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Quelque Chose
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Posted - 2008.03.28 05:35:00 -
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 Originally by: AndrewRyan
This is the internet gods trying to give you a hint, stop crap posting.
You first.
Also I think this forum is actually pretty good considering it's made of chewing gum and bailing wire.
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Posted - 2008.03.28 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: OwlManAtt
1. Moderators (given|use) the ability to delete posts instead of replacing the body with 'Inappropriate content cleared by XXX'.
2. Moderators (given|use) the ability to delete entire threads classified as spam instead of locking them.
Have you ever moderated a forum? If not, here's some sage advice: NEVER DELETE.
Deleting just makes posters freak out and causes all kinds of unnecessary headaches; there are only so many "Hey ******* where did my post go?" posts you can read before you want to run amok with an axe. The system here of sanitizing offensive posts and letting locked threads slip gracefully off the front page is one of the most sensible I've ever seen and results in a really enjoyable dearth of moderator flames. The mods here are right on the money in this case IMO.
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Posted - 2008.03.28 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: OwlManAtt
I have moderated forums and written forum software.
I understand perfectly well where you're coming from. But do you regularly read CAOD? People constantly post trollthreads and spam knowing perfectly well that they shouldn't be making posts like that. They get locked after a few minutes. Some nights there can be five or six locked, cleared, and utterly useless threads on the front page - that's a significant number of them.
I read CAOD all the time. I find it quite entertaining in the same way I enjoy going to the zoo. I don't think deleting troll threads is much of an answer there though, since the nature of the forum means that 95-99% of posts will be disingenuous drivel no matter what you do and in a disinformation- rich environment like that it's sometimes difficult to distinguish between "useful" posts and out- and- out **** stirring. Separating the wheat from the chaff in CAOD seems like it wouldn't be something worth attempting.
That said though I don't envy the guy who has to ride herd on that place. One can only hope he finds it as amusing as I do.
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Besides, the "where did my post go!?!" posts can be countered very easily with another software enhancement: show the deleted post to the poster with some (very obvious) indication that it was deleted, and allow the deleting moderator to specify a reason.
The best compromise solution I've seen on that is the one where you move threads whose services are no longer required to a locked forum with a name like "thread jail" or whatever. People know to check there and everybody can see what happened and why -- and inevitably, more people will want to know than just the offender(s). Not only does it provide a record but it helps broadcast the rules and moderation MO to the entire forum.
At any rate, transparency in moderation tends to be a lot better in the long run than the gestapo- style knock on the door in the wee hours because it provides fewer opportunities to this guy and his multifarious wannabes. Doubly true if your forum is the frontend for a business... or at least that's what my experiences have told me. YMMV, but the only real complaint I can come up with about the moderation here is that it's occasionally lazy (not much of a gripe, really).
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