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Matt Emery
Vanguard Frontiers
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.03.31 23:15:00 -
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Dear fellow pilots
Im sure we all saw the star, the big bright one wich disapeared abit ago, i was reading about our origins and stuff and found somthing called mourse code, it was used to communicate useing just dots and dashes and could also be done by continusly turning a flashlight on and of
This could be an attempt by our great ansertors or god or somthing to communicate with us, just a theroy but its got some truth behind it and should not be dismissed
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Outlaw Jenner
Misfits Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.04.01 05:36:00 -
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A very good point indeed. I wonder if anyone had tried that route yet. Problem is since it stopped maybe they thought no one was out there to communicate and gave up hope. It's definately a good point but I don't think we have the technology to create a beacon that would reach out that far.
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Matt Emery
Vanguard Frontiers
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.04.04 20:50:00 -
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perhaps we should see what the jove empire thinks, in there quest for knowlage im sure they have a solution somwhere and to get them to do it just say, well umm that they could gain more knowlage really?
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Esna Pitoojee
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Posted - 2008.04.04 22:47:00 -
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Personally, I'm going to wait for a bit more info on this 'big star' before I'm convinced it's an attempt to communicate. That said, a burst of that magnitude, modulated to pulse on a certain frequency, could be a rudimentary (if extremely effective) method of intergalactic communication. I would very much like to know what the Jove have to say on this - considering their level of technology, they probably know a good deal about it.
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Matt Emery
Vanguard Frontiers
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.04.04 23:14:00 -
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The problems going to be contacting the jove empire, ive personally never met one and my only information comes from storeys of the first pods my ancestors flew
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Javiir Soban
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Posted - 2008.04.05 00:52:00 -
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I to think it likely that the Jove know more than us about the star. The fact that it appeared and disappeared around the same time all across the galaxy. This tells me this wasn't something within our reach, or likely to be for quite some time. This object seems to violate the laws of physics-even our ships can only create a limited depleted vacuum.
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Mithfindel
Argent Group
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Posted - 2008.04.05 16:29:00 -
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Well, a code transmitted over two different lengths of pulses could be binary or trinary (if you count the absence of a pulse as a signal). As such, the optimal way to code information would be to make it an optimal length code, so that the most-used character (or in phonetic script, sound) gets coded with the minimum length string in the chosen code alphabet.
The problem is that while we could actually reconstruct the code alphabet with this information, we do not know the plain-text alphabet. We could try to cross-reference the language with any of the known languages to us, but likely the languages have changed during the course of millenia and the speech, whatever it would be, would be unrecognizable to us.
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Matt Emery
Vanguard Frontiers
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.04.05 21:31:00 -
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to us mayby, but i think if we dig deep enough we might just find it, or the jove might anyway, who knows?
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Esna Pitoojee
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.06 03:08:00 -
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I think the general consensus is that we need the Jove perspective this... But, as Matt Emery put it, 'hard' doesn't begin to describe trying to contact them. Guess we'll just have to wait for the Jove to decide to share any information...
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Kendar Zek
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Posted - 2008.04.06 03:38:00 -
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Morse code... that's extremely archaic. Discounting the previously mentioned fact that this phenomenon appeared simultaneously in every system in the New Eden cluster, and disappeared equally abruptly, you are left with a pulse with no variation in magnitude that lasted for several months.
If we were to assume that this is a continuous wave signal comparable to Morse code, where the signal is coded only by its state, on or off, and the length of the pulses, it's going to take years to get any intelligible information. That, of course, is assuming that the light reappears in a measurable amount of time. Given that we have no cipher key and no knowledge of the alpha key to which this supposed signal would relate, it would be impossible to break out any meaningful communication from the single lengthy pulse we have seen.
A graphic analysis of this signal would indicate years in an off state, several months on, and another off state until present. Of those three distinct states, only one is precisely measurable in its duration. Attempting to understand this as a continuous wave signal, the simplest of communications, with so little information, would be the equivalent of me handing you a sheet of paper with a fraction of a character in a language you do not understand, and asking you to decipher the alphabet.
Pardon me for having a laugh over this, but I'd say the most valuable study of the phenomenon would be as it pertains to physics and quantum mechanics. If this is an artificial phenomenon, it certainly isn't an attempt to communicate by any intelligent species.
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Rainrix Deathwish
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.04.06 17:09:00 -
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Well it's not bad to atleast try and cover all possible situations..? I doubt it's morse code personally but if people never asked questions, How would we learn?
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.04.07 08:35:00 -
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I find myself agreeing with pilot Rainrix here. The phenomena which we all saw is not necessarily natural. Certainly by defying the laws of physics this might be very well something made by a more advanced people, the Jove or others unknown.
When watching the "star" musing upon what it could be I do recall it pulsing at regular intervals. I however thought this was just reflection in the camera drone's lenses and did not bother making a recording. But I am sure those who are involved in more throughout research of the subject have done so.
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Amarth Thargan
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Posted - 2008.04.07 09:32:00 -
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I'm getting the jitters from people that keep screaming, defying the laws of physics.
Whatever happened, it did not defy the laws because it was able to happen. In this universe you can use the laws of physics, you can even discover new pricipals.
Something that happens can be at it worst but unexplainable by our current knowledge, but that does not mean it is something "defying" the laws of physics
An ancient saying goes:
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
I find this very applicable concerning this event.
It could have been communication, a weapon, a cosmic event, an alien industrial accident or something which is beyond our knowledge to understand, but I'll never believe it was something "defying" THE laws of physics.
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Beletre
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.04.07 17:05:00 -
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While the 'star' was present, I took some time to look at the intervals of flashes, think that indeed there might be something to the pattern.
If so, it was a very brief something. The pattern of blinks was simple and repititious, repeating every few seconds. However, I am rather curious as to just how this pattern came about. Nothing I know in space can make a pattern other then on/off/on/off that doesn't have intelligent life behind it.
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Myrhial Arkenath
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Posted - 2008.04.07 17:19:00 -
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Apologies. I see GalNet's translation software wasn't too accurate in taking over my meaning. With "Defy the laws of physics" I meant as we currently know them. Which is what arouses this point of discussion as no theory seems to fully cover the case. I'll pick my words more carefully in the future.
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Fulgz
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Posted - 2008.04.08 03:38:00 -
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morse code is in use today by the military as a form of communication. the yanks used it in world war 2
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2008.04.08 10:01:00 -
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Edited by: zoolkhan on 08/04/2008 10:05:18
 Originally by: Matt Emery
Dear fellow pilots
Im sure we all saw the star, the big bright one wich disapeared abit ago, i was reading about our origins and stuff and found somthing called mourse code, it was used to communicate useing just dots and dashes and could also be done by continusly turning a flashlight on and of
This could be an attempt by our great ansertors or god or somthing to communicate with us, just a theroy but its got some truth behind it and should not be dismissed
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It is spelled "m-o-r-s-e" because of the inventor Samuel Morse:
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He lived on terra, on the other side of the eve gate -
very long before the discovery of the gate itself.
The broad use of morse-code has ended in what the old terranian civilisation called 2010 anno domini, or even sooner.
(ask an ammar about what it means)
since then only a few military units and private individuals
continued to use it - as far i know sattelite commnication and faster digital data transfer technologies made the old code obsolete, but on a war after 2010 - where the sattelite network broke down it reiceived a small comeback - because that technology was simple and robust.
Transmission devices could be built from electronic spare parts, and morsekeys from a knife and two nails. The instrument of choice after you have lost your top gear in a war.
It is possible, that signals you catch now - have been launched thousands of years ago far away.
"-.-. --.- -.. . --- .... ..--- -..- .- - .--. ... . -.-"
Is one fragment that has been saved from salvaged debris once.
The direct decode would mean:
"CQ DE OH8XAT PSE K"
Our scintists believe it is just a broadcast call for anyone in range
from a station called OH8XAT - the callsign itself is a identifier we have not yet
decoded. It could be its not planetary, or politically but rather a locator.
Perhaps coming from a region on terra itself.
About your own observations, please submit your recordings to me
and i do what i can. As a matter of fact i have a degree in cryptology
and i em certain i can decode almost any kind of morse code.
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Mr Reeth
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Posted - 2008.04.08 10:32:00 -
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This place is just crawling with OCC infected Earth Cultists.
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2008.04.08 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Reeth
This place is just crawling with OCC infected Earth Cultists.
::readies flamethrower::
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2008.04.08 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: Fulgz
morse code is in use today by the military as a form of communication.
Caldary navy still uses it? 
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Mr Reeth
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Posted - 2008.04.08 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: zoolkhan
Originally by: Mr Reeth
This place is just crawling with OCC infected Earth Cultists.
::readies flamethrower::
Whats ooc? replacement for vitoc?
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Andreus Ixiris
Heretic Logistics
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Posted - 2008.04.08 19:10:00 -
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A popular theory circulating among the various capsuleers of my corporation, and indeed, the crews of their various ships, is that it is the phenomenon we know as the EVE Gate - viewed from the other side. That doesn't really do much to explain the way it appeared and disappeared in EVERY SYSTEM, SIMULTANEOUSLY, but given that we don't have an accurate explanation on it yet from anyone, it's as good an explanation as the next guy's, I guess.
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