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Trathen
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Posted - 2008.04.13 17:49:00 -
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I think a reasonable conclusion is that if you have to explain the difference, they aren't going to get it. Or are lying RMT'ers.
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Trathen
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Posted - 2008.04.13 19:11:00 -
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Edited by: Trathen on 13/04/2008 19:11:32
 Originally by: Cutie Chaser
No, its irrelevant.
The claim that we still fight things which we cannot stop, rather then giving into them, just would require the example given to fit that criteria.
Rape, murder, even theft, all fit this criteria.
You just used murder as an analogy to RMT. Take some deep breaths. Now I understand using extremes to prove a point, but universal crimes don't apply to the logic.
Murder, theft, etc. are crimes with clear victims and assailants and only work on that level.
The "ethics" of trading ISK for money does not concern CCP. What concerns CCP is the nature of RMT as a macroeconomic crime. Inflation - the fact that only gold buyers can afford to twink out their characters in other games and players who do not RMT feel powerless. Server lag - the fact that farmers clog high-income areas. These things concern CCP. This makes it more comparable to the sketchy business of "white collar crime."
That you feel "cheated" because you told yourself whoever just blew you up didn't "earn" his/her ship is your problem. People feel cheated every second in EvE. I find it odd that even hardcore PvP "adapt or die" mentalities burst into tears at the thought of GTCs.
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Trathen
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Posted - 2008.04.13 19:19:00 -
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Edited by: Trathen on 13/04/2008 19:21:27
Originally by: Cutie Chaser
For the love of...
Please read my previous post. Never once did I claim murder = RMT.
I used the example of murder to indicate that it is still worthwhile to oppose something you cannot stop completely.
If this does not make the difference between these 2 things clear, maybe it is a limitation of the language.
And you should finish reading mine. I like to structure my posts so it becomes blatantly obvious someone posted a knee-jerk response after the first sentence.
But to reiterate: The comparison doesn't work because you are talking about street-crime and CCP is addressing RMT as something more comparable to white collar crime. |
Trathen
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Posted - 2008.04.13 19:28:00 -
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Edited by: Trathen on 13/04/2008 19:29:41
Originally by: Cutie Chaser
What in here warents a response? Nothing is said here that somone else hasn't already covered.
What did you expect me to respond with, a lecture on the psychology of accomplishment and game theory?.
Nothing. People simply need to understand this:
Problem: RMT is unfair because a player may not have earned his assets in-game.
Problem: RMT farming businesses ruin the in game economy by inflating it to the point where only RMT customers can afford high-end equipment.
CCP has addressed this. The former is simply irrelevant to this decision.
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Trathen
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Posted - 2008.04.13 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Karlemgne
There you go. The REAL issue.
Honestly, I'm not even going to debate about the real issue, though the question is open for it.
I'm just ******* sick of people saying "oh CCP cares about you that's why they have a GTC for isk policy."
Its a crock of ****, and obfuscates the real issue.
Not necessarily. If we were to draw parallels to games without the GTC for ISK policy, we would notice that in addition to legitimate players, there is an extremely large population of farmers - farmer who also pay subscription fees. Considering that number of subscribers is the only yardstick for measuring CCP's income irrespective of number of GTCs traded, it may also occur to you that the reduction in population by weeding out farmers may have lost CCP money. We don't know that. Neither does CCP. |
Trathen
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Posted - 2008.04.13 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Manic Smile
If you don't agree say WoW/GW/FF11 is worse off...best just go back to burying your head in the sand.
Pretty much been my view from the start. Anyone who's tried another MMORPG knows just how well CCP has done. If anyone finds a game with a more stable economy, I'd like to know. |
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