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Sith99	Posted - 2008.04.05 16:37:00 - [1] I was wondering why caldari don't have any good solo ships like every other race and I came to these conclusions. Missiles have travel time, caldari ships are slow and heavy, and mids are being used for tanking while theirs no room left for scram,web,mwd. Now to fix this problem I think they should give the caracal and the cerebus the following bonuses. X% bonus to flight speed of missile (to make the missile hit instantly) and -%(X) bonus to missile flight time (to nerf the missiles long range). Now obviously this has to be looked at more but I think if missile hit like turrets this would get more ppl soloing in caldari ships. Also maybe give the missiles an optimal and falloff range to put them in line with turrets. As for speed maybe a bonus to nanos or a cap reduction in mwd. I don't know how to fix the tanking problem but maybe create shield mods that are low slot (mini shield booster or extenders) or just give some of the ships more lows for armor tank.
Yoko Lee	Posted - 2008.04.05 16:55:00 - [2] Drake can be a good solo pvp ship (ham + mwd + web + disruptor etc), blaster eagle (not the best hac for solo but not bad), Vulture (why not : 5x neutron II 2x ham II 2x mag stab II).
Garmon	Posted - 2008.04.05 16:56:00 - [3] Ferox before the boost, anything would engage you __________________________________ Garmonation - Rupture fun video
Waxau The Fated Odyssey.	Posted - 2008.04.05 17:03:00 - [4] Originally by: Garmon Ferox before the boost, anything would engage you Actually, its a formidable ship - Using 5 blasters (or nowdays 6) you can get relatively nice dps out of it. And a tank that rivals a vultures, due to having a 3rd rig slot. Never mistake the Ferox for being a bad ship :D
Dheorl The Scope	Posted - 2008.04.05 17:05:00 - [5] Please not another one of these threads. Alot of caldari ships are fine for solo PvP and most that aren't kick arse in gangs. Travel time only really matters in fleets, definatly makes no difference in solo PvP. If you give them optimal and falloff like turrets and make them hit instantly then it takes away alot of variation in the game. Caldari ships can make awsome nano ships as it is. If you gave for instance the navy caracal a bonus to the effect of speed mods of a reduction in mass or something it would out perfom pretty much every nano ship out there. Moving sheild mods to lows would again ruin all variation within the game. You may as well just make it all one tanking system. The joy of shield tanks is you have lovely amounts of room for damage and fitting mods. Yes you have to sacrifice tanking slots for tackling but you can still fit a reasonable tank half the time or you can just fly in a gang.
Garmon Genos Occidere Boner Bandits	Posted - 2008.04.05 17:13:00 - [6] Originally by: Waxau Originally by: Garmon Ferox before the boost, anything would engage you Actually, its a formidable ship - Using 5 blasters (or nowdays 6) you can get relatively nice dps out of it. And a tank that rivals a vultures, due to having a 3rd rig slot. Never mistake the Ferox for being a bad ship :D I'm not saying the Ferox is a bad ship, I think it was a very strong blaster ship even before the boost, but most people would engage a Ferox because they think it is only flown by noobs __________________________________ Garmonation - Rupture fun video
WildTurkey Muppet Industries	Posted - 2008.04.05 18:05:00 - [7] I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN..... Ships like the DRAKE are Great for Solo PVP - as are other Caldari ships - People who say different usually are the ones that have flown bad setups or killed bad setups.. With out invested Skill time its easy to not be able to fit out a Caldari ship - i have spent 8 months in skill training time just on my DRAKE to make it the best solo killer in my alliance - Also statements like "theirs no room left for scram,web,mwd" - THIS IS SIMPLE - YOU DONT NEED A MWD - WHY TRY AND PUT SPEED ON A HEAVY ROCK your better off making it HARDER.. Putting a MWD on a Drake for example is just dumb. If you want a GOOD solo PVP ship as with any race, you need to TRAIN the skills to use the ship before getting ganked and sitting there going "if only caldari had a good solo pvp ship" ALSO if you want a missile to hit like a turret - USE A TURRET! I would not want to use anything else but missiles and have even converted 1/2 my corp to them as nothing else works in so many different fights - the right missile can kill everything (close range / long range / speed tanked etc...) I LOVE CALDARI and i have on average 15 Solo kills a week with a average of only 1 loss every 36 Kills - -- WildTurkey
xHalcyonx Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.04.05 18:15:00 - [8] Caldari. Solo. PvP. Pick two. ------------------- ნỊs uʍop əpỊsdn Support the introduction of Blaze M crystals for Amarr!
Gypsio III Darkness Inc. Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.05 18:15:00 - [9] Quote: THIS IS SIMPLE - YOU DONT NEED A MWD - WHY TRY AND PUT SPEED ON A HEAVY ROCK your better off making it HARDER.. Putting a MWD on a Drake for example is just dumb. Urgh. I wouldn't dream of not fitting a MWD on my Drake, it massively increases its tank and killing ability.
Yoko Lee	Posted - 2008.04.05 18:19:00 - [10] The drake with 7x ham II/1x 10mn mwd II, 1x lse II, 2x invul II, 1x web, 1x disruptor II/1x pds II, 1x DC II, 2x bcs II and 3x rigs shield extender work very nice.
Dheorl	Posted - 2008.04.05 18:34:00 - [11] Originally by: xHalcyonx Caldari. Solo. PvP. Pick two. 2005 just called. They want their wittyness back. Seriously though, this just isn't true and anyone who thinks it is, is a fool IMO.
Sith99 Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.04.05 19:17:00 - [12] Edited by: Sith99 on 05/04/2008 19:20:33 nvm
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2008.04.05 22:19:00 - [13] Caldari ships are not the best at solo PvP unfortunately. They're specialised, which means the combination of roles of tank, gank, tackle it's quite hard to cover. The real weakness in my opinion, is there's no PvP cruiser, that's much of a muchness - the Caracal is nice, but pretty poor solo. (Not a patch on 'rax/rupture). That doesn't mean it cannot be done by any means. Drake, Onyx, Flycatcher, Crow, Raven, Kestrel, is quite viable. You won't be able to kill everything, but nothign solo ever can. The trick is to be badder than anything faster, and faster than anything badder. You'll end up in a situation where because you're solo, you're buffer tanking, fitting a MWD, web, point, and hoping they die first. That doesn't actually put you worse off than other races alternatives. Caracal and Cerberus suffer in terms of PvP ships, but it's nothing to do with their bonuses - it's because their cap and powergrid are pretty awful, and can't cope with the rigors of 'today's EVE' which means HAMs and MWDs. If HAMs lost a bit of powergrid use, and were easier to fit, like most 'short range' weapons (or the Cerb/Caracal gained some, whatever) then they'd be quite credible PvP ships - cap out depressingly fast, but a passive tanker with capless weapons doesn't really have an issue there. 5x HAMs, MWD, LSE, 3 mids of 1grid modules, 2x BCS - if that fit on the Caracal without fittings mods, it'd be a rather nice ship -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking?
xHalcyonx Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.04.05 23:27:00 - [14] Originally by: Dheorl Originally by: xHalcyonx Caldari. Solo. PvP. Pick two. 2005 just called. They want their wittyness back. Seriously though, this just isn't true and anyone who thinks it is, is a fool IMO. Sorry, I still laugh when I see anything besides a nano-cerb, a jamming ship, or a gank raven. Everything else just makes me kind of laugh. ------------------- ნỊs uʍop əpỊsdn Support the introduction of Blaze M crystals for Amarr!
K1RTH G3RS3N Muppet Brigade	Posted - 2008.04.05 23:49:00 - [15] reading this thread is like rubbing sandpaper across my eyeballs.
xHalcyonx Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.04.06 00:33:00 - [16] Edited by: xHalcyonx on 06/04/2008 00:33:51 Originally by: K1RTH G3RS3N reading this thread is like rubbing sandpaper across my eyeballs. Welcome to the EvE-O forums.! EDIT: oraange is not a valid color. ------------------- ნỊs uʍop əpỊsdn Support the introduction of Blaze M crystals for Amarr!

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