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Frere Luc
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Posted - 2008.04.04 07:25:00 -
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Originally by: jose aguayo Edited by: jose aguayo on 02/04/2008 23:25:20 Are you kidding me? some are saying Muffins but actually its The United that are the most notorious most hated of all pirate corps.
I found their killboard after searching through google for a couple of mins. http://theunited.griefwatch.net/?p=corp&corp=the%20united
Let's count:
38737 kills
From this kills are 16429 Capsules 1855 Industrial 5742 Rookie Ship 3676 Shuttle
*Wow* ~71% of their victims can't or nearly can't shoot back. Impressive.
Frere
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Nebuchadnezzar I
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Posted - 2008.04.04 09:14:00 -
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You cant rely on KB stats for much really, but lol at "sex panthers" padding eachothers backs.
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PleaseInsertInMyAlt
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.04 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Frere Luc
Originally by: jose aguayo Edited by: jose aguayo on 02/04/2008 23:25:20 Are you kidding me? some are saying Muffins but actually its The United that are the most notorious most hated of all pirate corps.
I found their killboard after searching through google for a couple of mins. http://theunited.griefwatch.net/?p=corp&corp=the%20united
Let's count:
38737 kills
From this kills are 16429 Capsules 1855 Industrial 5742 Rookie Ship 3676 Shuttle
*Wow* ~71% of their victims can't or nearly can't shoot back. Impressive.
Frere
Yup...now think of how much isk they've destroyed from the other 30%.
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Alowishus
mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.04.04 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Nebuchadnezzar I lol at "sex panthers" padding eachothers backs.
Funny, we seem to be the only ones not talking about us. 
/makes fart noise
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Elles D
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.04.04 18:21:00 -
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Veng3ance
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Posted - 2008.04.04 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Mistress Suffering
Veni Vidi Vici. -- Pirating in faction BS Snig*erdly -- Pirating in faction BS The Establishment -- Pirating in... you get the idea.
I appreciate any pirate group that puts their serious ISK on the line. If all you're pirating for is money, you use cheap garbage ships and gank people in expensive stuff. If you're doing it for fun and style, then you break out the faction gear. Props to all three of the above groups who I've seen do exactly that.
Are we considered pirates mistress? 
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Eva Brain
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Posted - 2008.04.04 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Philipius Maximus Veto. is damn good;
Originally by: Case Mass 2) Veto (DL > Veto cause I'm biased :P)
Originally by: Malus Frost 3. veto - nuff said really

I find it insulting that all the noobs of the world actually think that Veto is a good pirate corp, or a pirate corp at all. They're an RP corp that spends more time on the forums and writing stories about their chars than they actually do pirating. Veto constantly tops peoples list of pirate corps because Verone "is so nice" and "fun to talk to" and is popular on a personal level. In game Verone sucks, when he actually does play, which isn't often according to their KB. Any real pirate doesn't get credit where it's do simply because people hate them, they're unpopular. Verone is like a cheerleader that became class president. It's sad.
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Hollis Azhrei
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.04 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: Eva Brain
Originally by: Philipius Maximus Veto. is damn good;
Originally by: Case Mass 2) Veto (DL > Veto cause I'm biased :P)
Originally by: Malus Frost 3. veto - nuff said really

I find it insulting that all the noobs of the world actually think that Veto is a good pirate corp, or a pirate corp at all. They're an RP corp that spends more time on the forums and writing stories about their chars than they actually do pirating. Veto constantly tops peoples list of pirate corps because Verone "is so nice" and "fun to talk to" and is popular on a personal level. In game Verone sucks, when he actually does play, which isn't often according to their KB. Any real pirate doesn't get credit where it's do simply because people hate them, they're unpopular. Verone is like a cheerleader that became class president. It's sad.
Which is exactly why they are the only corp NOT posting in this thread about how awesome they are.
That to me speaks volumes. Sure other corps may get more kills, pod more people, or have more smack on the forums. But its the corps like Snigg, Veto, Metafarmers who do what they do very well.
Looking over Veto's killboard and forums i find some impressve stats
http://veto.griefwatch.net/?p=corp&corp=Veto.
and the part i find most interesting, their ransom page http://veto.get-no.de/viewforum.php?f=26
Show me other "pirate" corps that have ransom pages, and dont gate camp.
I dont know if they are #1 and tbh could not care less if they were but i think your wrong when you say all they do is RP on the forums, i think thats verone's department. The rest seem to be your run of the mill killers and pirates.
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Rainsdon
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Posted - 2008.04.04 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Eva Brain

I find it insulting that all the noobs of the world actually think that Veto is a good pirate corp, or a pirate corp at all. They're an RP corp that spends more time on the forums and writing stories about their chars than they actually do pirating. Veto constantly tops peoples list of pirate corps because Verone "is so nice" and "fun to talk to" and is popular on a personal level. In game Verone sucks, when he actually does play, which isn't often according to their KB. Any real pirate doesn't get credit where it's do simply because people hate them, they're unpopular. Verone is like a cheerleader that became class president. It's sad.
Yea 'cause our KB lies. :)
- & I havn't created a story for my character. =[ ________________
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lucrative
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.04.04 23:17:00 -
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From my onw experience the most fear, best and smart p'wat corp was (no longer exist) the Tundragon / Teddybear / BonesCollectors.
They were the 1 who podded me (my 3 years old main) for the first time.
Most respect and R.I.P 
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Ferocious FeAr
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2008.04.05 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus If you're any one of the Asian bloodlines, and you're not an alt, you don't get to toot your own horn anyway, still wet behind the ears if you ask me.
Character age doesn't mean much. I've seen 03/04 characters get dominated by younger pilots. There is a lot behind pvp then just skill points.
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BobTeh
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Posted - 2008.04.05 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ferocious FeAr
Originally by: Alowishus If you're any one of the Asian bloodlines, and you're not an alt, you don't get to toot your own horn anyway, still wet behind the ears if you ask me.
Character age doesn't mean much. I've seen 03/04 characters get dominated by younger pilots. There is a lot behind pvp then just skill points.
i agree with this statement
pvp is skill based yeah you get those extra %%%
but i beive and im sure most of you where ever you are from corp\alliance this does not matter it is us at our keyboard who really do it im sure that most of us if not all of us who use this forum bar a few people who dont actually know what they are talkng about
can say that they could start a new char and be -9 in a few hours successfully
cause it is us that are the true skill nubs buy hi sp char with daddies credit card and still dont have a clue and go out and try to wtf pwn us and then get killed and podded
so yes we sat at home are the true pvp
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Ka Jolo
Ministry of Destruction Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.05 08:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ferocious FeAr Character age doesn't mean much. I've seen 03/04 characters get dominated by younger pilots. There is a lot behind pvp then just skill points.
/agree
Yet PvP corps still set entry requirements in terms of millions of SP--typically 10 million minimum but the standard seems to be creeping up to 15 million now. The better corps actually care where those sp are spent.
I've been thinking about it, and if I were a recruiting officer, I would set the entry requirements in terms of ship skills (e.g. "able to fly a HAC, Recon ship, or Command ship with all relevant skills at least level 4") and PvP skill (e.g. "able to provide at least 10 KB links showing solo kills vs. combat vessels, including at least 3 against superior numbers and/or ship classes").
For a rookie/training corp, I would ignore skill points entirely and just ask to see the KB links for three solo kills vs. combat vessels of any kind.
Your Money or Your Life! The journal of a space pirate
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Logi3
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.05 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Hollis Azhrei
Originally by: Eva Brain
Originally by: Philipius Maximus Veto. is damn good;
Originally by: Case Mass 2) Veto (DL > Veto cause I'm biased :P)
Originally by: Malus Frost 3. veto - nuff said really

I find it insulting that all the noobs of the world actually think that Veto is a good pirate corp, or a pirate corp at all. They're an RP corp that spends more time on the forums and writing stories about their chars than they actually do pirating. Veto constantly tops peoples list of pirate corps because Verone "is so nice" and "fun to talk to" and is popular on a personal level. In game Verone sucks, when he actually does play, which isn't often according to their KB. Any real pirate doesn't get credit where it's do simply because people hate them, they're unpopular. Verone is like a cheerleader that became class president. It's sad.
Which is exactly why they are the only corp NOT posting in this thread about how awesome they are.
That to me speaks volumes. Sure other corps may get more kills, pod more people, or have more smack on the forums. But its the corps like Snigg, Veto, Metafarmers who do what they do very well.
Looking over Veto's killboard and forums i find some impressve stats
http://veto.griefwatch.net/?p=corp&corp=Veto.
and the part i find most interesting, their ransom page http://veto.get-no.de/viewforum.php?f=26
Show me other "pirate" corps that have ransom pages, and dont gate camp.
I dont know if they are #1 and tbh could not care less if they were but i think your wrong when you say all they do is RP on the forums, i think thats verone's department. The rest seem to be your run of the mill killers and pirates.
Thanks for the kind words. We prefer to let the forums/KB do the talking for us, if your interested in seeing what VETO actualy do, those links show all! ----
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Nuts Nougat
The Athiest Syndicate INT0XICATI0N
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Posted - 2008.04.05 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Mistress Suffering
Veni Vidi Vici. -- Pirating in faction BS Snig*erdly -- Pirating in faction BS The Establishment -- Pirating in... you get the idea.
I appreciate any pirate group that puts their serious ISK on the line. If all you're pirating for is money, you use cheap garbage ships and gank people in expensive stuff. If you're doing it for fun and style, then you break out the faction gear. Props to all three of the above groups who I've seen do exactly that.
This. Thread ended here imo. _________________________________________________________
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Narciss Sevar
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Posted - 2008.04.05 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ka Jolo
Originally by: Ferocious FeAr Character age doesn't mean much. I've seen 03/04 characters get dominated by younger pilots. There is a lot behind pvp then just skill points.
/agree
Yet PvP corps still set entry requirements in terms of millions of SP--typically 10 million minimum but the standard seems to be creeping up to 15 million now. The better corps actually care where those sp are spent.
I've been thinking about it, and if I were a recruiting officer, I would set the entry requirements in terms of ship skills (e.g. "able to fly a HAC, Recon ship, or Command ship with all relevant skills at least level 4") and PvP skill (e.g. "able to provide at least 10 KB links showing solo kills vs. combat vessels, including at least 3 against superior numbers and/or ship classes").
For a rookie/training corp, I would ignore skill points entirely and just ask to see the KB links for three solo kills vs. combat vessels of any kind.
Sniggwaffe has no entry requirements and we will teach you how to pvp, no kb links required.
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Alkarz
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Posted - 2008.04.05 13:29:00 -
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#1 without a doubt goes to Triumverate, a collection of some of the best pirate corps in eve, they just greif to hell and back, whether it be mission runners in high-sec, haulers in high-sec or just roaming 0.0 in multiple nano gangs destroying all opposition around them, lest not forget there hot dropping skills.
#2 Has to go to Veto, lots of respect goes to them.
#3 has to go to Outbreak, good to see they have left the tortuga thing and are back to the old ways.
#4 Cant really give you another 2 i have respect for.
Alkarz Trader and producer |

Kehmor
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Posted - 2008.04.05 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus
Originally by: Soren
Originally by: Alowishus PAK are not pirates...
Maybe not lately, but we were for longer then most corps last..
And what does that have to do with this thread? If you want to get all nostalgic I can name a lot of former/closed pirate corps with a lot more notoriety than PAK. I thought we were mostly talking about active pirate corps. 
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Ur235
MAFIA
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Posted - 2008.04.05 14:14:00 -
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Mafia for sure
And pirate coaltion for best alliance for sure
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Neal Cassady
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Posted - 2008.04.05 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ka Jolo
Yet PvP corps still set entry requirements in terms of millions of SP--typically 10 million minimum but the standard seems to be creeping up to 15 million now. The better corps actually care where those sp are spent.
as a recruitment officer for my pirate corp i can tell you we care very little how many sp a pilot has. we do have a requirement of 10 mil, but it is soft and if a player can demonstrate pvp experience and a good attitude we will take him regardless of sp. in fact, if someone goes on and on about his sp in an app it may make us question whether he has the right attitude for us. a good attitude, situational awareness, and pilot skill will always outweigh sp in my humble opinion.
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Marcus TheMartin
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Posted - 2008.04.05 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ur235 Mafia for sure
And pirate coaltion for best alliance for sure
pirate coalition was a big nap and you know it
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Ur235
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Posted - 2008.04.05 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
pirate coalition was a big nap and you know it
It may have been yeh but its the biggest pirate alliance success ever in eve and you know that, to get that many diff pirate corps under 1 alliance you will enver see anything like it again for a long time
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Ka Jolo
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Posted - 2008.04.05 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: Neal Cassady as a recruitment officer for my pirate corp i can tell you we care very little how many sp a pilot has. we do have a requirement of 10 mil, but it is soft and if a player can demonstrate pvp experience and a good attitude we will take him regardless of sp.
Huh. Whenever I looked through the recruitment forum, I just skipped over all the recruitment threads with the 10M sp requirement, thinking they weren't interested.
Your Money or Your Life! The journal of a space pirate
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Neal Cassady
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Posted - 2008.04.06 01:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ka Jolo
Originally by: Neal Cassady as a recruitment officer for my pirate corp i can tell you we care very little how many sp a pilot has. we do have a requirement of 10 mil, but it is soft and if a player can demonstrate pvp experience and a good attitude we will take him regardless of sp.
Huh. Whenever I looked through the recruitment forum, I just skipped over all the recruitment threads with the 10M sp requirement, thinking they weren't interested.
yeah man the key is pvp experience. to have been in game long enough to have the level of experience we are looking for will probably put you at around 7 mil even if you started pvping from day one. plus since a lot of pirate corps spend a lot of time under sentry guns you really need to be able to fly a ship that can tank em a little bit, unless the corp only belthunts.
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PaRaZiTuRL
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.04.06 23:23:00 -
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What ever happened to "The short bus squad".Pew-Pew'd my ass a year or so ago.Lot of fun then with the 15km dash, people were ratting in cruisers in belts.
The memories.
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Ikel
m3 Corp Friend or Enemy
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Posted - 2008.04.07 00:39:00 -
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SAK. -------
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techzer0
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Posted - 2008.04.07 01:22:00 -
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Edited by: techzer0 on 07/04/2008 01:22:15
Originally by: Ka Jolo
Originally by: Ferocious FeAr Character age doesn't mean much. I've seen 03/04 characters get dominated by younger pilots. There is a lot behind pvp then just skill points.
/agree
Yet PvP corps still set entry requirements in terms of millions of SP--typically 10 million minimum but the standard seems to be creeping up to 15 million now. The better corps actually care where those sp are spent.
I've been thinking about it, and if I were a recruiting officer, I would set the entry requirements in terms of ship skills (e.g. "able to fly a HAC, Recon ship, or Command ship with all relevant skills at least level 4") and PvP skill (e.g. "able to provide at least 10 KB links showing solo kills vs. combat vessels, including at least 3 against superior numbers and/or ship classes").
For a rookie/training corp, I would ignore skill points entirely and just ask to see the KB links for three solo kills vs. combat vessels of any kind.
Veto has a very strict recruitment poilicy, granted it involves an SP minimum (25mil in combat related skills), but the individual skills listed under it that are required are what makes it a great policy for more experienced pilots. I was impressed the first time I looked it over, and have basically used their minimums as a guide for my skill training recently. Not that I ever plan on even trying to join them, but it is worth looking over for people who have never seen it.
Linky
Edit: decided not to be lazy and made a link  ------------
Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster 
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Sionide
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2008.04.07 04:36:00 -
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Edited by: Sionide on 07/04/2008 04:39:30 Edited by: Sionide on 07/04/2008 04:37:55
Originally by: Ur235
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
pirate coalition was a big nap and you know it
It may have been yeh but its the biggest pirate alliance success ever in eve and you know that, to get that many diff pirate corps under 1 alliance you will enver see anything like it again for a long time
That is because pirates are usually people who like small->medium fights, and no capitals. They also kill for money (loot). How can the loot be well distributed when there are like 20 people on a kill? Loot then goes to an alliance pool then distributed to all the pirates in all the corps? Very unlikely.
What are you pirating consistantly with 20 man gangs? Why do you need so many people? Answer, you don't. Which is why you won't see such a big number again. It doesn't makes any sense.
So don't gloat that it won't happen trying to imply because people can't, it won't happen (probably) because it's stupid.
=== In Eve, never bring a knife to a knife fight.
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Goyda
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Posted - 2008.04.07 04:55:00 -
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Originally by: Mistress Suffering
Veni Vidi Vici. -- Pirating in faction BS Snig*erdly -- Pirating in faction BS The Establishment -- Pirating in... you get the idea.
I appreciate any pirate group that puts their serious ISK on the line. If all you're pirating for is money, you use cheap garbage ships and gank people in expensive stuff. If you're doing it for fun and style, then you break out the faction gear. Props to all three of the above groups who I've seen do exactly that.
Why thank you, we do like to present ourselves properly.
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Patso Tappaja
Paisti Paisti Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.04.07 06:13:00 -
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Mommy I saw that man shoot an hauler. He must a real piwate.
Off to hunt wabbits. -->
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