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Cyniac
Twilight Star Rangers Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.27 15:37:00 -
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Aurel Svenson wrote:Yes, we really can. Our income grows day by day, already it's enough to make the interest several times over.
And actually, this might explain why this market's so lucrative: without looking into it everyone thinks it's impossible. We only have good skills on one character and we don't have good BPOs...
No - you can't.
The more you push the markets the more they will push back. If you are making 8% per day now you will be making half of that or less when you are at full production. (as a concept this is true for all markets, not just rigs)
Profit does not scale up linearly - which seems to be the major fallacy in your assumptions. |

Cyniac
Twilight Star Rangers Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.28 17:57:00 -
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I think you managed to convince me this is a scam in your last post. On the oddball chance you are legit I'll tell you why:
Aurel Svenson wrote:I'm not entirely sure why you guys don't understand this: we are profitable.
Emotional appeal -> sounds like goading "you guys are smarter than this come on give us money"
Aurel Svenson wrote:There's money to be had.
More of the same -> Emotional appeal, trying to goad the investor, rather than convince through a rational argument.
Aurel Svenson wrote:We don't deal in any particular market, we deal in all markets that are profitable - and there are many.
Make that three -> Guys markets are profitable we know them you'll get rich easy!
Aurel Svenson wrote:If PLEX came in 3 day quantities at 1/10 the current amount, we wouldn't be asking for a loan. We make enough in 30 days to cover our expenses - but we don't have 30 days until we need to PLEX up.
This is actually a plausible argument. until...
Aurel Svenson wrote:We don't need infinite growth, we need to expand by about 60% to cover the 2.4B interest and 5B in PLEX - and tripling our working capital and getting to PE V would almost certainly allow us to do so.
This hits. 10 accounts? Pay 8 billion most of which will be gone within days (to plex) and the rest goes to interest payments? Let me see...
You get 8 billion
in 3 days you pay 5 billion in plex
Lets be generous, say you have 1 billion in own assets.
so you have ... 8 - 5 + 1 total: 4 billion from which you would need to generate 5 billion in a month to be back where you started, or 7.4 billion to pay the interest and have the seed capital you would have now... 4 billion -> 11.4 billion in one month with suboptimal manufacturing skills while pushing a market? I'm not convinced.
There is good news for you though here it is:
If things are as good as you say they are, you don't need investors. You just need time and alts. With enough time and enough alts you will eventually be able to start to afford to plex some of your accounts which will then become more valuable which in turn allow you to fulfill your dreams...
Good luck. I keep my iskies though. |

Cyniac
Twilight Star Rangers Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.29 11:43:00 -
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Aurel Svenson wrote:Not trying to goad, I'm a little frustrated being told I'm not earning money when I'm running a profitable venture. I really hate being told by people I can't do something they know little about.
Here you go again.
I know - You guys don't know.
The moment you accept that some people other than yourself might know what they are talking about, you'll immensely increase your chances of finding partners.
You are not looking for partners right now - you are looking for open wallets. Without questioning whether or not it's legit you have to realise that it's exactly the same thing many scammers do - hence, it looks like a scam.
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