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Drizit
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Posted - 2008.03.27 19:45:00 -
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If you want isk, building T1 ships is not the way to go unless you find an area where the demand allows you to up the price a bit.
Even if you mine the ore yourself, the time spent mining as well as cost of building it has to be calculated into the profit margin. Shipbuilding is so cutthroat now that the market price of most battleships have dropped to almost below their ore value. Unless you have excellent skills to reduce waste and time to build it, I'd say go for something smaller like a cruiser or BC. New players are often losing them in missions and therefore they sell quite quickly and their price is more stable.
Having said all that, I'd do it just for the sheer hell of saying "I build battleships" to the girls I meet in the nightclub.  At least they can't accuse of lying when they find out 
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Drizit
FREEDOM FIRST
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Posted - 2008.03.27 21:08:00 -
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 Originally by: Asestorian
Yeah but the point is that they could be making more money just selling the minerals they used to make those ships in the first place 
The real point is whether you play this game for fun or to be a tycoon. If your aim is to be a tycoon, you'd be better off playing in RL and making RL money.
I have built and sold loads of stuff for less than mineral prices. However, I mine my own minerals so it's up to me if I want to take a hit on the selling price, I still make isk but not as much as if I'd sold the minerals.
At the end of the day, it's just a game and it's not as if your mortgage is going to be unpaid if you choose to lose isk occasionally.
I could do the math and amass billions of isk. To what purpose? So I can have 16 Freighters? Or maybe an officer fitted CNR for every day of the week? It really takes the fun out of the game to know you have the isk to buy anything you want and never have to strive to obtain it. Half the fun is in earning the isk to buy what you want but when you have it, you can relax and take a loss now and then. You know that when the next patch comes out, you'll have more to have fun striving for and not just buy it cos it's there.
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Drizit
FREEDOM FIRST
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Posted - 2008.04.08 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Letouk Mernel
That's how people figure out if anything is profitable. "Do I spend the next hour hauling for that 1 million ISK courier contract, or do I spend the next hour mining in my cruiser at 5 million per hour?" The contract isn't worth it.
Experience counts for a lot more than isk. Those courier contracts may give you the knowledge of the map enough to see another very profitable courier contract.
The same way that building and selling items gives you a broader view of the market and where you can get the best prices. This knowledge has led me to lucrative trading runs on occasion.
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Drizit
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Posted - 2008.04.08 18:51:00 -
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Edited by: Drizit on 08/04/2008 18:52:46
Originally by: Ulstan
I don't mind myself if people do that, just a lot of them do it based on completely flawed understandings of economics.
A lot of people play this game to have fun, not to earn an economics degree.
If my wallet is fatter after selling a Raven (for example), than it was before I started mining for the minerals to build it, I have made a profit as far as I'm concerned. All this time=isk and would selling minerals on the market get me more turns a game into a tedious job. Also, many have not thought that selling=time and if time=isk, your minerals are worth less anyway. Ravens sell pretty quick but selling minerals takes more time, especially those that can be mined locally. If I can get 90mil in my wallet in two or three days selling a raven, why would I want to wait a month or more to sell the minerals for 97mil?
If you take into consideration transporting the minerals to fill buy orders, that takes time as well. Similarly devaluing the profit margin.
In the time it takes to work out which is going to return the larger profit, you could have probably built and sold the Raven anyway.
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