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ry ry
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Posted - 2008.03.31 09:48:00 -
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Aliens > Predator > Alien > Alien 3 > AVP > Predator 2 > AVP2 > Alien Resurrection.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
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Posted - 2008.03.31 10:03:00 -
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 Originally by: ry ry
Aliens > Predator > Alien > Alien 3 > AVP > Predator 2 > AVP2 > Alien Resurrection.
I don't get it... is that your list of favorites in order? If so, AvP is better than Predator 2?
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Erotic Irony
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Posted - 2008.03.31 10:05:00 -
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now val kilmer in the salton sea, holy **** he's the man
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ry ry
StateCorp
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.31 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: ry ry
Aliens > Predator > Alien > Alien 3 > AVP > Predator 2 > AVP2 > Alien Resurrection.
I don't get it... is that your list of favorites in order? If so, AvP is better than Predator 2?
my favorites??1!?!forwardslash?! those are facts.
and yeah, predator 2 was a load of rubbish.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.31 10:15:00 -
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Better than AvP 
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ry ry
StateCorp
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.31 10:21:00 -
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Mmmm.. they're both rubbish, and both much better than AVP2.
which one is more rubbish is debatable, or at least it would be if it wasn't like choosing which STI you'd rather contract.
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CCP Atropos
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Posted - 2008.03.31 10:43:00 -
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Pfft.
Comics > Games > Movies
Then: Aliens > Predator > Alien 3 > Alien > Predator 2 > AVP 2 > AVP > Alien Resurrection
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ry ry
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Posted - 2008.03.31 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atropos
Alien 3 > Alien
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Ryan Scouse'UK
omen.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.31 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atropos
Pfft.
Comics > Games > Movies
Then: Aliens > Predator > Alien 3 > Alien > Predator 2 > AVP 2 > AVP > Alien Resurrection
wait a second why does no1 like Alien Resurrection I thought that was ok.. much better then alien 1...
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J'Mkarr Soban
Proxenetae Invicti
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Posted - 2008.03.31 14:34:00 -
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If you take the whole story series over the long term, I like them all. The special edition of Alien 4 was better than the non, and I liked the story.
But for AvP2, my god, how awful. It was almost a catalogue of previous scenes throughout the two stories that were successful.
The only good bit was forwarding the Weyland/Yutani Corp story, and even that was horrendously crowbarred on at the end.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.03.31 14:54:00 -
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Since aliens doesn't eat human nor do they eat predators, what do they eat?
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.31 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jas Dakarii
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(remember, the first Predator ever seen was successfully beaten to a pulp by Arnie in the original film, once unarmed)
Thats not really true, in the first Predator movie, even unarmed the predator beat the ever living crap out of Arnie. The only reason Arnie lived was the Predator made one mistake and had a freakin part of a tree dropped on its head.
Ah, but Arnie still won. He survived a direct attack by a Predator, tricked it with a (rather feeble) trap, then killed it.
Tell me, do you think an unarmed Arnie could have/should have been able to beat that Predalien in a fist-fight? Or even come close? Or simply not have his head ripped off with a single tail-flick? He wouldn't have stood a chance- and he survived fist-fighting a Predator. Thus, the Predator should not have been able to punch out the Predalien. Beat it with the aid of cloaking devices, plasma cannons, throwing blades, harpoon guns, huge nets and massive spears, yes. Bare hands? No.
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Jas Dakarii
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Posted - 2008.03.31 17:28:00 -
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So your saying all predators are equal and the same.
Just because you trick a elephant to walk off a cliff once does that mean the elephant is physically feeble? Or does it just mean it got tricked that one time?
That tree trunk that got dropped on the predator had alot of mass, and hit him directly in his unguarded head. The fact that it didn't kill him goes to say something about the predators toughness considering that same tree trunk would of killed any human easily.
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.03.31 17:30:00 -
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Edited by: SoftRevolution on 31/03/2008 17:36:47
Originally by: Ryan Scouse'UK
Originally by: CCP Atropos
Pfft.
Comics > Games > Movies
Then: Aliens > Predator > Alien 3 > Alien > Predator 2 > AVP 2 > AVP > Alien Resurrection
wait a second why does no1 like Alien Resurrection I thought that was ok.. much better then alien 1...
Really?
Why?
Alien was a pretty spooky "haunted house in space" movie with a genuinely disconcerting monster (assuming you haven't seen a chestburster jumping out of someone's chest a hojillion tims), by a pretty decent director.
I read that Giger's original design for the egg just had two lips 
Alien Resurrection was pretty much just a ****ty rehash of Aliens with some 90's paranoia about GM thrown in.
As for the Predator's motivation - they're releasing eggs for sport not to cause a full scale infection. They're about as chuffed at the prospect of an outbreak as we are. They consider places they intentionally release the eggs to be like game reserves and prefer isolated spots. I think that's how it was in the comics anyway.
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Patch86
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Posted - 2008.03.31 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Jas Dakarii
So your saying all predators are equal and the same.
Just because you trick a elephant to walk off a cliff once does that mean the elephant is physically feeble? Or does it just mean it got tricked that one time?
That tree trunk that got dropped on the predator had alot of mass, and hit him directly in his unguarded head. The fact that it didn't kill him goes to say something about the predators toughness considering that same tree trunk would of killed any human easily.
No, I'm just saying: Predalien = massive armour plated acid filled killing machine with massive bladed tale, huge bite, and giant razor sharp claws. Predator = very strong man-shaped thing in a suit, one of which struggled when brawling with Arnie. Arnie = Austrian guy with none of the above.
It's like saying "I lost a fight with some guy the other day. I was totally winning for most of it, but he had me at the end." and then for your next trick go and wrestle an adult Siberian Tiger. It's not to say you can't win, just that based on your past record, winning would be a bit shocking.
And to be frank, it's out of character with the AvP universe. The beauty of the Predators in the fiction is their technology, and their better-than-human physique. They're not meant to be able to fist-fight with an alien. Its stupid. Aliens are supposed to be the uber-strong killing machines, Predators are supposed to be the honour bound pseudo-samurai Big Game Hunters, and humans are supposed to be...well, massive underdogs, I suppose. It's just another example of how the film's director missed the point.
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
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Basileus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.31 19:00:00 -
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AVP II sucked monkey juice.
That film is nowt more than a combination of cliches from the previous alien films, adding nothing new whatsoever. An utter, utter waste of time that film.
It's about time Hollywood came up with something with at least a hint of originality. 
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Zilkin
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Posted - 2008.03.31 19:20:00 -
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Was huge disappointment for me. Horrible acting, absolutely horrible plot, poor special effects and still saving on those by having so little light in most scenes, etc.
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Jas Dakarii
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Posted - 2008.03.31 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86
No, I'm just saying: Predalien = massive armour plated acid filled killing machine with massive bladed tale, huge bite, and giant razor sharp claws. Predator = very strong man-shaped thing in a suit, one of which struggled when brawling with Arnie. Arnie = Austrian guy with none of the above.
It's like saying "I lost a fight with some guy the other day. I was totally winning for most of it, but he had me at the end." and then for your next trick go and wrestle an adult Siberian Tiger. It's not to say you can't win, just that based on your past record, winning would be a bit shocking.
And to be frank, it's out of character with the AvP universe. The beauty of the Predators in the fiction is their technology, and their better-than-human physique. They're not meant to be able to fist-fight with an alien. Its stupid. Aliens are supposed to be the uber-strong killing machines, Predators are supposed to be the honour bound pseudo-samurai Big Game Hunters, and humans are supposed to be...well, massive underdogs, I suppose. It's just another example of how the film's director missed the point.
I think you need to watch the fight with Arnie again, the predator did not struggle with him at all. He was literally pounding arnie to dust. He only lost because of the rope-a-dope trap.
Predaliens like all other strains take genetic qualities from their host. Hence the predalien as you say would be big, strong, smart and lethal. But that doesn't mean it was inordinatly stronger then a Predator.
And aliens are not really 'armor' plated, their exoskeleton hardly makes them impervious. Tougher then human skin most definatly. The fact the pred alien was bigger then most drones would also indicate it has less agility then the average alien.
I'm not saying the predator was suppose to win hands down, just saying that unarmed the odds are not stacked extremely against him.
I will say that the Predalien vs Predator fight in the movie was abit anti-climatic. Though what actually ****ed me off the most about that movie was that dorky love sick teen, after screwing the predator out of its advantage vs the aliens gets a fricken Tail through his chest and lives.... He should of been dead in minutes from a wound like that.
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NeoNeTiC
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Posted - 2008.03.31 21:58:00 -
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Before I descent to the currenlty present nerd-ism in this thread by telling people why Alien X was superior to Alien Y I better make it relatively short:
AvP2 (the movie) was a weak attempt to ***** out two licensed universes in one violent overture. It had a funny trailer, though.
Alien 1-3 were good. (Don't you even dare mentioning Ressurection!)
[Ripley has tried in vain to disengage the Nostromo's self-destruct]
Ripley: Mother! I've turned the cooling unit back on. Mother!
Mother: The ship will automatically destruct in "T" minus five minutes.
Ripley: You... *****!
[smashes computer monitor with flamethrower]
Predator was good.
Poncho: You're bleeding, man.
Blain: I ain't got time to bleed.
[Poncho shoots a bunch of grenades up to the top of the cliff]
Poncho: You got time to duck?
AvP (the games) were good.
The AvP movies on the other hand sucked.
Haven't read the comics or books, can't comment on them.
I wonder why game-adaptation movies always fail so hard whilst games set in two combined movie-universes can actually be good? 
tl;dr:
AvP2 (the movie) sucked.
Enjoy watching crappy movies,
NeoNeTiC
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.31 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: NeoNeTiC
I wonder why game-adaptation movies always fail so hard whilst games set in two combined movie-universes can actually be good?
Ah, now thats an easy one. The games were awesome because you could play as either of two of the coolest, most iconic alien antagonists in film history (plus some cool space marines with massive guns and stuff). It had fun gameplay, was set on a creepy alien planet, and had lots of nervy conspiracy stuff.
The films were bad because you dont get to play as two of the coolest aliens ever (plus space marines), there was no fun gameplay, no cool alien planet, and no nervy conspiracy. Bad script and bad acting doesn't help.
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Jonny Lumi
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Posted - 2008.03.31 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: SoftRevolution
I read that Giger's original design for the egg just had two lips
Having seen lots of Giger's work, I think that must be true. 
But back to topic. I think first AvP was still lot better than the second one. Generally both suck, yes, but I enjoyed more watching the people run in ancient temple, than in some boring city. And as someone already said, what's the thing with the crap teenage romances? Why oh why? Aargh.
Then again, I'm only commenting the movies, since i've never seen the original comic books.
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Bahhs Deep
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Posted - 2008.04.01 02:57:00 -
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I liked it much more than AVP 1, the main reason is how it was much harder to predict.
I KNEW there was something funny about that chick being the only one without a vest...
**spoiler**
Too bad, she was the best thing going for that kid.
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XenoPagan
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.04.01 10:52:00 -
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being ye olde xenomorph fan, I must say that I quite liked some parts of AvP2, it had some kicks and twists that AvP didn't had. but yeah, it failed horribly in general.
like one pilot pointed out, I don't get it either why oh why isn't AvP "franchise" setting in the future where it belongs? give us marines, predators and swarms of aliens. not again a typical smalltown (/temple) setting.
there were lots of good comic-book stories in AvP world, at least use them.
PS. I'm one of those weird people who liked Alien: Resurrection. Aliens still holds first prize in my book though
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