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Joseph 9 Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:26:00 - [1] This is the funniest thing I have read all year. The stupidity of certain members of the human race is mind boggling on occasion... http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/03/expelled.php
Shanzem The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:29:00 - [2] Edited by: Shanzem on 27/03/2008 18:32:15 OMFG lmao.. richard dawkins watching a ID movie.. This is incredible i cannot wait for his sum up of all this :D oh and on stupidity get used to it.. its only going to get worse. hell with ID bring natural selection back, the heard needs shake up. -------------------------------------------
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:39:00 - [3] That did give me a giggle. I wonder if they'll refuse to let him rent the DVD, too? ------ Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
Sereifex Daku Intergalactic Squad Celestial Frontier	Posted - 2008.03.27 18:46:00 - [4] Lol, well what do you expect from a load of cretins who believe that the world was created by a bearded man in the sky.
Gaunty Macabre Votum Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.03.27 19:10:00 - [5] Funnily enough i was watching a show on this last night. Something like 4 out of every 10 Americans and UK residents believe in Creationism which totally shocked me tbh. There were people saying they genuinely believed the Earth is only 6000 years old. The creationists stated aim was also on the show and during the interview their spokesperson said they wanted science to become friendly and compatible with Christianity. Basically, false science.
Surfin's PlunderBunny GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.27 19:13:00 - [6] Lying for Jebus! ------------------Sig-------------------------- J. Kerouac said it best in The Vanity of Duluoz: "Go droppeth a turd."
Joseph 9 Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.03.27 19:22:00 - [7] Originally by: Gaunty Funnily enough i was watching a show on this last night. Something like 4 out of every 10 Americans and UK residents believe in Creationism which totally shocked me tbh. There were people saying they genuinely believed the Earth is only 6000 years old. The creationists stated aim was also on the show and during the interview their spokesperson said they wanted science to become friendly and compatible with Christianity. Basically, false science. Those statistics sound wrong to me Gaunty, at the very least they're conflated. US belief in creationism is up around 50% iirc, whilst in the UK it's closer to 10%, 10% too high to be honest, and with the encroachment of rich creationists into Religious and Academy Schools its a moving in a worrying direction, but the US has a far bigger problem than Europe at the moment.
Gaunty Macabre Votum Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.03.27 19:26:00 - [8] Originally by: Joseph 9 Originally by: Gaunty Funnily enough i was watching a show on this last night. Something like 4 out of every 10 Americans and UK residents believe in Creationism which totally shocked me tbh. There were people saying they genuinely believed the Earth is only 6000 years old. The creationists stated aim was also on the show and during the interview their spokesperson said they wanted science to become friendly and compatible with Christianity. Basically, false science. Those statistics sound wrong to me Gaunty, at the very least they're conflated. US belief in creationism is up around 50% iirc, whilst in the UK it's closer to 10%, 10% too high to be honest, and with the encroachment of rich creationists into Religious and Academy Schools its a moving in a worrying direction, but the US has a far bigger problem than Europe at the moment. Ah i dunno mate, i'm going by the show which used a survey done by the BBC on the matter. It was on at 2 in the morning though and i was playing ETQW at the same time so my memory might be a little hazy on it but i'm 90% sure that those were the figures that the surveys showed.
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.03.27 19:27:00 - [9] Oh come on guys, you remember that part in the bible where Jesus made a propoganda movie to misrepresent the ideology of people that didn't agree with him. I mean the part where he kept people he interviewed out of the theater was totally in there! Right guys? Right? ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.79.3 (Updated 3/24)
Shanzem The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.03.27 19:36:00 - [10] Edited by: Shanzem on 27/03/2008 19:36:02 Originally by: Joseph 9 Originally by: Gaunty Funnily enough i was watching a show on this last night. Something like 4 out of every 10 Americans and UK residents believe in Creationism which totally shocked me tbh. There were people saying they genuinely believed the Earth is only 6000 years old. The creationists stated aim was also on the show and during the interview their spokesperson said they wanted science to become friendly and compatible with Christianity. Basically, false science. Those statistics sound wrong to me Gaunty, at the very least they're conflated. US belief in creationism is up around 50% iirc, whilst in the UK it's closer to 10%, 10% too high to be honest, and with the encroachment of rich creationists into Religious and Academy Schools its a moving in a worrying direction, but the US has a far bigger problem than Europe at the moment. hehe Ideocracy, its going to boil down to a Theocracy in the end, its incredible but its like there is a whole culture hell bent on taking this world back to the dark gloomy crap its came from. i am not going to go as far as i hate religion, but it has no right, to class its self as a science (ID), or to actually infringe upon others there beliefs through mass media OR academic means. -------------------------------------------
Fenderson Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.03.27 19:44:00 - [11] there is a video of the discussion between Richard Dawkins and PZ Myers on richard dawkin's site, talking about this: Linkage classic! DO YOU PLAY POKER???? Join ingame channels "DOA Poker" and "Eve Online Hold'em"
Kyrall Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.27 19:48:00 - [12] Edited by: Kyrall on 27/03/2008 19:50:05 Originally by: Shanzem i am not going to go as far as i hate religion, but it has no right, to class its self as a science (ID), or to actually infringe upon others there beliefs through mass media OR academic means. Actually I'm pretty sure they have a right to say whatever they jolly well like, just as you do. Everyone seems to love having a bash at religion on the internet, but they never seem to realise just how bigoted they usually sound. Don't forget that Christians honestly believe that they are right, and that if they didn't try to spread their religion, then they would be leaving others to an eternity in hell, which they could possibly have helped save them from. It may be "obvious" to you that they are wrong, but no more than it is "obvious" to them that they are right. What makes your view more valid? Edit: Oh dammit, now this is going to turn into a discussion of religion! Please don't try to argue, just try to be a little more understanding of other peoples' view points in future. - Originally by: Miss Anthropy Real life friends are over-rated and real doll's are just sad. Companion cube is by far the best choice.
Shanzem The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.03.27 19:59:00 - [13] Originally by: Kyrall Edited by: Kyrall on 27/03/2008 19:50:05 Originally by: Shanzem i am not going to go as far as i hate religion, but it has no right, to class its self as a science (ID), or to actually infringe upon others there beliefs through mass media OR academic means. Actually I'm pretty sure they have a right to say whatever they jolly well like, just as you do. Everyone seems to love having a bash at religion on the internet, but they never seem to realise just how bigoted they usually sound. Don't forget that Christians honestly believe that they are right, and that if they didn't try to spread their religion, then they would be leaving others to an eternity in hell, which they could possibly have helped save them from. It may be "obvious" to you that they are wrong, but no more than it is "obvious" to them that they are right. What makes your view more valid? Edit: Oh dammit, now this is going to turn into a discussion of religion! Please don't try to argue, just try to be a little more understanding of other peoples' view points in future. Understood, please reread my edited post, as i have added more "obvious" reason in there. but lets stay off religion and more on the subject at hand ID -------------------------------------------
Fenderson Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:10:00 - [14] Originally by: Gaunty Funnily enough i was watching a show on this last night. Something like 4 out of every 10 Americans and UK residents believe in Creationism which totally shocked me tbh. There were people saying they genuinely believed the Earth is only 6000 years old. The creationists stated aim was also on the show and during the interview their spokesperson said they wanted science to become friendly and compatible with Christianity. Basically, false science. i would not be surprised if that was correct for the UK and US combined, but i have seen other statistics that suggest that the US alone accounts for most of that (by a lot) i blame this on early US history... basically England sent over all their religious nutcases to colonize the new world (they were called "pilgrims" and "puritans") and those people had lots and lots of kids that eventually became the ******** half of the US population. meanwhile, England managed to almost completely rid itself of religious crazies. thanks alot, guys. DO YOU PLAY POKER???? Join ingame channels "DOA Poker" and "Eve Online Hold'em"
Shanzem The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:18:00 - [15] Edited by: Shanzem on 27/03/2008 20:20:09 Originally by: Fenderson Originally by: Gaunty Funnily enough i was watching a show on this last night. Something like 4 out of every 10 Americans and UK residents believe in Creationism which totally shocked me tbh. There were people saying they genuinely believed the Earth is only 6000 years old. The creationists stated aim was also on the show and during the interview their spokesperson said they wanted science to become friendly and compatible with Christianity. Basically, false science. i would not be surprised if that was correct for the UK and US combined, but i have seen other statistics that suggest that the US alone accounts for most of that (by a lot i blame this on early US history... basically England sent over all their religious nutcases to colonize the new world (they were called "pilgrims" and "puritans") and those people had lots and lots of kids that eventually became the ******** half of the US population. meanwhile, England managed to almost completely rid itself of religious crazies. thanks alot, guys. yeah and look how both country's turned out - remind me to find a nice Asian girl -------------------------------------------
Joseph 9 Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:27:00 - [16] Edited by: Joseph 9 on 27/03/2008 20:27:21 Yeah, cause the Asians aren't as screwed up as us Europeans and Americans.. no siree! (See the Japanese and South Koreans as examples in point) Anyway the UK has got rid of the religious and the convicts, now all we need to do is convince the Telephone Sanitizers, Insurance Salesmen, and Public Relations Executives to leave and we'll be living in paradise...
Duvida The Phalanx Expeditionary Conglomerate Blue Sky Consortium	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:34:00 - [17] All a god has to be, to be a god to us, is sufficiently more advanced than we are. There are physics rules which we haven't learned yet. Originally by: Shanzem Edited by: Shanzem on 27/03/2008 20:04:26 Edited by: Shanzem on 27/03/2008 19:56:20 Edited by: Shanzem on 27/03/2008 19:36:02 Originally by: Joseph 9 Originally by: Gaunty Funnily enough i was watching a show on this last night. Something like 4 out of every 10 Americans and UK residents believe in Creationism which totally shocked me tbh. There were people saying they genuinely believed the Earth is only 6000 years old. The creationists stated aim was also on the show and during the interview their spokesperson said they wanted science to become friendly and compatible with Christianity. Basically, false science. Those statistics sound wrong to me Gaunty, at the very least they're conflated. US belief in creationism is up around 50% iirc, whilst in the UK it's closer to 10%, 10% too high to be honest, and with the encroachment of rich creationists into Religious and Academy Schools its a moving in a worrying direction, but the US has a far bigger problem than Europe at the moment. hehe Ideocracy, its going to boil down to a Theocracy in the end, its incredible but its like there is a whole culture hell bent on taking this world back to the dark gloomy crap its came from. i am not going to go as far as i hate religion, but it has no right, to class its self as a science (ID), or to actually infringe upon others there beliefs through mass media OR academic means. Its incredible.. i am astounded. Quantum mechanics cannot even work or have been discovered if there was a god, Quantum mechanics tells us that a physical observer, makes a atom choose between physical states and its available options, but without an observer all choices or none can be given. a god of any kind would break they very fundamental law of quantum mechanics and we would not have Quantum computers wiki QUT COMP and linky for Quantum mechanics
Duvida The Phalanx Expeditionary Conglomerate Blue Sky Consortium	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:36:00 - [18] Originally by: Joseph 9 Edited by: Joseph 9 on 27/03/2008 20:27:21 Yeah, cause the Asians aren't as screwed up as us Europeans and Americans.. no siree! (See the Japanese and South Koreans as examples in point) Anyway the UK has got rid of the religious and the convicts, now all we need to do is convince the Telephone Sanitizers, Insurance Salesmen, and Public Relations Executives to leave and we'll be living in paradise... Don't do that YET!!! I'm running missions for a Public Relations guy right now...
Shanzem The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.03.27 20:44:00 - [19] Originally by: Joseph 9 Edited by: Joseph 9 on 27/03/2008 20:27:21 Yeah, cause the Asians aren't as screwed up as us Europeans and Americans.. no siree! (See the Japanese and South Koreans as examples in point) Anyway the UK has got rid of the religious and the convicts, now all we need to do is convince the Telephone Sanitizers, Insurance Salesmen, and Public Relations Executives to leave and we'll be living in paradise... x100 -------------------------------------------
Ixianus Terracor	Posted - 2008.03.28 09:32:00 - [20] Edited by: Ixianus on 28/03/2008 09:33:48 Link to Promo. Trailer for Expelled. Wow, this "documentary" looks incredibly stupid, not beyond other such that I have seen on networks like TBN though. Edit: Ahh, no wonder the comments are so stupid. They're being screened. "Awaiting approval."
Mohia Matara The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency	Posted - 2008.03.28 10:50:00 - [21] Gotta say that he has a point about how even mentioning Darwinism results in such a bad backlash. I for one believe in Darwinism, I mean if god did exist than why does he not manifest himself in physical form (3 miles tall with a lot of light .etc) because I think that we'd all pretty much agree that he exists and thus the world will probably go peaceful very quickly, either that or we'd try and take him out with a first strike. ___________________ I'm annoying
ry ry StateCorp Insurgency	Posted - 2008.03.28 11:24:00 - [22] i emailed Stuart Blessman. you all should too, he loves the attention. [email protected]
Gunther Gansefus Kingsize Mining Ltd	Posted - 2008.03.28 12:15:00 - [23]
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.03.28 13:10:00 - [24] Originally by: Fenderson Originally by: Gaunty Funnily enough i was watching a show on this last night. Something like 4 out of every 10 Americans and UK residents believe in Creationism which totally shocked me tbh. There were people saying they genuinely believed the Earth is only 6000 years old. The creationists stated aim was also on the show and during the interview their spokesperson said they wanted science to become friendly and compatible with Christianity. Basically, false science. i would not be surprised if that was correct for the UK and US combined, but i have seen other statistics that suggest that the US alone accounts for most of that (by a lot) i blame this on early US history... basically England sent over all their religious nutcases to colonize the new world (they were called "pilgrims" and "puritans") and those people had lots and lots of kids that eventually became the ******** half of the US population. meanwhile, England managed to almost completely rid itself of religious crazies. thanks alot, guys. shuffles feet looks away Yeah... sorry 'bout that. But we're cool, right? CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.03.28 13:11:00 - [25] Originally by: Mohia Matara Gotta say that he has a point about how even mentioning Darwinism results in such a bad backlash. I for one believe in Darwinism, I mean if god did exist than why does he not manifest himself in physical form (3 miles tall with a lot of light .etc) because I think that we'd all pretty much agree that he exists and thus the world will probably go peaceful very quickly, either that or we'd try and take him out with a first strike. I like the Greek gods a lot better. They did the kind of stuff I'd do if I was a god. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.03.28 13:13:00 - [26] Originally by: Malcanis shuffles feet looks away Yeah... sorry 'bout that. But we're cool, right? It's okay, you guys were responsible for Monty Python. We'll forgive you. ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.79.3 (Updated 3/24)
Havok Dryke Golden Gavel Enterprises The Cooperative	Posted - 2008.03.28 18:16:00 - [27] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Fenderson Originally by: Gaunty Funnily enough i was watching a show on this last night. Something like 4 out of every 10 Americans and UK residents believe in Creationism which totally shocked me tbh. There were people saying they genuinely believed the Earth is only 6000 years old. The creationists stated aim was also on the show and during the interview their spokesperson said they wanted science to become friendly and compatible with Christianity. Basically, false science. i would not be surprised if that was correct for the UK and US combined, but i have seen other statistics that suggest that the US alone accounts for most of that (by a lot) i blame this on early US history... basically England sent over all their religious nutcases to colonize the new world (they were called "pilgrims" and "puritans") and those people had lots and lots of kids that eventually became the ******** half of the US population. meanwhile, England managed to almost completely rid itself of religious crazies. thanks alot, guys. shuffles feet looks away Yeah... sorry 'bout that. But we're cool, right? Hey, it's what I would do. -------------------------------------- EVE is a cold, harsh world, filled with people that would kill you without a second thought. The forums are even worse.
Marcus TheMartin Tuxedo.	Posted - 2008.03.28 18:33:00 - [28] Originally by: Gaunty Funnily enough i was watching a show on this last night. Something like 4 out of every 10 Americans and UK residents believe in Creationism which totally shocked me tbh. There were people saying they genuinely believed the Earth is only 6000 years old. The creationists stated aim was also on the show and during the interview their spokesperson said they wanted science to become friendly and compatible with Christianity. Basically, false science. A country that was formed on the ideals of religious freedom (mostly christians) hence Christian heritage that and the 602 pages of the bible that includes page 1 the authors notes page 602 the credits, pages 2-601 on why you are going to burn real good.
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2008.03.28 18:55:00 - [29] don't get it ________________________ Comming back June 5th...
Meiyang Lee Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.03.28 18:58:00 - [30] Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 28/03/2008 18:59:58 Now i'm a biologist so i'd say my standpoint on the matter is pretty clear. But how, while sifting out people from the queue did they miss Prof. Dawkins, he has to be quite a bit more famous than the author of this blog. That and how serious these people take this is what stunned me most. If they want ID to be considered a science then let them prove it, if you can give me undeniable evidence that you are correct (or atleast a theory well-constructed enough to be plausible) then, and only then should ID even be considered getting added to scientific canon.

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