanic, and Dec Shield is abusing other mechanics to completely disable wardecs.

Its also not fair, since alliances are unable to realistically do this.

Its a horribly abused 'feature' and its shocking that CCP approves of it

Instead of everybody complaining about it, why don't we wait and see what they have planned for Inferno?

Ideas will be realised way before then, something as simple as a 48 hour probation timer for leaving an Alliance will make all the difference.

Or am I making to much sense here?

biggest problem with wardec avoidance is that its niegh impossible to take down an undefended hisec tower. Before you could force a corp to either lose the tower or remove it voluntarily during the 24 hour period. Now you can jump around alliances and alternate stront timers for days, each time forcing the aggressors to pay higher and higher wardec fees.

Good point. For that matter, why should a war dec be required at all to attack a hisec POS? It's already protected from capitals by the ban on cyno in 0.5+. It's not like hisec POS owners are defenseless newbs -- anyone with the ISK and experience to anchor a tower should be prepared to defend it in case of attack, regardless of location.

Not everyone can log in once every 24 hours. Why abound every pos be am open Target just to satisfy your desires? Also, wouldn't this pretty much eliminate the need for small or medium poses? Everyone would have to death star up just to avoid roaming griefer gangs.

Further more, are you prepared for the price increase in all t2 mods becayse people feel they can't ruak a pos? Maybe if ccp increased the number of copying, invention, and manufacturing slots in hi sec, this would work, but for now, this is just a horrible idea from some one who's probably never spent a day being an indy toon nor realizes that a player run economy needs poses to produce materials.

It would be more fair if combat risk were attached to the most lucrative activities in high sec, like T2 production, L4 missions and incursions.