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Kraken Kill Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.04.09 20:53:00 - [61] Originally by: fugazii K25 was soon dropped, and soon invaded. D2 and the rest of the north invaded, and after 2 weeks of fighting had killed 1 tower short of having sovereignty, but in true northern fail style, they left the system on the verge of it being taken letting RK regain full control of it. Not quite. The fight had been going on for over a month for K25, when D2 came in with the rest of the north, that part lasted two weeks. They decided Pos warfare was too much hassle with us and pulled out- I suspect due to the patch about to hit where Reinforced towers still count to Sov which would leave the station fully RK controlled without having us having to siege it every other night. Also i believe we had just started to make headway in the nights to knock out other towers. Anyhow with the patch D2 went away and ER went to bwf I think. Ratel went to o-v for a while and everyone else went to Q-T.
Peoke Caldari Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.09 21:39:00 - [62] Also note the props for ending the d2 stale mate is the favor me and scooter1 called in from our buddy major riven. he brought the extra caps and support that killed the 2 er towers in tde and showed d2 that we wernt alone and had more firends piling up. what most dont relize is that favor and more were at our hands for ratel but we chose to not use em and to this day it prooved a wise move where our alliances relized eve is about fighting your wars not have others fight em for you. Thanks riven
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.09 23:17:00 - [63] Originally by: FinrodFelagund tri counter attacked trying to take BWF. Lulz. . Alliance chat is your friend.
Tyremis Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.10 01:14:00 - [64] Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Originally by: FinrodFelagund tri counter attacked trying to take BWF. Lulz. . Alliance chat is your friend. Had tri tried to take bwf it would be much longer much messier and even more lagtastic(if thats possible)than it was. just the fights were important to us and we had m!!
Raketefrau Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.10 02:07:00 - [65] I believe the OP said SHORT history. But we're in so deep now I've forgotten. Seriously though, good reading. CAOD could use more threads like this. Priority #1 - fix the lag
ManowarX Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.04.10 02:15:00 - [66] Originally by: Peoke Also note the props for ending the d2 stale mate is the favor me and scooter1 called in from our buddy major riven. he brought the extra caps and support that killed the 2 er towers in tde and showed d2 that we wernt alone and had more firends piling up. what most dont relize is that favor and more were at our hands for ratel but we chose to not use em and to this day it prooved a wise move where our alliances relized eve is about fighting your wars not have others fight em for you. Thanks riven wow only person ive ever seen who spells that horribly is that asshat gerku
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.10 05:41:00 - [67] Originally by: Tyremis Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Originally by: FinrodFelagund tri counter attacked trying to take BWF. Lulz. . Alliance chat is your friend. Had tri tried to take bwf it would be much longer much messier and even more lagtastic(if thats possible)than it was. just the fights were important to us and we had m!! Exactly!
DigitalCommunist Obsidian Core	Posted - 2008.04.10 05:46:00 - [68] Originally by: Martin Mckenna Why the hell are you posting this thread if your in SMASH. Ask in ******* alliance chat. Me thinks someone posted on the wrong character Was gonna answer seriously, until I spotted this after logging into the forums. Now I'm annoyed. I can still write you a short history of SMASH if you like, but you wouldn't feel good after. _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/
fugazii Novus Industries	Posted - 2008.04.10 06:02:00 - [69] Originally by: DigitalCommunist Originally by: Martin Mckenna Why the hell are you posting this thread if your in SMASH. Ask in ***** alliance chat. Me thinks someone posted on the wrong character Was gonna answer seriously, until I spotted this after logging into the forums. Now I'm annoyed. I can still write you a short history of SMASH if you like, but you wouldn't feel good after. On a better note though, I just noticed they fixed the no corp/alliance if not logged in bug on the forums! \o/ "There is nothing they can do to counter 5000 f***g Goons logged in and ready to go." - darius JOHNSON
Hohne Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.10 07:31:00 - [70] Originally by: fugazii Smash has 2 periods in Gem that I can comment on. ...and Post TDE, Smash came into the system and dropped 5 towers to Ratels 8(I believe). RATEL hired F-E, and Smash brought in RK. The siege lasted a bit over a month. While Ratel+F-E had overwhelmingly better efficiency, Smash and RK had more cap, and pos experiance resulting in Smash after the month+ of fighting being able to kill 2 of Ratels pos's, with Ratel killing none. The siege wasn't going anywhere quickly, so Smash dropped 35+ large towers in a single night. The system was bugged and Ratel was never notified that towers were being dropped. The war was over overnight. Ratel maintained 16 odd towers for the 3 months SMASH only had 6 in system. Ratel/F-E effeciency was poor, they lost less dreads, but that was because they only sieged twice, first time losing 3 dreads and second time the node crashed and they had their dreads moved away by GMs. We dropped 30 in one night, 6 had been up for months, there are 71 moons. All the towers were fully fitted deathstars. RATEL had a scout notice the un-anchored towers and mods freely floating in one of the existing 6 towers some time before the first one was anchored, and it didn't matter anyway, they were seriously outnumbered at the time that they were deployed (about 10:1). Only about 8 people in all of SMASH/RK knew the towers were going down, those 8 handled everything, the other 100 odd locked down the system. When it was all over, we still told no-one. RATEL knew internally before most SMASH/RK members did. RATEL's mood was fairly low at that point, for the last 3 months they hadn't killed a tower while 6 sat anchored, now they had 36 to contend with, and no possible way of removing them. (having already called in all possible friends/mercenaries). Also, you sound just a little bit bitter. There is only one ex-RATEL era guy that actually impresses me for being more action that talk, that's 'The Aegis'. Even after all this time he still comes back for some pew pew. A good clean grudge that SMASH actually deserves. Most of the others just either got over it or do nothing but whinge on the forums (even while in blue alliances renting from SMASH)
Ventro69 Caldari Manson Family SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.10 12:28:00 - [71] Then Ventro69, with his team of delinquents, Manson Family, joined. Soon there were more picnics with cake and a lot of fun was had by all.
Moon Dogg Gallente The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.04.10 16:30:00 - [72] Originally by: Hohne Originally by: fugazii Smash has 2 periods in Gem that I can comment on. ...and Post TDE, Smash came into the system and dropped 5 towers to Ratels 8(I believe). RATEL hired F-E, and Smash brought in RK. The siege lasted a bit over a month. While Ratel+F-E had overwhelmingly better efficiency, Smash and RK had more cap, and pos experiance resulting in Smash after the month+ of fighting being able to kill 2 of Ratels pos's, with Ratel killing none. The siege wasn't going anywhere quickly, so Smash dropped 35+ large towers in a single night. The system was bugged and Ratel was never notified that towers were being dropped. The war was over overnight. Ratel maintained 16 odd towers for the 3 months SMASH only had 6 in system. Ratel/F-E effeciency was poor, they lost less dreads, but that was because they only sieged twice, first time losing 3 dreads and second time the node crashed and they had their dreads moved away by GMs. We dropped 30 in one night, 6 had been up for months, there are 71 moons. All the towers were fully fitted deathstars. RATEL had a scout notice the un-anchored towers and mods freely floating in one of the existing 6 towers some time before the first one was anchored, and it didn't matter anyway, they were seriously outnumbered at the time that they were deployed (about 10:1). Only about 8 people in all of SMASH/RK knew the towers were going down, those 8 handled everything, the other 100 odd locked down the system. When it was all over, we still told no-one. RATEL knew internally before most SMASH/RK members did. RATEL's mood was fairly low at that point, for the last 3 months they hadn't killed a tower while 6 sat anchored, now they had 36 to contend with, and no possible way of removing them. (having already called in all possible friends/mercenaries). Also, you sound just a little bit bitter. There is only one ex-RATEL era guy that actually impresses me for being more action that talk, that's 'The Aegis'. Even after all this time he still comes back for some pew pew. A good clean grudge that SMASH actually deserves. Most of the others just either got over it or do nothing but whinge on the forums (even while in blue alliances renting from SMASH) Yea, Aegis is all about the pew pew! I was still a noob when we were fighting over TDE, so I wasn't able to do much more than fly around in cruisers and destroyers and die. Good times though! *********************************** "Burn the land, boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me..."
Schizoid Mox Minmatar The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.10 18:42:00 - [73] Edited by: Schizoid Mox on 10/04/2008 18:46:43 I would like to suggest the next step in the history of this alliance. Why not form a single alliance with Smash and R0adkill, it would help a lot.
Farham AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.04.10 18:59:00 - [74] "Why not form a single alliance with Smash and R0adkill, it would help a lot." Because having dealt with you both for almost a year now I can tell you the two alliances are very different. Intrepid Crossing Diplomat and Forum Operating N00b IRC - 2008 Award Winning Worst PVP Alliance in EVE
CrushProject Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.04.10 19:25:00 - [75] Originally by: Farham "Why not form a single alliance with Smash and R0adkill, it would help a lot." Because having dealt with you both for almost a year now I can tell you the two alliances are very different. amen to that! hahaha
xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.04.10 19:30:00 - [76] Yep, wardeccing smash without roadkill is a nice sploit
Bashiri Point-Zero SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.10 22:39:00 - [77] Originally by: Schizoid Mox Edited by: Schizoid Mox on 10/04/2008 18:46:43 I would like to suggest the next step in the history of this alliance. Why not form a single alliance with Smash and R0adkill, it would help a lot. Who says i want to be friends with rk
Khyara	Posted - 2008.04.10 23:31:00 - [78] I can add a bit to the history here. I admit, I didnt read the whole thread, so if its a repeat, I apologize. No wait. I dont apologize - F U for making me apologize! Anyhoo. Back in the day a little alliance formed up known as Storm Armada lead by Wraith Storm. Rumour mill had it (as I was not in the know those days - and still not now) that Wraith purchased the BWF and BND for a small fortune from a bunch of PVP'ers who had cleaned it out but didnt want to settle it. Well Storm Armada tried to settle it, and along came RK and SMASH. They decided they wanted BWF and BND for themselves. Unfortunately Storm Armada was mainly made up of n00b pilots except for 1-2 hardcore corps. The defense wasnt going too bad until a Mothership showed up (which were still rare then) and it was pretty much all over after that (old motherships were compelely immune to EWar. So the pilot would come in, blow up a bunch of ships and happily warp off. Repair damage, Rinse and repeat. There were no dictors then either) So RK with the help of Smash managed to cleanse BWF, and has pretty much owned most of Geminate since. Thats what I remember anyways being on the receiving end of that ass kicking. (Cruiser Moa ftw against a Mothership!)
fugazii Novus Industries	Posted - 2008.04.11 05:54:00 - [79] Originally by: Khyara I can add a bit to the history here. I admit, I didnt read the whole thread, so if its a repeat, I apologize. No wait. I dont apologize - F U for making me apologize! Anyhoo. Back in the day a little alliance formed up known as Storm Armada lead by Wraith Storm. Rumour mill had it (as I was not in the know those days - and still not now) that Wraith purchased the BWF and BND for a small fortune from a bunch of PVP'ers who had cleaned it out but didnt want to settle it. Well Storm Armada tried to settle it, and along came RK and SMASH. They decided they wanted BWF and BND for themselves. Unfortunately Storm Armada was mainly made up of n00b pilots except for 1-2 hardcore corps. The defense wasnt going too bad until a Mothership showed up (which were still rare then) and it was pretty much all over after that (old motherships were compelely immune to EWar. So the pilot would come in, blow up a bunch of ships and happily warp off. Repair damage, Rinse and repeat. There were no dictors then either) So RK with the help of Smash managed to cleanse BWF, and has pretty much owned most of Geminate since. Thats what I remember anyways being on the receiving end of that ass kicking. (Cruiser Moa ftw against a Mothership!) Thats not in any way true. it went TBB>MC>TBB>E-R>Storm>F-E/CI>ISS>RK/SMASH Smash and RK was nearly non-existent during storm armada's ownership, aside from the odd fleet when F-E asked peoke for backup.
Hohne Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.11 06:15:00 - [80] Originally by: fugazii Thats not in any way true. it went TBB>MC>TBB>E-R>Storm>F-E/CI>ISS>RK/SMASH Smash and RK was nearly non-existent during storm armada's ownership, aside from the odd fleet when F-E asked peoke for backup. ^ This is the correct version, RK/SMASH may have shot some things in BWF, it was F-E/CI that kicked out Storm Armada.
Draahk Chimera Caldari Monopropellant Fools	Posted - 2008.04.11 06:46:00 - [81] Few people seem to realize that the freindship between RK/Smash actually started alot earlier. When the corps that where to found RK was in Stain Alliance. SA was in war with FIX, but they didnt want their space, they just wanted to kill FIX. So the space was up for grabs. Before BoB re-re-re-re-re-re-re-set FIX to blue SA had the gates locked down in FIX station systems while Emperor and a few other Smashies achored poses. The whole thing fell apart when McBob butted in on the side of FIX, again. As far as the anchoring of 36 poses in TDE4 it wasent actually anchor-win. The poses where anchored on saturday and already sunday everyone living in Geminate suddenly had Ratel blue and was heading to TDE4. E-R, Pure., Astral Wolves and CDC are a few I remember. The fighting in o2o was pretty rough with about 40 RK in frigs fighterbombing approx 120 enemies (in waves of 40-50). When the 80 or so survivors entered TDE4 they realized there was little they could do agaisnt all them deathstars and "crashed" on safespots. Some of them logged in-harrased-"crashed" for quite a long time after while others lost their ships trying to get home.
Tayler Derden Solar Dragons SOLAR FLEET	Posted - 2008.04.11 14:19:00 - [82] Originally by: FinrodFelagund Appearntly some **** went down with RA about some 10/10 plex. RA tried to take TDE, they did not account for roadkill and got smashed. dont lie to yourself RA never tried to take TDE pos was anchored just for fun about 10\10 - you wanted something you dont deserve. thats all
Hohne Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.11 14:57:00 - [83] Originally by: Tayler Derden dont lie to yourself RA never tried to take TDE pos was anchored just for fun about 10\10 - you wanted something you dont deserve. thats all The truth is somewhere in the middle RA sent a substantial sized roaming gang the night before and had it absolutely decimated by a gang camping the gate with fighters assigned that was actually a fair bit smaller than the RA gang. The next night they sent in 8 or so capital ships with their gang and anchored a medium POS. (just one, and just a medium). It was switfly hit into reinforced and removed as soon as it came out. The 'reason' it was anchored was simply because RA's roaming gangs were being chewed up by SMASH gangs that had fighter support, RA wanted their own capital ships to even things out. It obviously wasn't a system taking step, but it was in many ways an invasion of space, and anchoring a tower in Geminate without asking RK was serious enough for them to reset RA, despite insistance from SMASH that they didn't need to. If SMASH didn't deserve it why did RA need to make an excuse to reset SMASH ? SMASH had sieged the system and several surrounding systems while RA was busy securing what they 'deserved'. RA wanted it for themselves despite not doing the work to take the system, SMASH had also previously helped Goonswarm in Could Ring without payment, this was a second time, again when it came time to pay, no payment. At the time SMASH's capital fleet was still one of the largest around, and the largest next to MC's for hire. Basically every time SMASH tried to help RA/Goons they got what they 'deserved' which was a kick in the pants from the people they were helping. 20 dreads sieging LV towers because RA were 'busy' and all of a sudden RA has the caps available to threaten to hot-drop the very caps working for them. The reality was that Goonswarm owed SMASH, and were presuring RA to let them have it, RA wanted all the 10/10's and weren't willing to even let it be run occasionally by SMASH in return for holding one of the many stations they didn't even want to hold anyway.

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