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Delnarai Teddy Bear Mining Corperation	Posted - 2008.03.28 21:29:00 - [1] A small change would be all that is required to make the game fair for all. Eliminate Warp locking or scrambling. Those that love PVP can stand toe to toe and slug it out ship to ship and fleet to fleet. Those that just love to mine and manufacture can now use low space giving them a fair chance to escape when jumped by 3 and more ships. Mining barges cannot defend against more than 2 ships warp locking them at the same time. Resulting in certain death and an unfair, never fun gaming experience. Sure when in a war and jumped by 20 ships you are going to die, but to die and not be able to run and even fight back. NOT GOOD. Pirate players and bullies should have to work for their kills, not just warp lock and demand isk or just kill unarmed ships because they can.
Srenim Orcam Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.03.28 21:30:00 - [2] I give this troll post a 2/10.
Kanadesh Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.03.28 21:32:00 - [3] They worked for their kills.. by finding your barge and bothering to even blow it up. You didn't work for your defense by checking local or having protection from pirates.
Asestorian Domination. Scorched Earth.	Posted - 2008.03.28 21:36:00 - [4] PvPers rarely compete in duels. People don't want fair fights, they want kills; they want to win. --- MOZO
Liang Nuren Black Sea Industries Insurgency	Posted - 2008.03.28 21:39:00 - [5] Originally by: Asestorian PvPers rarely compete in duels. People don't want fair fights, they want kills; they want to win. Heh, yeah. I admit it. I play Eve for the glory of teamwork and a kill well executed. It's the same reason I used to play competitive counter-strike: Teamwork. -Liang -- Naturally, I do not in any way speak for my corp or alliance.
Delnarai Teddy Bear Mining Corperation	Posted - 2008.03.28 21:56:00 - [6] Kanedesh, mining barges don't have defenses, (a few drones) also you can check all you want in local, it takes 15 minutes or longer to mine a ship full of ore. Thats a long time for someone to find you. then you get to be locked and sit and watch your ship blow up. Warp scrambling/locking was never a good idea. Maybe they should just make PVP players pay 10,000000.00isk a day and they have the right to declare war on only one corp for that day killing any and all ships in that corp, wars must be by mutual agreement and no one else can be attacked
Asestorian Domination. Scorched Earth.	Posted - 2008.03.28 21:59:00 - [7] Hi, Delnarai. Welcome to EVE, a PvP game, where people are - shockingly - allowed to PvP as much as they like. --- Quote: Welcome to EVE, a PvP game, where people are - shockingly - allowed to PvP as much as they like.
doctorstupid2 Blood Corsair's Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.03.28 21:59:00 - [8] Originally by: Delnarai Kanedesh, mining barges don't have defenses, (a few drones) also you can check all you want in local, it takes 15 minutes or longer to mine a ship full of ore. Thats a long time for someone to find you. then you get to be locked and sit and watch your ship blow up. Warp scrambling/locking was never a good idea. Maybe they should just make PVP players pay 10,000000.00isk a day and they have the right to declare war on only one corp for that day killing any and all ships in that corp, wars must be by mutual agreement and no one else can be attacked you're just full of dumb ideas today, aren't you? Deadspace2 \| Deadspace \| Fun in FAT-
Zeba Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.03.28 22:00:00 - [9] Delnarai, lol no. --------------------- Q: WTF! Why?! A: Because I can. ---------------------
Tamia Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.03.28 22:04:00 - [10] /facepalm Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
SoftRevolution Complicity.	Posted - 2008.03.28 22:06:00 - [11] Originally by: Delnarai A small change would be all that is required to make the game fair for all. Eliminate Warp locking or scrambling. Those that love PVP can stand toe to toe and slug it out ship to ship and fleet to fleet. Those that just love to mine and manufacture can now use low space giving them a fair chance to escape when jumped by 3 and more ships. Mining barges cannot defend against more than 2 ships warp locking them at the same time. Resulting in certain death and an unfair, never fun gaming experience. Sure when in a war and jumped by 20 ships you are going to die, but to die and not be able to run and even fight back. NOT GOOD. Pirate players and bullies should have to work for their kills, not just warp lock and demand isk or just kill unarmed ships because they can. How I troll eve-o forums? EVE RELATED CONTENT
Marcus TheMartin Tuxedo.	Posted - 2008.03.28 22:13:00 - [12] /facebutt
Nocturnal Avenger Black Plague. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.28 22:53:00 - [13] Originally by: Srenim Orcam I give this troll post a 2/10. You're generous. 1/10 - Carebear Pirate -
Mavrickk Zeus Even Runs Off	Posted - 2008.03.28 22:58:00 - [14] Originally by: Asestorian Hi, Delnarai. Welcome to EVE, a PvP game, where people are - shockingly - allowed to PvP as much as they like. First off EVE is not strictly a PvP game like alot claim. That being said There is nothing wrong with warp disruptors, use warp core stablizers. The only way there would be a problem is if there were no defense.
Marcus TheMartin Tuxedo.	Posted - 2008.03.28 23:03:00 - [15] Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger Originally by: Srenim Orcam I give this troll post a 2/10. You're generous. 1/10 you're just throwing away ratings 0/10 Oh shi-
Tyria Sharken TalCorp Enterprises Einherjar Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.28 23:32:00 - [16] Delete Concord, Make ALL systems 0.0 and then walk away. There, EvE is now fair to everyone. --------------------------------------------- "Only two great species on this planet take part in massive, organized warfare. Men, and ants."
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.03.28 23:33:00 - [17] Originally by: Tyria Sharken Delete Concord, Make ALL systems 0.0 and then walk away. There, EvE is now fair to everyone. OK! CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Larkonis Trassler Neo Spartans	Posted - 2008.03.29 00:17:00 - [18] Obvious troll is obvious ------------
Serene Uylear State War Academy	Posted - 2008.03.29 02:44:00 - [19] how to make it fair? absurd! it already is fair. 'its not fair, its not fair! wahhhh wahhhh' + = Uylear
Larg Kellein Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:34:00 - [20] OP, I award you no points, and may your choice of deity have mercy on your soul.
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:38:00 - [21] Edited by: techzer0 on 29/03/2008 11:41:05 Originally by: Delnarai Kanedesh, mining barges don't have defenses, (a few drones) also you can check all you want in local, it takes 15 minutes or longer to mine a ship full of ore. Thats a long time for someone to find you. then you get to be locked and sit and watch your ship blow up. Warp scrambling/locking was never a good idea. Maybe they should just make PVP players pay 10,000000.00isk a day and they have the right to declare war on only one corp for that day killing any and all ships in that corp, wars must be by mutual agreement and no one else can be attacked You were mining in a system that is known for being gate camped, has an average of 5 to 10 -10.0 players in it at all times, and a lowsec pocket with 3-4 good sized pirate corps. That was my alt that pointed you, and you got away because you had stabs I didn't have more than one scram fit to my ship. Should have tried harder to catch you ------------ Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:40:00 - [22] Edited by: techzer0 on 29/03/2008 11:40:38 Edited by: techzer0 on 29/03/2008 11:40:19 Originally by: Marcus TheMartin Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger Originally by: Srenim Orcam I give this troll post a 2/10. You're generous. 1/10 you're just throwing away ratings 0/10 Oh shi- It's not a troll is what's funneh He's serious, I pointed him with my alt... a hulk in Ihakana, within scan range of the gate that is almost always camped was too hard to pass up. Too bad he had stabs ------------ Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
Solomunio Kzenig	Posted - 2008.03.29 12:44:00 - [23] RL life is not fair, why should EVE, which is designed to be harsh and unforgiving be fair? -10/10.
Jin Gle	Posted - 2008.03.29 12:57:00 - [24] who wants a fair game anyway. Space Lion
Bellum Eternus	Posted - 2008.03.29 13:13:00 - [25] Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger Originally by: Srenim Orcam I give this troll post a 2/10. You're generous. 1/10 You guys are waaay too nice. 0/10. Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y I I
Gideon Kross Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.03.29 13:20:00 - [26] Originally by: Delnarai A small change would be all that is required to make the game fair for all. Eliminate Warp locking or scrambling. Those that love PVP can stand toe to toe and slug it out ship to ship and fleet to fleet. Those that just love to mine and manufacture can now use low space giving them a fair chance to escape when jumped by 3 and more ships. Mining barges cannot defend against more than 2 ships warp locking them at the same time. Resulting in certain death and an unfair, never fun gaming experience. Sure when in a war and jumped by 20 ships you are going to die, but to die and not be able to run and even fight back. NOT GOOD. Pirate players and bullies should have to work for their kills, not just warp lock and demand isk or just kill unarmed ships because they can. I have to disagree... Targeting/Warp Jammers, and Webbers are in the game to serve this specific function. Do I like being Jammed & Webbed? ... No. Do I accept it as a valid tactic, and necessary game mechanic? ... Absolutely. The mechanic, and tactic will not change... Accept it as a Fact of Life in EVE. The Gank Squad / Ransomer should get thier shot. ... Not saying that the consequences of thier actions should'nt be "adjusted" a bit, perticularly in Empire High-Sec... But they should still have the opportunity to Attempt it. Delnarai, If you're Solo Mining in Low-Sec... You're basicly giving them an engraved invitation to Pop You... Especialy if you're not prepared, i.e. No Armed Escort, or AFK Mining (Blatant Foolish Optimism)... You may not like it, but it's the risk you accepted when you went into territory you knew very well was even Less Safe than High-Sec is allegedly supposed to be. Sorry to hear about your loss... Well... Not Really Sorry, but I do hope you've learned an important lesson from the mistake. Better luck next time. Be Alert. The Galaxy Needs More Lerts. I was contemplating the immortal words of Socrates; Who said '... I Drank What?!'
Armoured C Globaltech Industries Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2008.03.29 13:28:00 - [27] fit as many stabs as you like :) the warp disruption script make it more the funnier :)
Icy Fox	Posted - 2008.03.29 13:39:00 - [28] Originally by: Delnarai A small change would be all that is required to make the game fair for all. Eliminate Warp locking or scrambling. Those that love PVP can stand toe to toe and slug it out ship to ship and fleet to fleet. Those that just love to mine and manufacture can now use low space giving them a fair chance to escape when jumped by 3 and more ships. Mining barges cannot defend against more than 2 ships warp locking them at the same time. Resulting in certain death and an unfair, never fun gaming experience. Sure when in a war and jumped by 20 ships you are going to die, but to die and not be able to run and even fight back. NOT GOOD. Pirate players and bullies should have to work for their kills, not just warp lock and demand isk or just kill unarmed ships because they can. there is an excellent strat i want to share with you on how to not lose your ship to other players. DONT UNDOCK.
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.03.29 14:50:00 - [29] Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger Originally by: Srenim Orcam I give this troll post a 2/10. You're generous. 1/10 You guys are waaay too nice. 0/10. Telling you, it's not a troll. rofl. I made someone cry on the forums... win! ------------ Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
Shar'Tuk TheHated	Posted - 2008.03.29 15:14:00 - [30] Go away, thanks! DRINK RUM It fights scurvy & boosts morale! THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES!

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