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Rells	Posted - 2008.04.02 00:42:00 - [1] For General Release: H-PA29 - Venal Agony Empire announces a new class of [link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?70928]PVP-WOLFPACKS - April 19, 2008 - 19:00 Eve Time[/link]. Please go and sign up. This class will be the biggest WOLFPACKS class ever with tons of fun packed in. Ever calculate the average DPS of 100 Destroyers? In addition Agony Empire announces a brand new class. PVP-ADVANCED will focus on the usage of Cruiser sized ships in PVP and will teach skills over and above what you learned in WOLFPACKS. The first session is: [link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?70929]PVP-ADVANCED - May 3, 2008 - 19:00 Eve Time[/link]. The materials for the class are still under construction but we expect the class to fill fast. Please be advised that this is in NO WAY a recruiting advertisement. Students of PvP University courses do NOT change corp to participate in the class and it is our stringent policy to never actively recruit a student of a class. Students will be in a gang with their instructors and other students. Please remember that AGONY has no one set to blue, so although you should not fire on blues, fellow students and AGONY will fire on them. -- Rells -- CEO Agony Empire http://www.agony-unleashed.com/Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.[/url]
Erotic Irony	Posted - 2008.04.02 00:43:00 - [2] Originally by: Rells For General Release: H-PA29 - Venal Agony Empire announces a new class of [link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?70928]PVP-WOLFPACKS - April 19, 2008 - 19:00 Eve Time[/link]. Please go and sign up. This class will be the biggest WOLFPACKS class ever with tons of fun packed in. Ever calculate the average DPS of 100 Destroyers? In addition Agony Empire announces a brand new class. PVP-ADVANCED will focus on the usage of Cruiser sized ships in PVP and will teach skills over and above what you learned in WOLFPACKS. The first session is: [link=http://www.agony-unleashed.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?70929]PVP-ADVANCED - May 3, 2008 - 19:00 Eve Time[/link]. The materials for the class are still under construction but we expect the class to fill fast. Please be advised that this is in NO WAY a recruiting advertisement. Students of PvP University courses do NOT change corp to participate in the class and it is our stringent policy to never actively recruit a student of a class. Students will be in a gang with their instructors and other students. Please remember that AGONY has no one set to blue, so although you should not fire on blues, fellow students and AGONY will fire on them. -- Rells -- CEO Agony Empire sell forum and lol @ agony recertification crisis ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Dirk Magnum	Posted - 2008.04.02 00:44:00 - [3] Originally by: Rells Ever calculate the average DPS of 100 Destroyers? Yes, it = ~ Good luck with the new courses. Sounds like fun stuff. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Lance Fighter	Posted - 2008.04.02 00:54:00 - [4] I think its... OVER NINE THOUSAND. Ive noticed that 99.9% of people on these forums have a signature. If you are one of the 0.1% that doesnot have a sig, copy this into your sig, and display your defiance towards people with sigs.
Khanid Kutie	Posted - 2008.04.02 01:15:00 - [5] Originally by: Rells Edited by: Rells on 02/04/2008 00:59:51 For General Release: H-PA29 - Venal Agony Empire announces a new class of PVP-WOLFPACKS - April 19, 2008 - 19:00 Eve Time. Please go and sign up. This class will be the biggest WOLFPACKS class ever with tons of fun packed in. Ever calculate the average DPS of 100 Destroyers? In addition Agony Empire announces a brand new class. PVP-ADVANCED will focus on the usage of Cruiser sized ships in PVP and will teach skills over and above what you learned in WOLFPACKS. The first session is: PVP-ADVANCED - May 3, 2008 - 19:00 Eve Time. The materials for the class are still under construction but we expect the class to fill fast. Please be advised that this is in NO WAY a recruiting advertisement. Students of PvP University courses do NOT change corp to participate in the class and it is our stringent policy to never actively recruit a student of a class. Students will be in a gang with their instructors and other students. Please remember that AGONY has no one set to blue, so although you should not fire on blues, fellow students and AGONY will fire on them. -- Rells -- CEO Agony Empire lol gunna suck if your destroyer fleet gets camped in H-PA all night. Word to you, dont post things like this on the forums. ____________________________________________ Originally by: Thargat They should change the name of CAOD to EvE Zoo. Please to not feed the animals.
Krxon Blade	Posted - 2008.04.02 01:21:00 - [6] Originally by: Lance Fighter I've noticed that 99.9% of people on these forums have a signature. If you are one of the 0.1% that doesn't have a sig, copy this into your sig, and display your defiance towards people with sigs. It's always nice to have signature somehow separated from main text. What are you think about that? Don't know about others but I've started to read it again and again, just to find "ohnoes" thats your darn sig again -- EVE offline game
Lance Fighter	Posted - 2008.04.02 01:29:00 - [7] Originally by: Krxon Blade Originally by: Lance Fighter I've noticed that 99.9% of people on these forums have a signature. If you are one of the 0.1% that doesn't have a sig, copy this into your sig, and display your defiance towards people with sigs. It's always nice to have signature somehow separated from main text. What are you think about that? Don't know about others but I've started to read it again and again, just to find "ohnoes" thats your darn sig again ive been thinking about changing it, but im too lazy to actually go to the settings page and change it. meh, maybe later. Ill try to remember to put a line break at the end of my text again. However, it does make it seem more realistic that I have it right up against my text like it is.. almost like I dont really have a sig! Ive noticed that 99.9% of people on these forums have a signature. If you are one of the 0.1% that doesnot have a sig, copy this into your sig, and display your defiance towards people with sigs.
Rells	Posted - 2008.04.02 06:04:00 - [8] Originally by: Khanid Kutie lol gunna suck if your destroyer fleet gets camped in H-PA all night. Word to you, dont post things like this on the forums. Cant happen. Research the class and you will know why. http://www.agony-unleashed.com/Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.[/url]
Khanid Kutie I R Teh Poasting Alt Corp	Posted - 2008.04.02 06:22:00 - [9] Originally by: Rells Originally by: Khanid Kutie lol gunna suck if your destroyer fleet gets camped in H-PA all night. Word to you, dont post things like this on the forums. Cant happen. Research the class and you will know why. you trying to say Destroyers are immune to nano'd disco Battleships?? lol ____________________________________________ Originally by: Thargat They should change the name of CAOD to EvE Zoo. Please to not feed the animals.
Evesham Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.02 08:12:00 - [10] Originally by: Khanid Kutie Originally by: Rells Originally by: Khanid Kutie lol gunna suck if your destroyer fleet gets camped in H-PA all night. Word to you, dont post things like this on the forums. Cant happen. Research the class and you will know why. you trying to say Destroyers are immune to nano'd disco Battleships?? lol No He's saying the class starts in Nonni
Zappapapa Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2008.04.02 08:52:00 - [11] Originally by: Khanid Kutie you trying to say Destroyers are immune to nano'd disco Battleships?? lol To quote one of our past enemies... guy #1 > smart bombs man!! guy #2 > we've tried that guy #2 > they have a low effectiveness rating
TarSky	Posted - 2008.04.02 15:51:00 - [12] I love people who ignore the power of a frigate ... and I always enjoin to pop disco bs ... hehehe ... One think I learn from Agony , " Fly smart !!! " ------------------------ Eve it's fun. Enjoy it !
Rells Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2008.04.02 16:10:00 - [13] Originally by: TarSky Edited by: TarSky on 02/04/2008 16:03:36 I love people who ignore the power of a frigate ... and I always enjoin to pop disco bs ... hehehe ... One think I learn from Agony , " Fight smart !!! " Absolutely one of the best lessons in the game. BTW: Tarsky if you see this, send me a PM on AGONY's site.
Imperator Jora'h Hedion University	Posted - 2008.04.02 16:13:00 - [14] Required Skills: * Caldari Frigate 3+ or Gallente Frigate 3+ or Minmatar Frigate 3+ Something wrong with Amarr destroyers? Or is it just that the extra bling that an Amarr ship brings with shiny and lasers makes the other pilots jealous? ;) Seriously though...what's wrong with it? (guessing the absurd single mid slot) -------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2008.04.02 16:20:00 - [15] Yep, that does rather kill it for most PVP-related activities. My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats
Rells	Posted - 2008.04.02 16:31:00 - [16] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Required Skills: * Caldari Frigate 3+ or Gallente Frigate 3+ or Minmatar Frigate 3+ Something wrong with Amarr destroyers? Or is it just that the extra bling that an Amarr ship brings with shiny and lasers makes the other pilots jealous? ;) Seriously though...what's wrong with it? (guessing the absurd single mid slot) Its the capabilities of the small ships in Amarr that let them down. I am a devoted Amarr pilot mself but below cruiser level their ships are a joke. The coercer is a huge joke. As a damage ship, the catalyst is better, as a nos/neut ship the thrasher does better. As an EWAR ship ... ok stop laughing damnit! Frigates and destroyers can cooperate in an engagemnt of heavier ships because of deplaoyed EWAR and cooperative capabilities. The Amarr ships are not designed to work in groups below cruiser level and even at cruiser level, only the Arbitrator and Omen are worth even flying. When you get larger and into tech 2, the situation starts to change. However, one thing is certain about Amarr ships is that they require the most skills to fly effectively of any race in the game. If you are using lasers and ALL of your capacitor skills as well as controlled bursts are not at 4 or better then you dont have a chance. This is a salient point of Amarr that CCP devs constantly, and strangely, continue to miss. If the coercer had another mid slot you could fit the AB you need to get close for the lasers and still mount some EWAR to cooperate with the gang. So you can bring an amarr destroyer if you want but the other dessys will outclass you badly. http://www.agony-unleashed.com/Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.[/url]
Rells	Posted - 2008.04.02 17:34:00 - [17] Originally by: TarSky Edited by: TarSky on 02/04/2008 16:03:36 I love people who ignore the power of a frigate ... and I always enjoin to pop disco bs ... hehehe ... One think I learn from Agony , " Fight smart !!! " Very very few who have tried it survived. Most have died without causing a single casualty. One of the first thing a PVP-BASIC (a prereq to PVP-WOLFPACKS and PVP-ADVANCED) have been taught is to avoid smartbombinb battleships. And anyhing Nano with that many webs on it will be doing 2m/s rather than only 1m/s. http://www.agony-unleashed.com/Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.[/url]
Kurtis Lowe	Posted - 2008.04.02 18:33:00 - [18] oh Agony unleashed....How we miss you. You guys really should take a vacation to Great Wildlands soon :) Good times...... My views do not necessarily represent the views of my corp or alliance, they are my own sick twisted views :)
Dranearian	Posted - 2008.04.03 01:15:00 - [19] Bah, I don't want to go on a field trip to great Wildlands.. the food is terrible ;)
syphurous	Posted - 2008.04.03 01:35:00 - [20] Is there any issue with those of us who are willing to throw a bit more isk towards ships doing this in t2 frigates / t2 fittings ? I know there's t1 fit outs, but I never found any t2, because t2 aren't usualy considered throw away. But whats a few ishkur when your popping battleships. If there's anything serious against T2 I might just find some n00bs in corp and sponsor them too. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Originally by: GM Faolchu People salvaging your missions npcs or the player you just blew up are doing nothing wrong.
1717 A Dark Cloud Unaffiliated	Posted - 2008.04.03 02:50:00 - [21] Bump for Agony's excellent operation. Fun times and good knowledge. eve-online.com
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.04.03 03:00:00 - [22] Sounds like an awesome operation and I hope all goes well. o7 --- Join BH-DL Skills
Dranearian Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2008.04.03 03:18:00 - [23] Originally by: syphurous Is there any issue with those of us who are willing to throw a bit more isk towards ships doing this in t2 frigates / t2 fittings ? I know there's t1 fit outs, but I never found any t2, because t2 aren't usualy considered throw away. But whats a few ishkur when your popping battleships. If there's anything serious against T2 I might just find some n00bs in corp and sponsor them too. There are reasons why I could see this not being that great of an idea. However I am currently fairly sick and in an attempt to not pass on misinformation, I would like to direct you to the website. Sign up and send the teacher of that specific class a PM or post in one of the class specific forums you have access too (if you are signed up for the class). Those in the forum would be more than happy to help answer your questions. Sorry I can not help.. flu = bad.
Nareg Maxence The Scope	Posted - 2008.04.03 07:06:00 - [24] Originally by: Khanid Kutie you trying to say Destroyers are immune to nano'd disco Battleships?? lol Bring it..
comojo Ghost in the Machine Tygris Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.06 13:03:00 - [25] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Required Skills: * Caldari Frigate 3+ or Gallente Frigate 3+ or Minmatar Frigate 3+ Something wrong with Amarr destroyers? Or is it just that the extra bling that an Amarr ship brings with shiny and lasers makes the other pilots jealous? ;) Seriously though...what's wrong with it? (guessing the absurd single mid slot) Yep you got it in one go. A dessi with only 1 slot can have no chance of any ewar, the only mid would be a ab which is essential. So other than the dps and nice amount of low slots, having on 1 mid means in a gang like this its pointless. Obviously you can get away with it with large numbers but you would be just the dps person, not much to learn about blasting your opponents now is there Mojo Agony Empire Website Link
Rells Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2008.04.08 18:49:00 - [26] Both classes are filled to capacity. Look here for more classes in the future.
Nareg Maxence Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.04.20 15:39:00 - [27] Thanks for a great class Agony. And if anyone still thinks smartbombs is an easy counter against an organised small ship fleet, I suggest you take a look at the killboard from yesterdays class. Yarr! See you in PVP Advanced, Agony!

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