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Liang Nuren	Posted - 2008.04.02 23:26:00 - [31] Originally by: welsh wizard And can't tackle...... You know as well as I do that railboats have no need to tackle. :) -Liang -- Naturally, I do not in any way speak for my corp or alliance.
welsh wizard	Posted - 2008.04.02 23:34:00 - [32] Edited by: welsh wizard on 02/04/2008 23:34:56 And have no need to tank in fleet beyond a plate or two and a dcu. --------------- you all smell!
Zoprano	Posted - 2008.04.02 23:45:00 - [33] Originally by: welsh wizard edit: Also which Caldari railboats get to "stuff" their lows with MFS apart from a Rokh? Even if they do they still do less damage than their Gallente equivalents. The Vulture for example. Fit it with an active tank, 1-2 tracking comps, 3 damage mods and you have a decent PvE ship that can effectively solo lvl 4's. It hits with antimatter at about 35k.
AstroPhobic	Posted - 2008.04.02 23:47:00 - [34] Edited by: AstroPhobic on 02/04/2008 23:48:15 Originally by: welsh wizard Originally by: Arthur Frayn Originally by: welsh wizard Originally by: Zoprano - Bonus for hybrid damage but with only 5 hardpoints you need to fit damagemods to get even half decent damage. This you can't do without giving up your tank... The fact that this is an issue for you amuses me, all the Caldari railboats have been like this for about 4 years. That's an interesting opinion, as Caldari railboats can stuff their lowslots with damage mods and keep all their midslots for shield tanking. And can't tackle...... Caldari Railboats need to tackle? edit: beaten by liang
Arthur Frayn	Posted - 2008.04.03 00:22:00 - [35] Originally by: welsh wizard Edited by: welsh wizard on 02/04/2008 23:37:03 And have no need to tank in fleet beyond a plate or two and a dcu. edit: Also which Caldari railboats get to "stuff" their lows with MFS apart from a Rokh? Even if they do they still do less damage than their Gallente equivalents. All of the Caldari railboats can do this. The Moa, the Ferox, the Eagle, and the Vulture can all fit three magstabs, which is the msot effective number any ship should fit. Of course they do less damage, but they make up for it with MOAR TANK! Please tell me you're not trying to complain that Caldari are underpowered. -- Eve needs a dose of Top Gun without the sweaty shower scenes.
Helios Hyperion Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.04.03 00:34:00 - [36] ya.. apparently they can't spidertank with megathrons well enough... oh my god
Liang Nuren Black Sea Industries Insurgency	Posted - 2008.04.03 00:34:00 - [37] Originally by: welsh wizard Edited by: welsh wizard on 02/04/2008 23:37:03 And have no need to tank in fleet beyond a plate or two and a dcu. Yeah... numerically, fleets are all about DPS vs EHP. Glad there's more to Eve than the numbers. -Liang PS: It never hurts to have the numbers on your side. -- Naturally, I do not in any way speak for my corp or alliance.
Liang Nuren Black Sea Industries Insurgency	Posted - 2008.04.03 00:35:00 - [38] Originally by: welsh wizard edit: Also which Caldari railboats get to "stuff" their lows with MFS apart from a Rokh? Even if they do they still do less damage than their Gallente equivalents. Hm, the Ferox, Moa, and Eagle come to mind. IIRC, they may need to stuff the lows with MFS's and RCU's though. :-/ -Liang -- Naturally, I do not in any way speak for my corp or alliance.
Sodium Phosphate Ganja Labs	Posted - 2008.04.03 00:51:00 - [39] /signed, Whats the point in having a ship with such a limited role and play-style?
Effei Gloom eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.04.03 02:03:00 - [40] /signed I would like to see bandwith mods released to the market. So Eos pilots can decide if they want to abandon slots for more heavy drones. In fact i thought the introduction of bandwith was made for that. * 19th EVE-screenshot-detail competition * * eve-online sell forum * * running now * * prize: 100mill isk up for graps *
ori16	Posted - 2008.04.03 04:18:00 - [41] I disagree sorry mate but right now the Eos is 1 of the hard hitting CS in game and its for gang bonus Duh... it dose not need a drone booste improve skills in gunnery/spaceshipcommand tend to help matters ori16
Bellum Eternus Death of Virtue Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.04.03 05:42:00 - [42] The ship is destroyed. It really is simply useless. Instead of worrying about it, just skip it, train up for an entirely new race and move on. Heck, if you can already fly an Eos, all you need to do is just train up Cruiser 5 in any of the other three races and you have instant access to their CS and FCS. That's only 30 days or so max of training, which if you're already max skilled for an Eos is nothing to you. Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y I I
Sareem Gilbert's Feed Industries Lda	Posted - 2008.04.03 10:48:00 - [43] Originally by: Bellum Eternus The ship is destroyed. It really is simply useless. Instead of worrying about it, just skip it, train up for an entirely new race and move on. Heck, if you can already fly an Eos, all you need to do is just train up Cruiser 5 in any of the other three races and you have instant access to their CS and FCS. That's only 30 days or so max of training, which if you're already max skilled for an Eos is nothing to you. I know, and the fact is that i'm not slightly worried about changing race and all. Thing is, I prefer to look at EVE ignoring (as much as possible) it's technical facts, i'm not a PVPer and coulnd't care less if it's got 1 more dps than the almighty ship of doom and pwnd everyone in the same region by the touch of a button. I just fell in love with the ship, and like to explore around complexes in a shinny EOS. But I believe it could at least be as good as the Ishtar dronewise, after all, it's a creodron ship, and both Ishtar and Domi make the EOS hide in shame when talking about drones. Maybe I'm not using the EOS for it's proper function as a link platform, but heck, who doesn't use ships out of it's function? I wonder who, besides new players (who don't have skills for better ships yet), use destys as frigate hunting platforms instead of salvage vessels. As said also, I look forward too for tech 2 Myrms, but this ship still can't be beat on style ;)
Dahak2150 Chaos Monkeys	Posted - 2008.04.03 12:09:00 - [44] No.
Euriti SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.04.03 14:36:00 - [45] I agree. What's the point of the +dronebay space when you can only have 75m3 out at a time ?
Annowyn Clan'Destine	Posted - 2008.04.03 14:55:00 - [46] Originally by: Sodium Phosphate /signed, Whats the point in having a ship with such a limited role and play-style? That is exactly the point. Your post boggles my mind in ways that I cannot proerly formulate a response.
Samirol Love is Hate	Posted - 2008.04.03 15:45:00 - [47] The problem really is that it shouldn't be a drone boat at all. It should be a de-clawed astarte. 5 turret HP Non-neutron friendly PG 50m3 drone bay and bandwidth BC Bonus: Damage, Rep boost CS Bonus: Fall-off or damage, Gang bonus. Might be too similar to the Vulture, but that's what it should look like IMO.
Minerva Vulcan The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon	Posted - 2008.04.03 16:10:00 - [48] Originally by: Annowyn It is not supose to be in line with an Ishtar. Fail. This.
SteelFist	Posted - 2008.04.03 17:38:00 - [49] I do indeed want the bandwidth to be what it was. I would love to have the drones back but i do agree it was a bit too over powered. Id say if 2 turrets got yanked would be ok. There certainly arnt enough drone ships ingame.
Emperor D'Hoffryn No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2008.04.03 18:40:00 - [50] Only thing the EOS could really use is changing the drone bay size bonus. Just give it the static drone bay size it has at max skill, then give it a bonus to help with tanking or something. More DPS it does not need. Originally by: Meridius Dex I could actually fit a Thorax WITH LASERS and get better DPS, better speed, better tank and - wait for it - better cap stability
Anaalys Fluuterby Perkone	Posted - 2008.04.03 18:53:00 - [51] Originally by: Zoprano - Bonus for drone bay size while its baysize is the least of its problems. Unlike the Claymore which doesn't get any damage bonus at all from its secondary weapons Quote: - Bonus for hybrid damage but with only 5 hardpoints you need to fit damagemods to get even half decent damage. This you can't do without giving up your tank. Hmmm, again kindof like the Claymore which has a bonus to projectiles but can only fit 5 guns. Guess that makes sense since they are both FLEET command ships. Originally by: Audri Fisher On the other, the emo tears being cryed in this thread tell me that just because you shoot somebody for a living, does not mean you aren't a carebear
Zoprano	Posted - 2008.04.03 22:02:00 - [52] Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby Originally by: Zoprano - Bonus for drone bay size while its baysize is the least of its problems. Unlike the Claymore which doesn't get any damage bonus at all from its secondary weapons Indeed, the bonuses of the Eos are all over the place. Split bonuses are bad. Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby Originally by: Zoprano - Bonus for hybrid damage but with only 5 hardpoints you need to fit damagemods to get even half decent damage. This you can't do without giving up your tank. Hmmm, again kindof like the Claymore which has a bonus to projectiles but can only fit 5 guns. Guess that makes sense since they are both FLEET command ships. No, very unlike the Claymore as the Claymore lets you fit 3 gyrostabs in the lows without compromising your tank. Two gunnery bonuses and a shield bonus like both the Vulture and the Claymore have is actually rather nice. So I now fly a Vulture and hopefully a Claymore soon too.
Free Mason	Posted - 2008.04.05 16:16:00 - [53] I'm failing to see how comparing the best fleet command ship to the one covered in ** is beneficial? claymore is the best of the fleet command ships combining damage and tank very effectivly. Not to mention if you really wish makes nano ships go ** all speed where as the eos makes ecm better? just happy i trained cs/fleet cs total waste of time... armageddon and mega out perform all cs's ten fold. at least with 125mbit of drones the eos can help keep the ewar ships (caldari wich need mid slots for tank and ewar ><) alive a little bit longer with shield drones. but hey 5 turrets 1 dmg bonus 5 heavy drones without bonus that would be overpowered... not like 5 turrets with damage bonusES and space for 3 missile launchers ntm same amount of drone use a Drone Boat can use...

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