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Orvy
Hairy Beary Foods
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Posted - 2008.03.28 20:05:00 -
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Suggestion:
Make projectiles use cap and at the same time make artilleries competitive with rails/lasers in terms of DPS. This should allow to fix Vargur since there won't be any reason to keep its grid nerfed to hell and at the same time it will shut up all the whiners who think that 'projectiles should suck since they use no cap'.
Please discuss, but I would like to ask only those people to comment who actually fly matari ships.
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Chris Liath
SUBLIME L.L.C.
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.28 20:08:00 -
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You know, there's really a reason an MP5 does not need a battery to work...
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp
INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.03.28 20:17:00 -
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Projectiles are fine as is. If its not broke..... 
 Originally by: CCP Oveur
...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
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cpt Gray
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.03.28 20:19:00 -
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Does an MP5 have massive motors to aim the gun?
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Vadimik
Misty Weave
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Posted - 2008.03.28 20:21:00 -
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Edited by: Vadimik on 28/03/2008 20:21:44
Originally by: cpt Gray
Does an MP5 have massive motors to aim the gun?
Do hybrid or energy turrets eat cap for aiming ? Do ships in EvE eat cap for moving in space ?
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Twin blade
The Triangle
Exa Nation
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Posted - 2008.03.28 20:21:00 -
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If they use cap they need a fairly big boost to dps.
There is NO reason to make them use cap AC do poor damage if they lack a duel bonus and even with a ship with ROF+Dmg there dps is abit lower than the other weapons.
Arty just need a boost to clip size and a SMALL Rof bonus other than that there is no reason to touch the guns at all.
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Trevor Warps
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.03.28 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: cpt Gray
Does an MP5 have massive motors to aim the gun?
Do your ship stop moving when you are neuted to 0 ? Does your shield stops recharging ?
Eve = game != reality
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cpt Gray
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.03.28 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Vadimik
Edited by: Vadimik on 28/03/2008 20:21:44
Originally by: cpt Gray
Does an MP5 have massive motors to aim the gun?
Do hybrid or energy turrets eat cap for aiming ? Do ships in EvE eat cap for moving in space ?
He used real world logic so i used a little logic, even though eve uses little logic. The point im trying to make ist that im bored at work
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Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.28 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Orvy
Suggestion:
Make projectiles use cap and at the same time make artilleries competitive with rails/lasers in terms of DPS. This should allow to fix Vargur since there won't be any reason to keep its grid nerfed to hell and at the same time it will shut up all the whiners who think that 'projectiles should suck since they use no cap'.
Please discuss, but I would like to ask only those people to comment who actually fly matari ships.
No. There's no reason to make all the races the same. Each race should and does have a flavor. This is the Minmatar flavor.
There's lots of things wrong with projectiles, and "no capacitor" goes only a very short way to fixing it.
Besides, the only people who use the "no capacitor" line are Amarrians who neglected to train cap skills. 
-Liang
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Corstaad
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.03.28 20:55:00 -
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Hehe in another thread I was angry and ranted that tomorrow someone would start a nerf projectiles thread. Thanks, what are we going to whine about tomorrow now ?
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Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.28 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Corstaad
Hehe in another thread I was angry and ranted that tomorrow someone would start a nerf projectiles thread. Thanks, what are we going to whine about tomorrow now?
Money goes to the Ishtar or the Vaga.
-Liang
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Polcor Rodal
Clearspace Operations
Carpe Diem.
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Posted - 2008.03.28 21:46:00 -
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Edited by: Polcor Rodal on 28/03/2008 21:48:36
Hehe, the used to need cap some 2 years ago or so. CCP removed this
for adding more flavor and for the dreaded "balancing".
Pol
p.s.
And yes, i also think there is a reason an MP5 dont need batteries, but
the laserpointer does, so lets make targetpainters drain the cap. They
are minmatars at least 
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Asestorian
Domination.
Scorched Earth.
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Posted - 2008.03.28 21:49:00 -
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Edited by: Asestorian on 28/03/2008 21:49:28
They did used to use cap, and then they stopped using cap, but now they need to use cap again?
I'm not entirely convinced that they need changing much anyway, especially not for a single ship. You can't change everything about a weapon system for just one ship. That ship needs to be changed in some way instead.
Also, anyone who says "projectiles should suck since they use no cap" is a moron. I'm not convinced that projectiles suck anyway.
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves
Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.28 23:11:00 -
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Projectiles as a whole should not use cap. But maybe arties should. They don't really benefit much from not using cap, seeing how arty ships don't have much need (or fitting) for massive tanks like AC ships do. But they do suffer a lot from the poor dps, which is further emphasized by the abysmal clip size and the prenerfed T1 ammo.
So making arties use some cap in return for improved performance seems quite reasonable to me.
There is no 'n' in turret
There is no 'r' in faction
There is no 'a' in Scorpion
There is no 'e' in Caldari
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Feilamya
Pelennor Swarm
Scorched Earth.
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Posted - 2008.03.28 23:22:00 -
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/signed
make lasers do explosive damage
make projectiles use cap
make pigs fly and hell freeze over
Why not do it the Blizzard way and make all guns the same, except they look different and have different names, just to please the roleplayers?
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arbalesttom
Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.28 23:28:00 -
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Edited by: arbalesttom on 28/03/2008 23:29:29
Originally by: Orvy
Suggestion:
Make projectiles use cap and at the same time make artilleries competitive with rails/lasers in terms of DPS. This should allow to fix Vargur since there won't be any reason to keep its grid nerfed to hell and at the same time it will shut up all the whiners who think that 'projectiles should suck since they use no cap'.
Please discuss, but I would like to ask only those people to comment who actually fly matari ships.
Ok, since you made a comparisson with ac/arty versus laser, /me think your jonny jojo's new alt...
DONT MAKE ME REPORT THIS THREAD
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
That is a JoJo, a forum troll used by Amarr whiners.
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Landrassa
Repo Industries
R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.03.29 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: cpt Gray
Does an MP5 have massive motors to aim the gun?
Nope, it has a human arm moving it around, just like projectile weapons have a bunch of sweaty guys wearing sunglasses doing the hard work. Why do you think the Amarr enjoy enslaving the Matar so much? 
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Dristra
Shadows of the Dead
Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2008.03.29 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Landrassa
Originally by: cpt Gray
Does an MP5 have massive motors to aim the gun?
Nope, it has a human arm moving it around, just like projectile weapons have a bunch of sweaty guys wearing sunglasses doing the hard work. Why do you think the Amarr enjoy enslaving the Matar so much?
Its engines doing the dirty work, and the abysmally low amount of energy required from the powercore for that is nothing compared to: running the engines that manage to push the ship through oily eve space, filling the capacitor, AND passivly recharging the shields
Support the introduction of well thought out Amarr solutions!
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State OFMInd
Hedion University
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Posted - 2008.03.29 01:01:00 -
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Make every gun
Every Ship
Every Mod
The same
Then truly, we will have achieved balance.
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AstroPhobic
STK Scientific
Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.03.29 05:09:00 -
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Edited by: AstroPhobic on 29/03/2008 05:09:58
Originally by: Orvy
Suggestion:
Make projectiles use cap and at the same time make artilleries competitive with rails/lasers in terms of DPS. This should allow to fix Vargur since there won't be any reason to keep its grid nerfed to hell and at the same time it will shut up all the whiners who think that 'projectiles should suck since they use no cap'.
Please discuss, but I would like to ask only those people to comment who actually fly matari ships.
Suggestion:
Make lasers use ammo and at the same time make their capacitor in line with rails in terms of cap usage. This should allow to fix the Abaddon since there won't be any reason to fit 5 cap mods just to fire the guns, and at the same time it will shut up all the whiners who think that 'amarr should suck since they use no ammo'.
Please discuss, but I would like to ask only those people to comment who actually fly amarr ships.
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Ruah Piskonit
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.03.29 07:14:00 -
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Originally by: Feilamya
/signed
make lasers do explosive damage
make projectiles use cap
make pigs fly and hell freeze over
Why not do it the Blizzard way and make all guns the same, except they look different and have different names, just to please the roleplayers?
What does any of this have to do with 'roleplayers'. . .
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Xonkra
ArcadiaCorp Marines
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Posted - 2008.03.29 09:47:00 -
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Edited by: Xonkra on 29/03/2008 09:47:15
Originally by: Feilamya
/signed
make lasers do explosive damage
make projectiles use cap
make pigs fly and hell freeze over
Why not do it the Blizzard way and make all guns the same, except they look different and have different names, just to please the roleplayers?
but...what does this have to do with an MP5?
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Cpt Cosmic
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Posted - 2008.03.29 09:58:00 -
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give the players brain more cpu so they can already think and make good setups instead of whining in forums
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Bloody Puppy
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Posted - 2008.03.29 10:01:00 -
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Edited by: Bloody Puppy on 29/03/2008 10:04:02
Originally by: Orvy
Suggestion:
Make projectiles use cap and at the same time make artilleries competitive with rails/lasers in terms of DPS. This should allow to fix Vargur since there won't be any reason to keep its grid nerfed to hell and at the same time it will shut up all the whiners who think that 'projectiles should suck since they use no cap'.
Please discuss, but I would like to ask only those people to comment who actually fly matari ships.
stop
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lmao
rolf rolf rolf
EDIT: ty m8, i needet that lol  , sorry for not being serious but.... you know the mp5 story...
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Vanessa Vale
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Posted - 2008.03.29 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Orvy
Please discuss, but I would like to ask only those people to comment who actually fly matari ships.
Cap usage in exchange of good dps, better tracking and range? Where do I sign? Oh, I'd want a slight boost to the cap of our ships and no ammo consumption too of course.
Perhaps that'd help get rid this feeling of having wasted all those million skillpoints in projectiles for crappy weapons on crappy ships....
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.03.29 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Orvy
Suggestion:
Make projectiles use cap and at the same time make artilleries competitive with rails/lasers in terms of DPS. This should allow to fix Vargur since there won't be any reason to keep its grid nerfed to hell and at the same time it will shut up all the whiners who think that 'projectiles should suck since they use no cap'.
Please discuss, but I would like to ask only those people to comment who actually fly matari ships.
why do ppl constantly want to make all the Races the same....
they are different... thats what makes this game fun.
i can use hybrids, projectile and lasers myself and i know the differences. i wouldnt want them to be the same.. why the hell did i train them all if they where the same
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Lt Angus
Wicked Crew
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Posted - 2008.03.29 11:15:00 -
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Reverse the optimal and falloff and you have a deal
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Boma Airaken
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Posted - 2008.03.29 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Landrassa
Originally by: cpt Gray
Does an MP5 have massive motors to aim the gun?
Nope, it has a human arm moving it around, just like projectile weapons have a bunch of sweaty guys wearing sunglasses doing the hard work. Why do you think the Amarr enjoy enslaving the Matar so much?
Will you have my babies so that they can post as awesomely as you do? This made my day.
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Lorz0r
You're Doing It Wrong
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Posted - 2008.03.29 12:22:00 -
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If they started using cap they would need a boost to dps/rof and that would just turn them into blasters with a big falloff. no
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