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Fitz VonHeise The New Order. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.08 20:57:00 - [1] This is not a troll thread. (Seach function seems to be down) I am interested in getting views/history on SMASH and who they are fighting and why. They seem to be a very large Alliance (In numbers) but don't have that large of space.
Anubis Xian Vertigo One	Posted - 2008.04.08 21:02:00 - [2] They Came. They Saw. They Anchored. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
Porgy Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.04.08 21:22:00 - [3] Well I can sure start it. "There once was a man with a broken keyboard and a distaste for grammar. He formed an alliance...." _______________________
Ask Unbeatable Tenacious Danes Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2008.04.08 21:24:00 - [4] In before Peoke joke- OSHI
Peoke Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.08 21:31:00 - [5] i didnt even start smash. i just fixed it in a time of need.
Princess Jodi Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2008.04.08 21:37:00 - [6] Originally by: Peoke i just fixed it in a time of need. Ouch! Sooooo close to that perfect sentence! Just one SHIFT key away. Early incarnations of the corps which became SMASH were Pirates who wanted to own space. After several unsuccessful attempts to claim some space, Peoke did indeed provide the leadership which has brought them to their current heights of glory. Let that be a lesson to all of you: no matter how badly you fail at first, you can get into 0.0 if you keep plugging away. SMASH did it the hard way: forcing out people and taking the space. Gotta give them credit for that.
ablicjiblic School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.04.08 21:49:00 - [7] Edited by: ablicjiblic on 08/04/2008 21:49:21 its near teh bottom edit:fixed broken link
Fitz VonHeise The New Order. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.08 22:01:00 - [8] Perfect... thanks.
USN CVN72 Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.04.08 22:17:00 - [9] Originally by: Peoke i didnt even start smash. i just fixed it in a time of need. Thx Peoke
Martin VanBuren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.04.08 22:23:00 - [10] to begin a history of smash, we must first resolve the pressing issue of whether or not things can be * since birth or whether they become * during the course of their life
Moridin Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.04.08 22:27:00 - [11] first version of smash. Smash V1 was a bunch happy pirates and badass pvp types. they then got a bit big and for some reason managed to mass a impressive Drednaught force. for it¦s time. however they lacked numbers to hold space. kill towers, not a problem. hold it for more than a week, not going to happen. smash v1 then was bumming around like a homeless dog making isk by blackmailing pos owners finally found themself in alliance with Stain -Alliance. (or was it Stain empire (who cares)). to take out some stuff. ( FIX but i cannot recall perfect).. when RK was formed we and smash were interested in the same reagion. however some dudes just beat us to it. so RK and Smash V.1.5 went in and took it. later on most of the old smash members had moved on or quit leaving peoke in charge and he started making smash big enoff to hold it¦s space. so that¦s the current version smash V.2 be adviced that smash V.3 will not improve on the quality of leaders spelling
Peoke Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.08 22:30:00 - [12] Well i hope the standings reset will help the mighty goons.
FinrodFelagund Rome	Posted - 2008.04.08 22:41:00 - [13] Originally by: Anubis Xian They Came. They Saw. They Anchored. HAhaAHAhAHA, that made me laugh thanks. (laugh because its true and funny at least for one period in their history)
Martin Mckenna D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.08 22:54:00 - [14] Why the hell are you posting this thread if your in SMASH. Ask in ******* alliance chat. Me thinks someone posted on the wrong character ---------------------------------------------
FinrodFelagund Rome	Posted - 2008.04.08 23:04:00 - [15] AFAIK smash were dreads for hire for a long time (and were goonswarms dread fleet for a while as well). At one time they decided they wanted to take space. TDE was picked. They fought for a while and then ended the fight by anchoring the most towers that have been anchored in a single system in a single night. (I was only there for the station taking then i took a 6 month afk or so). Appearntly some ** went down with RA about some 10/10 plex. RA tried to take TDE, they did not account for roadkill and got smashed. Don't remember how smashkill got WNM. But I was there for the taking of mj- when they fought 12(?) alliances in the drone region who had a mutual defense pact. (130man blob vs 300 man blobs were fun... specially when we were winning). Then ** was started with tri, but it wasnt coordinated so it failed and then tri counter attacked trying to take BWF. Tri is euro Smashkill is US. Needless to say tri failed miserably, and probably got frustrated with the lag (and having 4 motherships not die only due to a node crash). Think its been mostly quite ever since with the exception of their allies in the south CI. Also every other week, some alliance wardecs smashkill and camps BWF. They make a post on CAOD thinking their big stuff and waving their e-cocks. This is known as a NAST and 9 times out of 10 turns into a haha look at how much isk weve destroyed vs a try to take our space nubbins and you perform us a valubly service by giving noobs experience post.
ZenTex Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.04.08 23:14:00 - [16] I doubt Tri tried to take BWF. Other than that your short history is quite correct. I was there in WNM, but I can't remember exactly how it went. SK went there for some pewpew/capkills and ended up with WNM. There's little a sledgehammer can't fix. If you can't fix it, you need a bigger sledgehammer. If it's unfixable, blame CCP. :p
Nemphomana Lucky Hydra Corp SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.08 23:22:00 - [17] I <3 BWF.
Scarton Rome	Posted - 2008.04.09 00:29:00 - [18] if you want the early early history to smash talk to emperor. i joined rome right about the time they stopped being caps for hire due to the amount of caps alliances were getting themselves. smash was an alliance killer, they didn't have a home and destroyed alliances that don't exist anymore. after smash wanted to grow and be a super power, space was needed. i guess smash had taken geminate in the past and ratel was easy prey. after sieging towers and Ratel hiring FE to save them, smash threw up about 30 towers in 1 night to take tde. rk helped out with this and from then on did everything together. Rome left before the atlas/chaos days so i prob shouldn't comment on that history. the end The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Trask Kilraen The Older Gamers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.04.09 00:39:00 - [19] Originally by: Peoke i didnt even start smash. i just fixed it in a time of need. Jeebus Peoke... use a freaking SHIFT key. ------------------------------------------
Crackzilla The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.09 00:48:00 - [20] Edited by: ***zilla on 09/04/2008 00:48:59 minor corrections Originally by: FinrodFelagund Don't remember how smashkill got WNM. By anchoring an egg and waiting until downtime. =P Originally by: FinrodFelagund But I was there for the taking of mj- when they fought 12(?) alliances in the drone region who had a mutual defense pact. (130man blob vs 300 man blobs were fun... specially when we were winning). Absolutely great fights. I'm 100% we'd had over mj- back to imperial order etc if we could get those fights back from the madpact. But no do-overs =<. Originally by: FinrodFelagund Then **** was started with tri, but it wasnt coordinated so it failed and then tri counter attacked trying to take BWF. Simpler than that. TRI put up 1 tower for a short time in bwf to get fights. Then RK put up 2 towers in a TRI entrance system as a spur of a moment type thing to get fights. Then TRI put up 3 (?) towers in bwf to get fights etc. Mostly it was an issue of timezones versus straight up fights. Tri nailed a smashkill cap fleet. Smashkill coulda nailed a tri mothership group but the node crashed. Nothing about taking sov, mostly about something to shoot.
InSession Minmatar Mafia	Posted - 2008.04.09 01:12:00 - [21] Originally by: FinrodFelagund Also every other week, some alliance wardecs smashkill and camps BWF. They make a post on CAOD thinking their big stuff and waving their e-cocks. This is known as a NAST and 9 times out of 10 turns into a haha look at how much isk weve destroyed vs a try to take our space nubbins and you perform us a valubly service by giving noobs experience post. I think they wardec SMASH for the kills, not really for the space mate. The Geminate region is garbage
RaV1N Green Men Incorporated	Posted - 2008.04.09 01:40:00 - [22] I have to agree with the MJ- story, that fight was epic and I remember falling asleep near my computer to wake up a few hours later and rejoin the fight. Some of the most epic fleet fights I have ever seen and I still say GF to the Madpact!
FinrodFelagund Rome	Posted - 2008.04.09 01:49:00 - [23] Originally by: InSession Originally by: FinrodFelagund Also every other week, some alliance wardecs smashkill and camps BWF. They make a post on CAOD thinking their big stuff and waving their e-cocks. This is known as a NAST and 9 times out of 10 turns into a haha look at how much isk weve destroyed vs a try to take our space nubbins and you perform us a valubly service by giving noobs experience post. I think they wardec SMASH for the kills, not really for the space mate. The Geminate region is garbage that it is! Im just saying they wave their e-cocks aroudn on caod thinking that "they hurt" smashkill and talk about killboard stats and smash says they mean nothing until you try and take their space. Thats what a NAST thread is.
Peoke Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.09 01:51:00 - [24] there was a stint with iron vs pa. we took vale. took station in cache. took fix outpost. took couple in paragon. lots of stuff burried deep down. Main thing thats stayed is weve never bowed down to no one.
FinrodFelagund Rome	Posted - 2008.04.09 01:54:00 - [25] Originally by: RaV1N I have to agree with the MJ- story, that fight was epic and I remember falling asleep near my computer to wake up a few hours later and rejoin the fight. Some of the most epic fleet fights I have ever seen and I still say GF to the Madpact! If smashkill took out weaker alliances/coalitions once a month like that, they would have a much larger ACTIVE memberbase...
RaV1N Green Men Incorporated	Posted - 2008.04.09 02:00:00 - [26] Originally by: FinrodFelagund Originally by: RaV1N I have to agree with the MJ- story, that fight was epic and I remember falling asleep near my computer to wake up a few hours later and rejoin the fight. Some of the most epic fleet fights I have ever seen and I still say GF to the Madpact! If smashkill took out weaker alliances/coalitions once a month like that, they would have a much larger ACTIVE memberbase... OK I think you are selling some alliances short there(or I miss understood you), granted Frege got gang banged. As for the others they simply got tired of reinforcing towers and killing SmashKill only to log on and find their US TZ fleet had been decimated and no towers were destroyed. I don't think they were weak and they came with guns blazing for an entire week (Which took up all of my time off). No, what really let them down was not their coalition or Frege for that matter, it was IO giving out POS passwords and then reseting it without telling their allies who logged in some hours later and were killed by RK. And that happened a few times as I recall.....
Wesley Baird D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.09 02:11:00 - [27] Originally by: FinrodFelagund Then **** was started with tri, but it wasnt coordinated so it failed and then tri counter attacked trying to take BWF. Tri is euro Smashkill is US. Needless to say tri failed miserably, and probably got frustrated with the lag (and having 4 motherships not die only due to a node crash). Think its been mostly quite ever since with the exception of their allies in the south CI. This is so completely wrong, I dont even know where to begin...but if you believe this to be true, convo me in game and I will enlighten you some facts....or leave it as the pure troll it appears to be. Perhaps you should leave the topic to things you know about, and at least leave the smacktard talk to people who were there...
FinrodFelagund Rome	Posted - 2008.04.09 02:20:00 - [28] Originally by: RaV1N Originally by: FinrodFelagund Originally by: RaV1N I have to agree with the MJ- story, that fight was epic and I remember falling asleep near my computer to wake up a few hours later and rejoin the fight. Some of the most epic fleet fights I have ever seen and I still say GF to the Madpact! If smashkill took out weaker alliances/coalitions once a month like that, they would have a much larger ACTIVE memberbase... OK I think you are selling some alliances short there(or I miss understood you), granted Frege got gang banged. As for the others they simply got tired of reinforcing towers and killing SmashKill only to log on and find their US TZ fleet had been decimated and no towers were destroyed. I don't think they were weak and they came with guns blazing for an entire week (Which took up all of my time off). No, what really let them down was not their coalition or Frege for that matter, it was IO giving out POS passwords and then reseting it without telling their allies who logged in some hours later and were killed by RK. And that happened a few times as I recall..... While bumping an afk dread out of a POS and blowing it up was an absolute blast, what killed them was they brought carebear ships like ravens and drakes to fleet fights and jumped in on a sniper force ready to blow them up with upwards of 300 people, and then not siege pos's. They then fueled their dreads at the enemy pos's and got their stront cans blown up, so they could not continue to siege. There was 23/7 scans of a system no larger then 10au, and mad pactians safespotted more often then they sat in their posses. (for whatever reason). If those 12 alliances were one under undivided leadership that had a clue, they would not be weak. But as 12 different alliances with no leadership and no clue they were a very weak alliance.
USN CVN72 Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.04.09 03:07:00 - [29] Edited by: USN CVN72 on 09/04/2008 03:07:56 Originally by: Wesley Baird Originally by: FinrodFelagund Then **** was started with tri, but it wasnt coordinated so it failed and then tri counter attacked trying to take BWF. Tri is euro Smashkill is US. Needless to say tri failed miserably, and probably got frustrated with the lag (and having 4 motherships not die only due to a node crash). Think its been mostly quite ever since with the exception of their allies in the south CI. This is so completely wrong, I dont even know where to begin...but if you believe this to be true, convo me in game and I will enlighten you some facts....or leave it as the pure troll it appears to be. Perhaps you should leave the topic to things you know about, and at least leave the smacktard talk to people who were there... Ding Ding USN Arriving. I completely agree with Wesley Baird I fully endorse the information that he states. Tri absolutely did not intend to take BWF. If you want furthur information regarding the Tri vs SmashKill in BWF please convo me and i will share some information with you. Ding Ding USN Departing.
Hohne Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.09 03:22:00 - [30] MJ- was pretty epic, what was mostly SMASH and RK with a small Atlas alliance vs 13 odd other alliances. Just about everyone totally wrote SMASHKILL off and told them what fools they were for attacking the almighty 'MADPACT'. There were some quite epic fights, but the system was not owned by an alliance with the necessary experience to keep it, regardless of how much help they had. It demoralised FREGE to the point that taking NGM/9IZ was just going through the motions and bored most people ****less. (After the high of how action packed MJ- was). I had the biggest carbears in my corp get 160+ kills in MJ-, by contrast FREGE was really quiet. At the time SMASH took TDE both SMASH and RK were very very lean alliances, we were living from POS's there was PvP on the schedule 23/7. That was all that was done, login, shoot stuff. The logistics of holding space these days does require a significant industrial base though, especially when holding systems with 70+ moons. Abit of a pity really. But you can also now control vast areas of space without stations using bridges, the amount of space within a few jumps of a SMASH station is actually quite vast when you use bridges. RK/SMASH space is considered as one, but if you look on the influence map they actually work against each other when competing for territory in that area. - There are 3 sov 4 constellations in Geminate.
FinrodFelagund	Posted - 2008.04.09 04:40:00 - [31] Originally by: USN CVN72 Edited by: USN CVN72 on 09/04/2008 03:07:56 Originally by: Wesley Baird Originally by: FinrodFelagund Then ** was started with tri, but it wasnt coordinated so it failed and then tri counter attacked trying to take BWF. Tri is euro Smashkill is US. Needless to say tri failed miserably, and probably got frustrated with the lag (and having 4 motherships not die only due to a node crash). Think its been mostly quite ever since with the exception of their allies in the south CI. This is so completely wrong, I dont even know where to begin...but if you believe this to be true, convo me in game and I will enlighten you some facts....or leave it as the pure troll it appears to be. Perhaps you should leave the topic to things you know about, and at least leave the smacktard talk to people who were there... Ding Ding USN Arriving. I completely agree with Wesley Baird I fully endorse the information that he states. Tri absolutely did not intend to take BWF. If you want furthur information regarding the Tri vs SmashKill in BWF please convo me and i will share some information with you. Ding Ding USN Departing. I think both of you pass off those skirmish's as just toying with eachother because otherwise they would be emberassing to your respective alliances. Both RK and Tri scores massive morale blows to eachother IMHO. Both decided risk did not outweigh any rewards, and both decided it would be lag** fests and massive losses. But I could be wrong. Thats all I have to say on the topic, because if I say anything else, I'll sound more troll like then I want to, when (I will say it in first person since you guys will just say it anyway) I have no clue or first hand experience in any of the tri vs smashkill anyway.
Big Poppi	Posted - 2008.04.09 04:43:00 - [32] this explains it all http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd115/mr33824/peoke1.jpg
Attak	Posted - 2008.04.09 05:07:00 - [33] Here follows a history of FREGE vs SMASH: The first time I encountered SMASH was when they were helping kick out NORAD in OR, being the hired dread force for goons afaik. After they were done there, they were given a contract by GAIA alliance who just happened to be fighting FREGE 1.0. At that point having 6 active dreads was a pretty big deal, and FREGE couldn't counter it with the few carriers we had. After having fought GAIA for over a month straight in north Placid and Pure Blind the destruction of our 0.0 towers was a fatal blow to us and soon afterwards our leadership broke down and the alliance went into hibernation. After that SMASH went on as hired cap pilots to help out goons a couple more times I believe, before they began to eye TDE which was held by Ratel Alliance. Ratel put up a very good fight but after weeks of fighting SMASH POS spammed the system and settled down, with RK following suit shortly thereafter. Many of SMASH's old timers departed around that time, and soon they found themselves bloated with noobs and facing pressure from various holders of BWF including ESA and ER, however as BWF changed hands and eventually fell to the crubling ISS RK came in and took it for good, thus solidifying the RK/SMASH control of the region. Sometime after that they became part of the Coalition and sent some fleets down to help out Goons on the condition that once LV was destroyed they would have full access to one of the 10/10 complexes there. One of SMASH's newer members then proceeded to scam RA on a mothership deal, and RA began to send PVPers to Geminate and drop a few towers. The deal was off, and SMASH pulled back to kick out the RA task force before beginning to look for other targets. At that point FREGE 2.0 had established itself in NGM and was busy becoming stuffed with noobs and carebears, so we were a pretty tempting target and began to get visits from SMASH/RK every day or so. FREGE leadership was friends with the leadership of Imperial Order who were our residents, however they set up an outpost nearby in MJ and became members of the MAD Pact. There were a few scuffles in the drone regions after that (including FREGE dismantling Ratel) which SMASH was involved with sometimes, but mostly they liked to raid FREGE and IRC who had moved in south of us. IO unfortunately was a pretty small alliance and their system holding towers were less than desirable, so with the simple aim of getting some good fights (as far as we could tell), SMASH invaded them and the MJ debacle began. MAD Pact was summoned on behalf of IO, and we got varying levels of commitment to help fight off SMASH. We were pleasently surprised with Invictus resetting them, and for the first few days combined IRC/IVC/FREGE/OXIDE fleets made some good progress in retaking the system. But the MAD leadership was fractured, and about then Bodycollector who was the charismatic leader of the whole thing went AWOL. IVC was convinced that we would lose against them if we didn't get more numbers, and as soon as SMASHKILL seiged a couple of their towers, and they lost a few caps, they pulled out. This left MAD with a serious FC deficit and we lost control of the system as other MAD members pulled out to leave FREGE and a few close friends licking their wounds, wondering why all the alliances of MAD couldn't seem to run a fleet. RK took MJ and FREGE began to look for a way to take it back. At the same time several offers were put on the table mediated by Goons, who wanted both parties back in the fight against BoB. Both sides rejected the offer for one reason or another, and then FREGE launched a counter attack against MJ with xxdeathxx, which went fairly well, but was not sustainable due to our terrible logistics.
Attak	Posted - 2008.04.09 05:07:00 - [34] reserved
PsychoBones	Posted - 2008.04.09 05:12:00 - [35] Edited by: PsychoBones on 09/04/2008 05:12:20 Originally by: InSession Originally by: FinrodFelagund Also every other week, some alliance wardecs smashkill and camps BWF. They make a post on CAOD thinking their big stuff and waving their e-cocks. This is known as a NAST and 9 times out of 10 turns into a haha look at how much isk weve destroyed vs a try to take our space nubbins and you perform us a valubly service by giving noobs experience post. I think they wardec SMASH for the kills, not really for the space mate. The Geminate region is garbage The part that surprises me most is e-cocks isn't filtered out ________________________________________ Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Cruel SOAB	Posted - 2008.04.09 06:54:00 - [36] That's one quality post there Attak! Very nice read and by the looks of it pretty accurate as well.
Emperor	Posted - 2008.04.09 07:03:00 - [37] From the start, ROME and UNKNOWN SHOE corp's started working together in Stain killing Stain Alliance/Empire (they switched names back and fourth a few times, so whatever they were calling themselves at the time, we were killing them). Unknown Shoe had been members of Curse Coalition and ROME was a member of Curse Alliance, so joining forces to kill Stain was just logical. We both were based in the back end of Stain, and shut down SA operations in that entire section of the region. At that point, Curse coalition had fallen apart when Duke left the game, and CA kicked ROME out for not being part of the main CA fleets (even thought we were killing far more SA and keeping them occupied in their own space than almost any other CA corp). We kept working together and as time progressed, ROME and SHOE got more skilled in our abilities and started to take over stations in Esoteria for fun since the residents would no longer fight us, and we wanted to provoke a fight. Around the time we took over Esoteria, one of the pilots in ROME (Arctic Wolf) got one of the first dreadnoughts in the game for himself, and we tried brining it into the Sanshas 10/10 plex in Esoteria, which nobody had been able to run with only regular ships at that point. ROME and SHOE became the only 2 corps with the ability to run the Sansha plexs for a long long time, and gained alot of money from doing so. This new wealth gave us the ability to increase our attacks on anyone we wanted to. We expanded our horizons and returned to CA but were not very happy with it, and Snoy (the leader of Unknown Shoe) came up with the idea that if we were to ever form our own alliance, we would call it SMASH because it was just a funny name that nobody could take seriously. CA kicked both ROME and SHOE out (again) when we refused to hand over the stations that we had defended by ourselves without the help of the CA fleet for months to the CA holding corp that wanted to tax us without providing us any support. ROME and SHOE then moved back home to Stain and found a new ally in The Smite Brotherhood. With Smite, the early (and still un-offical) SMASH continued to kill SA members and soon ROME, SHOE, and SMITE were acting like we were all 1 big corp, with all of us sharing voice comms and all of the members knowing each other very closley. By this point, A member of SMASH (whos name I wont mention unless he wants me to, for his privacy) got a vagabond BPO, which only made us all the richer along with the 10/10 money, so we spent the ISK to go offical and make SMASH. ROME SHOE and SMITE then attacked Paragon Soul, and managed to take it away from SA even though the odds were stacked so heavily against us due to insider help from SA as well as the great distance the SA members had to travel to defend Paragon Soul from our attacks every night. This was right before the patch where Soverignty decides who owns space, so we could take it without needing dreads or POS spamming. SMASH was lied to and tricked by the SA leadership, who promissed us Period Basis in return for us giving them back Paragon Soul, even though they did not have BOB's permission to offer us Period Basis. SMASH was screwed over and knew that with the sov patch, we would be forced out due to ISK issues, so we pulled all our towers down and removed all our assests before the patch without SA knowing, and continued to kill the from the NPC statoins in Stain. Then we helped the ex-CA members invade Outer Ring, then came back and helped SA (mainly the early RoadKill corps) invade FIX space. We were offered residence in Esoteria and lived there for a while to build up our dread fleet, and then became a dread-for-hire group, who helped GOONSWARM out when 99% of their pilots were in frigates, and also helped destroy a few other smaller alliances and random corps. After that, we returned to where SMASH had first deployed POS's on a whim, Geminate. We found RATEL in our old part of space we had always....
FinrodFelagund	Posted - 2008.04.09 07:06:00 - [38] Edited by: FinrodFelagund on 09/04/2008 07:06:11 Originally by: Emperor From the start, ROME and UNKNOWN SHOE corp's started working together in Stain killing Stain Alliance/Empire (they switched names back and fourth a few times, so whatever they were calling themselves at the time, we were killing them). Unknown Shoe had been members of Curse Coalition and ROME was a member of Curse Alliance, so joining forces to kill Stain was just logical. We both were based in the back end of Stain, and shut down SA operations in that entire section of the region. At that point, Curse coalition had fallen apart when Duke left the game, and CA kicked ROME out for not being part of the main CA fleets (even thought we were killing far more SA and keeping them occupied in their own space than almost any other CA corp). We kept working together and as time progressed, ROME and SHOE got more skilled in our abilities and started to take over stations in Esoteria for fun since the residents would no longer fight us, and we wanted to provoke a fight. Around the time we took over Esoteria, one of the pilots in ROME (Arctic Wolf) got one of the first dreadnoughts in the game for himself, and we tried brining it into the Sanshas 10/10 plex in Esoteria, which nobody had been able to run with only regular ships at that point. ROME and SHOE became the only 2 corps with the ability to run the Sansha plexs for a long long time, and gained alot of money from doing so. This new wealth gave us the ability to increase our attacks on anyone we wanted to. We expanded our horizons and returned to CA but were not very happy with it, and Snoy (the leader of Unknown Shoe) came up with the idea that if we were to ever form our own alliance, we would call it SMASH because it was just a funny name that nobody could take seriously. CA kicked both ROME and SHOE out (again) when we refused to hand over the stations that we had defended by ourselves without the help of the CA fleet for months to the CA holding corp that wanted to tax us without providing us any support. ROME and SHOE then moved back home to Stain and found a new ally in The Smite Brotherhood. With Smite, the early (and still un-offical) SMASH continued to kill SA members and soon ROME, SHOE, and SMITE were acting like we were all 1 big corp, with all of us sharing voice comms and all of the members knowing each other very closley. By this point, A member of SMASH (whos name I wont mention unless he wants me to, for his privacy) got a vagabond BPO, which only made us all the richer along with the 10/10 money, so we spent the ISK to go offical and make SMASH. ROME SHOE and SMITE then attacked Paragon Soul, and managed to take it away from SA even though the odds were stacked so heavily against us due to insider help from SA as well as the great distance the SA members had to travel to defend Paragon Soul from our attacks every night. This was right before the patch where Soverignty decides who owns space, so we could take it without needing dreads or POS spamming. SMASH was lied to and tricked by the SA leadership, who promissed us Period Basis in return for us giving them back Paragon Soul, even though they did not have BOB's permission to offer us Period Basis. SMASH was screwed over and knew that with the sov patch, we would be forced out due to ISK issues, so we pulled all our towers down and removed all our assests before the patch without SA knowing, and continued to kill the from the NPC statoins in Stain. Then we helped the ex-CA members invade Outer Ring, then came back and helped SA (mainly the early RoadKill corps) invade FIX space. We were offered residence in Esoteria and lived there for a while to build up our dread fleet, and then became a dread-for-hire group, who helped GOONSWARM out when 99% of their pilots were in frigates, and also helped destroy a [deleted so i had space to type] WALL OF TEXT, wow I used to think peoke was the master, but you just put peoke to shame.
Emperor	Posted - 2008.04.09 07:10:00 - [39] wanted to claim as our own. (somewhere before this we invaded Vale of the Silent, and lived in Tribute killing off FE for a while, but it has been so long I have forgotten where that fit into SMASH history, but ROME, SHOE, and SMITE were the only 3 corps really there for that). Anyway, we found RATEL sitting in the space we wanted, and went ahead and warned them to not put up an outpost, and that we wanted to be friends, but that they couldn't have an outpost. The leadership of RATEL said they wanted to be friends too and they wouldn't do anything without talking to us first, and then went behind our backs and deployed the outpost the next day. SMASH started attacking them, and soon after that ROADKILL switched from being RATEL's friends to aiding SMASH in killing RATEL. The fight was about 7 various alliances vs. SMASHKILL, but due to the huge amounts of ISK SMASH still had from before, and the number of dedicated pilots in both SMASH and ROADKILL, we were able to organize a massive POS spam of the system and take over 50% of the moons after we had stalemated with RATEL and their allies over a long amount of time. This is pretty much when I stepped down from being the leader of SMASH and Peoke took over, so after this point, he would be a better source of info than I am, but I do want to make sure it is known that when RED deployed POS's in TDE4, SMASH's home system, we told Roadkill that they didn't have to get involved and that it was our issue with RED and that we don't expect RK to put themselves in harms way to defend us, and the next thing I knew was RK's offical announcement on the forums that RK had reset RED and would be backing SMASH in every way, and RK has my eternal respect for doing that. Ever since SMASH and RK have been attached at the hip. Thanks guys. SMASHKILL forever!
Hohne	Posted - 2008.04.09 07:15:00 - [40] Originally by: Attak After that SMASH went on as hired cap pilots to help out goons a couple more times I believe, before they began to eye TDE which was held by Ratel Alliance. Ratel put up a very good fight but after weeks of fighting SMASH POS spammed the system and settled down, with RK following suit shortly thereafter. Many of SMASH's old timers departed around that time, and soon they found themselves bloated with noobs and facing pressure from various holders of BWF including ESA and ER, however as BWF changed hands and eventually fell to the crubling ISS RK came in and took it for good, thus solidifying the RK/SMASH control of the region. SMASH's old timers didn't leave SMASH until over a year later when Rome joined Rare Faction and was given space up north. When SMASH took TDE, there was only a handful of corps in it. With about 80 members AFY was actually the biggest, while Rome provided most of the capital power. VTIL/AFY/Splinter Syndicate/TFUNK provided alot of the lifting gruntwork. This was back in the day where you actually could take real space with a few hundred people all allies accounted for. No jammers, no titans. RK put up the K25 outpost before BWF/8MG was taken, and K25 was even fought over by E-R/D2/CDC/Pure/MM/Razor vs SMASH+RK, some quite epic battles there, and much use of the old dive bombing fighters assigned shuttles/frigs etc to kill caps. ISS surrendered BWF/8MG within about 2 days, there wasn't a real battle for it, it was supposed to be something to do, and in that way a failure. Quote: so we were a pretty tempting target and began to get visits from SMASH/RK every day or so. Targets = good. At the same time SMASH went to help RA Pure. was Napped, RK/SMASH took control of the bit of Geminate previously annexed by CDC/Pure, this was before ISS had settled BWF though. SMASH was in the JV1V fight, and still helping Goonswarm siege so they could siege 23x7 as RA weren't always available. We got as far as towers claiming sov in 77S before UAxDeath got himself scammed by an ex-member of SMASH who was only in the alliance for a few weeks. Quote: IO unfortunately was a pretty small alliance and their system holding towers were less than desirable, so with the simple aim of getting some good fights (as far as we could tell) SMASH +RKinvaded them The paint was drying on the WNM outpost and RK was getting jealous. That and there were small and offline towers in a system with few moons. Quote: We were pleasently surprised with Invictus resetting them, and for the first few days combined IRC/IVC/FREGE/OXIDE IRC/ED/IVC/FREGE/XXDeath/DMC/Oxide/IRON Actually all of the drone regions based alliances except for MH/Ka-Tet and I think Ro3.
Vile rat	Posted - 2008.04.09 07:27:00 - [41] Ding ding terrible gimmick approaching! The only thing I regret is that I will no longer be able to "Peokedrop" new directors in game. Ding ding terrible gimmick departing! Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Hohne	Posted - 2008.04.09 07:37:00 - [42] Originally by: Attak After pulling back we began to try and figure out a way to keep SMASHKILL at bay, though things were looking good since they'd pulled back to deploy up north against the pets BoB had installed. It took them about three days to overwhelm MPIRE, FATAL, ect and then they were back in NGM, having a grudge against us for trying to take back MJ. Razor / MM were doing pretty well against MPIRE/FATAL but when SMASHKILL (including Chaos/Atlas at this stage) arrived they (M.PIRE/FATAL) pretty much surrendered right away. (We'd been up there before and pretty effectively killed a heap of carriers when Razor were retaking their space / kicking out Anarchy Empire/CoW etc, they didn't seem to want a repeat.) Quote: FLA was also in the middle of falling apart after their space had been taken by MC, and some of their corps formed either Atlas or CI, I don't honestly remember. So at that point FREGE had only xxdeathxx to help them out (and they did a very good job with what they had), but were were fighting SMASH, RK, Ka-tet, Atlas, Chaos Incarnate, Te-ka and with some Pure and AoD tagging along. RECON also had a contract against us and shut down our empire supply lines. Some timeline issues here, FLA had formed Atlas and taken up with Chaos Incarnate deploying the M3 outpost in 87- weeks before SMASH had even deployed the WNM outpost, and fought a war with Pure. over it. MJ- wasn't taken until after the WNM outpost was deployed. By the time NGM/9IZ was moved on it was Chaos/Atlas/SMASH/RK/Ka-tet. There was no real contest, with xxdeath just trying to kill caps (and losing many themselves). Alot of people remembered MJ- but were dissapointed, enthusiasm and thus numbers were high enough to ensure there wasn't going to be a fight. Even then the whole thing was very much spur of the moment for SMASHKILL, even Peoke didn't know that we were going to be taking FREGE's space until after the first tower was down (as the cyno jammer was found offline etc). We were just discussing before that how good it was to have targets, something diminished slightly with FREGE's demise (though IRC stepped up more in response). Quote: After that FREGE went to fill the void of Cloud Ring after TRI had killed YouWhat, and SMASH went on to mess with a few other drone regions alliances before going to Fountain and failing miserably. Lately they've been exchanging smack with TRI and trying to keep the Russians back, who are attacking Chaos Incarnate in the outposts FREGE used to own. OXIDE died after that, Atlas getting their space to complete the space holdings. SMASH went to Fountain right as RA started shooting Atlas/CI heavily, at the same time Goonswarm stopped their offensive completely, MC took a break from attacking. It left BoB fairly clear to camp their cyno jammer with 3 titans. We didn't even go to Fountain to take space originally, we just needed more experience vs titans (no one we had fought so far had one, and it was clear it wouldn't remain that way). Y2-ANO needed someone to drop towers and one of the corps in SMASH said they wanted to, so there they went. It was really a pretty half arsed effort, with some RK involvment, some SMASH involvment, but no real SMASHKILL involvement, no one really wanted to go 60+ jumps to fight when there was stuff to fight closer. The reality was we actually lost less 'failing' in Fountain that we usually do in a typical success. It was only a pair of weeks before MM said they wanted to spam towers instead, and at the time they did Goons/MC/IAC etc started to work together and push BoB on their other fronts, making keeping Y2- harder.
NokNok	Posted - 2008.04.09 08:39:00 - [43] Originally by: FinrodFelagund I think both of you pass off those skirmish's as just toying with eachother because otherwise they would be emberassing to your respective alliances. Both RK and Tri scores massive morale blows to eachother IMHO. Both decided risk did not outweigh any rewards, and both decided it would be lag**** fests and massive losses. But I could be wrong. Thats all I have to say on the topic, because if I say anything else, I'll sound more troll like then I want to, when (I will say it in first person since you guys will just say it anyway) I have no clue or first hand experience in any of the tri vs smashkill anyway. Your story has one flaw, as for Tri trying to take BWF ;) Tri went down to BWF with Motherships only. All other caps were ordered to stay in Deklein.
Nizar	Posted - 2008.04.09 08:45:00 - [44] Originally by: FinrodFelagund Then ** was started with tri, but it wasnt coordinated so it failed and then tri counter attacked trying to take BWF. Tri is euro Smashkill is US. Needless to say tri failed miserably, and probably got frustrated with the lag (and having 4 motherships not die only due to a node crash). Think its been mostly quite ever since with the exception of their allies in the south CI. i disagree. tri never tried to take BWF and they were never really interested in taking systems in geminate. it was just about pvp and fun. as many know smashkill and tri have some kind of weird kinky love-hate relationship... Originally by:** FinrodFelagund Also every other week, some alliance wardecs smashkill and camps BWF. They make a post on CAOD thinking their big stuff and waving their e-cocks. This is known as a NAST and 9 times out of 10 turns into a haha look at how much isk weve destroyed vs a try to take our space nubbins and you perform us a valubly service by giving noobs experience post. hehe, yep this is 100% true. and i couldnt have said it better except for the e-c**** thingy. (write e-peen next time) ;-) Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Trracer Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.04.09 09:32:00 - [45] Originally by: FinrodFelagund Also every other week, some alliance wardecs smashkill and camps BWF. They make a post on CAOD thinking their big stuff and waving their e-cocks. This is known as a NAST and 9 times out of 10 turns into a haha look at how much isk weve destroyed vs a try to take our space nubbins and you perform us a valubly service by giving noobs experience post. Very true. This has happened quite often and is always funny. From my perspective Tri has been the only "aggressor" that has had me a tad bit worried. We gained alot of experience manning POS guns during that op. Been a fun few years so far in smashkill, I started off living out of a small tower, ratting guristas in my cyclone. wipes emo tear
Darklin Eldaris Prophets Of a Damned Universe	Posted - 2008.04.09 10:47:00 - [46] Originally by: InSession I think they wardec SMASH for the kills, not really for the space mate. The Geminate region is garbage Confirming this. Note: My corp never wardecced SMASH. We just came in an owned them all un-announced like. Eventually SMASH/RK do come out with some pretty fantastic blobs, but for the first month or two it was just free loots. We used to joke about them being sort of like rats, because u kill them as often and easily and they drop equally crappy loot. If I ever come back there you guys had better be fitting t2 mods, else how am I going to pay for all the ammo I go through? All things aside, through most of the fights SMASH/RK kept it clear in local, the way it should be. Props to them for that.
Crotador Minmatar The Older Gamers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.04.09 12:23:00 - [47] Originally by: Wesley Baird Originally by: FinrodFelagund Then **** was started with tri, but it wasnt coordinated so it failed and then tri counter attacked trying to take BWF. Tri is euro Smashkill is US. Needless to say tri failed miserably, and probably got frustrated with the lag (and having 4 motherships not die only due to a node crash). Think its been mostly quite ever since with the exception of their allies in the south CI. This is so completely wrong, I dont even know where to begin...but if you believe this to be true, convo me in game and I will enlighten you some facts....or leave it as the pure troll it appears to be. Perhaps you should leave the topic to things you know about, and at least leave the smacktard talk to people who were there... I agree with Wesley here... Tri had plenty of opertunties to put more POS's up in BWF and seige more RK pos's but didn't. We had some great battles and I was really gutted about not getting on a mom kill... Not sure where the 4th Mom was... I only remember 3. 1 dissapeared 20 mins before the node crash and the other 2 were at approx 25% structure when it crashed... Massive Props to Tri for the epic fights and reasonable quality Smack from a few. I hope we get to do it again sometime... This is my forum sig. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
Wesley Baird D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.09 13:59:00 - [48] Originally by: Nizar i disagree. tri never tried to take BWF and they were never really interested in taking systems in geminate. it was just about pvp and fun. as many know smashkill and tri have some kind of weird kinky love-hate relationship... The world must be coming to an end as Nizar and I finally agree on something. I think the Tri and Smashkill have an interesting relationship, I can't say if Smashkill was making a real attempt at gaining a foothold in Dek or not, but we weren't making a play for Smashkill space and Smashkill knew it. We had some brilliant fights, and both sides got their share of ganks. I think our visit got most of the real "hate" between the two out of our collective systems... One thing Smashkill should be credited for is the strength of the relationship between the 4 groups that make up Smashkill. Given how politics works in this game, they must be given credit for standing together through several brutal meat grinders, and that is the last nice thing Im going to say about them for a very long time!
Kage Toshimado Doom Guard Soul of Fountain	Posted - 2008.04.09 15:05:00 - [49] /me was there for the battle of MJ. On the Mad Pact side. That went back and forth for days and days. Truly fun and epic. I remember the one time it taking 30 minutes to simply dock and I was 0m from the station the whole time! (what lag?) "Memories... "
Urrorur Demonic Retribution	Posted - 2008.04.09 15:31:00 - [50] Originally by: FinrodFelagund This is known as a NAST and 9 times out of 10 turns into a haha look at how much isk weve destroyed vs a try to take our space nubbins and you perform us a valubly service by giving noobs experience post. Holla!
Moon Dogg Gallente The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.04.09 16:37:00 - [51] Emperor, Nice write-up on the fight between RATEL and SMASHKill. We underestimated the amounts of ISK you had at your disposal, which you used to deploy that immense number of towers in Geminate. We never should have left that as an option, but we did. You saw a way around the stalemated POS war, took it, and the rest is history. Before that, we had several months of good fighting. *********************************** "Burn the land, boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me..."
fugazii Novus Industries	Posted - 2008.04.09 16:42:00 - [52] Smash has 2 periods in Gem that I can comment on. Pre-TDE. Smash during FOE dropped a couple towers outside of FDZ with the intent of taking that area of space. After a week or 2 of "combat" and the system being 24/7 camped by F-E, Emperor proceeded to petition us for griefing. We were contacted by a GM and told if we didn't allow Rome to pull down their towers and leave safely through P3EN-E they would "action" our accounts. They pulled their towers down and left the area. ...and Post TDE, Smash came into the system and dropped 5 towers to Ratels 8(I believe). RATEL hired F-E, and Smash brought in RK. The siege lasted a bit over a month. While Ratel+F-E had overwhelmingly better efficiency, Smash and RK had more cap, and pos experiance resulting in Smash after the month+ of fighting being able to kill 2 of Ratels pos's, with Ratel killing none. The siege wasn't going anywhere quickly, so Smash dropped 35+ large towers in a single night. The system was bugged and Ratel was never notified that towers were being dropped. The war was over overnight. K25 was soon dropped, and soon invaded. D2 and the rest of the north invaded, and after 2 weeks of fighting had killed 1 tower short of having sovereignty, but in true northern fail style, they left the system on the verge of it being taken letting RK regain full control of it. BWF/8MG was taken after CI sold the stations to ISS, ISS was quickly disposed of and Smashkill took the systems. "There is nothing they can do to counter 5000 f*****g Goons logged in and ready to go." - darius JOHNSON
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.09 17:51:00 - [53] Originally by: Attak FLA was also in the middle of falling apart after their space had been taken by MC, and some of their corps formed either Atlas or CI, I don't honestly remember. So at that point FREGE had only xxdeathxx to help them out (and they did a very good job with what they had), but were were fighting SMASH, RK, Ka-tet, Atlas, Chaos Incarnate, Te-ka and with some Pure and AoD tagging along. RECON also had a contract against us and shut down our empire supply lines. Just to clarify on the Atlas thing (I'll keep it short, seeing as this is a SMASH thread). We formed originally out of a few of the better ex-FLA corps, plus a few other various friends. We got friendly with CI while bumming around low-sec, and decided to move to 0.0 (at this point, only nodding acquaintances with SMASHKILL), CI deploying the M3 outpost for our mutual use. Had a war with PURE over it (fun times- we eventually lost it, but PURE gave us a decent settlement at the end for our troubles). Got friendly with SMASHKILL. Joined them happily on their romp into IO's territory, and helped them (where we could, still being a fairly small alliance) against MAD Pact. Helped them against FREGE. Moved into some easterly space (was it OXIDE's? I wasn't around much for that bit). Got set red by RA. Then got involved in the Ka-Tet/DMC thing. By and large, we help SMASHKILL out with anything exciting they do, and they help us out with anything exciting we do. ------ Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
Fitz VonHeise The New Order. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.09 18:31:00 - [54] Originally by: Martin Mckenna Why the hell are you posting this thread if your in SMASH. Ask in alliance chat. Me thinks someone posted on the wrong character No this is correct character... just at work and wanted something to read. And besides... there are some nice short history write ups that are not on the web site. Thanks for posting all your thoughts.
Peoke Caldari Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.09 19:53:00 - [55] For the tde pos spam. this was ratels mistake for 2 months they had 20 large pos up in system to our 5. Thier lazyness was thier down fall if ou have 20 anchor the rest and claim 50% from the start. Frege war i learned about just browsing eve-o and logged on to eve to find All of smash mobilized for me by scooter1. This means all we treid to acomplish was achieved where it didint matter who needed the fleet the fleet went. Further more if frege didnt drop a tower and have a open moon at same time we wouldnt have hit that early.
PYRO'S EX0TICDANCER	Posted - 2008.04.09 20:24:00 - [56] wanted to mention to the bugged tde that they diddnt get mail and thats why they lost the system acording to them ratel did knew it, ratel saw it and sayed it in local but couldnt do anythingh to stop it tde was mainly smash and rk was living in o2o and killing whatever came through and did pretty good most of the times its the crappy nodes that stopped poswarfare i remember a gm telling that pos warfare isnt alowed for 24 hours or 48 orso wich ratel used to online some new towers i think it wansnt tolong after that that smash decided to deploy the loads of towers after that rk dropped the k25 egg they had for a longtime by then (we had egg before rk was formed) and then the k25 invasion by the north started wich was the most funn i ever had in eve and was hpy to see k25 node was much better then the crappy tde node
Eskalin Minmatar Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.04.09 20:24:00 - [57] Originally by: Peoke there was a stint with iron vs pa. we took vale. took station in cache. took fix outpost. took couple in paragon. lots of stuff buried deep down. Main thing thats stayed is we've never bowed down to no one. Remember the time during the CODA War, I tied you up in a gimp outfit. After I had had my way with you we spooned all night. I still have the ball gag. If babies weren't to be eaten they wouldn't be hibachi sized
Oofig VanDoogan Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.04.09 20:25:00 - [58] FREGE could have been saved in NGM, or at least a good fight could have been brought for a fraction of what we spent with ra/xxdeath. But oh well, I gotta get out of this post before I get MAD AS HELL! <3 Attak ---------------------------------------------- Full circle. Sig nerfed due to is highly offensive content :( :(
Reacz Caldari Empirius Enigmus Navy Insurgency	Posted - 2008.04.09 20:31:00 - [59] Edited by: Reacz on 09/04/2008 20:34:42 Pirates > SMASH > Peoke > Drone Regions > Failure Cascade? > THE END.
Tyremis Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.09 20:39:00 - [60] Originally by: Reacz Edited by: Reacz on 09/04/2008 20:34:42 Pirates > SMASH > Peoke > Drone Regions > Failure Cascade? > THE END. This guy is clearly an expert. Weve definately lost some fights in drone but weve cleared out a lot more. Mj- was one of the most epic fleet fights ive had in Eve, several 4 year old players where telling me it was the most fun theyd ever had in eve. Id like to thank Gods Army (RK admiral) and my ceo Mars Volta for leading some of the best fleets ive been in.
Kraken Kill Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.04.09 20:53:00 - [61] Originally by: fugazii K25 was soon dropped, and soon invaded. D2 and the rest of the north invaded, and after 2 weeks of fighting had killed 1 tower short of having sovereignty, but in true northern fail style, they left the system on the verge of it being taken letting RK regain full control of it. Not quite. The fight had been going on for over a month for K25, when D2 came in with the rest of the north, that part lasted two weeks. They decided Pos warfare was too much hassle with us and pulled out- I suspect due to the patch about to hit where Reinforced towers still count to Sov which would leave the station fully RK controlled without having us having to siege it every other night. Also i believe we had just started to make headway in the nights to knock out other towers. Anyhow with the patch D2 went away and ER went to bwf I think. Ratel went to o-v for a while and everyone else went to Q-T.
Peoke Caldari Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.09 21:39:00 - [62] Also note the props for ending the d2 stale mate is the favor me and scooter1 called in from our buddy major riven. he brought the extra caps and support that killed the 2 er towers in tde and showed d2 that we wernt alone and had more firends piling up. what most dont relize is that favor and more were at our hands for ratel but we chose to not use em and to this day it prooved a wise move where our alliances relized eve is about fighting your wars not have others fight em for you. Thanks riven
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.09 23:17:00 - [63] Originally by: FinrodFelagund tri counter attacked trying to take BWF. Lulz. . Alliance chat is your friend.
Tyremis Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.10 01:14:00 - [64] Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Originally by: FinrodFelagund tri counter attacked trying to take BWF. Lulz. . Alliance chat is your friend. Had tri tried to take bwf it would be much longer much messier and even more lagtastic(if thats possible)than it was. just the fights were important to us and we had m!!
Raketefrau Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.10 02:07:00 - [65] I believe the OP said SHORT history. But we're in so deep now I've forgotten. Seriously though, good reading. CAOD could use more threads like this. Priority #1 - fix the lag
ManowarX Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.04.10 02:15:00 - [66] Originally by: Peoke Also note the props for ending the d2 stale mate is the favor me and scooter1 called in from our buddy major riven. he brought the extra caps and support that killed the 2 er towers in tde and showed d2 that we wernt alone and had more firends piling up. what most dont relize is that favor and more were at our hands for ratel but we chose to not use em and to this day it prooved a wise move where our alliances relized eve is about fighting your wars not have others fight em for you. Thanks riven wow only person ive ever seen who spells that horribly is that asshat gerku
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.10 05:41:00 - [67] Originally by: Tyremis Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Originally by: FinrodFelagund tri counter attacked trying to take BWF. Lulz. . Alliance chat is your friend. Had tri tried to take bwf it would be much longer much messier and even more lagtastic(if thats possible)than it was. just the fights were important to us and we had m!! Exactly!
DigitalCommunist Obsidian Core	Posted - 2008.04.10 05:46:00 - [68] Originally by: Martin Mckenna Why the hell are you posting this thread if your in SMASH. Ask in ******* alliance chat. Me thinks someone posted on the wrong character Was gonna answer seriously, until I spotted this after logging into the forums. Now I'm annoyed. I can still write you a short history of SMASH if you like, but you wouldn't feel good after. _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/
fugazii Novus Industries	Posted - 2008.04.10 06:02:00 - [69] Originally by: DigitalCommunist Originally by: Martin Mckenna Why the hell are you posting this thread if your in SMASH. Ask in ***** alliance chat. Me thinks someone posted on the wrong character Was gonna answer seriously, until I spotted this after logging into the forums. Now I'm annoyed. I can still write you a short history of SMASH if you like, but you wouldn't feel good after. On a better note though, I just noticed they fixed the no corp/alliance if not logged in bug on the forums! \o/ "There is nothing they can do to counter 5000 f***g Goons logged in and ready to go." - darius JOHNSON
Hohne Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.10 07:31:00 - [70] Originally by: fugazii Smash has 2 periods in Gem that I can comment on. ...and Post TDE, Smash came into the system and dropped 5 towers to Ratels 8(I believe). RATEL hired F-E, and Smash brought in RK. The siege lasted a bit over a month. While Ratel+F-E had overwhelmingly better efficiency, Smash and RK had more cap, and pos experiance resulting in Smash after the month+ of fighting being able to kill 2 of Ratels pos's, with Ratel killing none. The siege wasn't going anywhere quickly, so Smash dropped 35+ large towers in a single night. The system was bugged and Ratel was never notified that towers were being dropped. The war was over overnight. Ratel maintained 16 odd towers for the 3 months SMASH only had 6 in system. Ratel/F-E effeciency was poor, they lost less dreads, but that was because they only sieged twice, first time losing 3 dreads and second time the node crashed and they had their dreads moved away by GMs. We dropped 30 in one night, 6 had been up for months, there are 71 moons. All the towers were fully fitted deathstars. RATEL had a scout notice the un-anchored towers and mods freely floating in one of the existing 6 towers some time before the first one was anchored, and it didn't matter anyway, they were seriously outnumbered at the time that they were deployed (about 10:1). Only about 8 people in all of SMASH/RK knew the towers were going down, those 8 handled everything, the other 100 odd locked down the system. When it was all over, we still told no-one. RATEL knew internally before most SMASH/RK members did. RATEL's mood was fairly low at that point, for the last 3 months they hadn't killed a tower while 6 sat anchored, now they had 36 to contend with, and no possible way of removing them. (having already called in all possible friends/mercenaries). Also, you sound just a little bit bitter. There is only one ex-RATEL era guy that actually impresses me for being more action that talk, that's 'The Aegis'. Even after all this time he still comes back for some pew pew. A good clean grudge that SMASH actually deserves. Most of the others just either got over it or do nothing but whinge on the forums (even while in blue alliances renting from SMASH)
Ventro69 Caldari Manson Family SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.10 12:28:00 - [71] Then Ventro69, with his team of delinquents, Manson Family, joined. Soon there were more picnics with cake and a lot of fun was had by all.
Moon Dogg Gallente The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.04.10 16:30:00 - [72] Originally by: Hohne Originally by: fugazii Smash has 2 periods in Gem that I can comment on. ...and Post TDE, Smash came into the system and dropped 5 towers to Ratels 8(I believe). RATEL hired F-E, and Smash brought in RK. The siege lasted a bit over a month. While Ratel+F-E had overwhelmingly better efficiency, Smash and RK had more cap, and pos experiance resulting in Smash after the month+ of fighting being able to kill 2 of Ratels pos's, with Ratel killing none. The siege wasn't going anywhere quickly, so Smash dropped 35+ large towers in a single night. The system was bugged and Ratel was never notified that towers were being dropped. The war was over overnight. Ratel maintained 16 odd towers for the 3 months SMASH only had 6 in system. Ratel/F-E effeciency was poor, they lost less dreads, but that was because they only sieged twice, first time losing 3 dreads and second time the node crashed and they had their dreads moved away by GMs. We dropped 30 in one night, 6 had been up for months, there are 71 moons. All the towers were fully fitted deathstars. RATEL had a scout notice the un-anchored towers and mods freely floating in one of the existing 6 towers some time before the first one was anchored, and it didn't matter anyway, they were seriously outnumbered at the time that they were deployed (about 10:1). Only about 8 people in all of SMASH/RK knew the towers were going down, those 8 handled everything, the other 100 odd locked down the system. When it was all over, we still told no-one. RATEL knew internally before most SMASH/RK members did. RATEL's mood was fairly low at that point, for the last 3 months they hadn't killed a tower while 6 sat anchored, now they had 36 to contend with, and no possible way of removing them. (having already called in all possible friends/mercenaries). Also, you sound just a little bit bitter. There is only one ex-RATEL era guy that actually impresses me for being more action that talk, that's 'The Aegis'. Even after all this time he still comes back for some pew pew. A good clean grudge that SMASH actually deserves. Most of the others just either got over it or do nothing but whinge on the forums (even while in blue alliances renting from SMASH) Yea, Aegis is all about the pew pew! I was still a noob when we were fighting over TDE, so I wasn't able to do much more than fly around in cruisers and destroyers and die. Good times though! *********************************** "Burn the land, boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me..."
Schizoid Mox Minmatar The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.10 18:42:00 - [73] Edited by: Schizoid Mox on 10/04/2008 18:46:43 I would like to suggest the next step in the history of this alliance. Why not form a single alliance with Smash and R0adkill, it would help a lot.
Farham AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.04.10 18:59:00 - [74] "Why not form a single alliance with Smash and R0adkill, it would help a lot." Because having dealt with you both for almost a year now I can tell you the two alliances are very different. Intrepid Crossing Diplomat and Forum Operating N00b IRC - 2008 Award Winning Worst PVP Alliance in EVE
CrushProject Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.04.10 19:25:00 - [75] Originally by: Farham "Why not form a single alliance with Smash and R0adkill, it would help a lot." Because having dealt with you both for almost a year now I can tell you the two alliances are very different. amen to that! hahaha
xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.04.10 19:30:00 - [76] Yep, wardeccing smash without roadkill is a nice sploit
Bashiri Point-Zero SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.10 22:39:00 - [77] Originally by: Schizoid Mox Edited by: Schizoid Mox on 10/04/2008 18:46:43 I would like to suggest the next step in the history of this alliance. Why not form a single alliance with Smash and R0adkill, it would help a lot. Who says i want to be friends with rk
Khyara	Posted - 2008.04.10 23:31:00 - [78] I can add a bit to the history here. I admit, I didnt read the whole thread, so if its a repeat, I apologize. No wait. I dont apologize - F U for making me apologize! Anyhoo. Back in the day a little alliance formed up known as Storm Armada lead by Wraith Storm. Rumour mill had it (as I was not in the know those days - and still not now) that Wraith purchased the BWF and BND for a small fortune from a bunch of PVP'ers who had cleaned it out but didnt want to settle it. Well Storm Armada tried to settle it, and along came RK and SMASH. They decided they wanted BWF and BND for themselves. Unfortunately Storm Armada was mainly made up of n00b pilots except for 1-2 hardcore corps. The defense wasnt going too bad until a Mothership showed up (which were still rare then) and it was pretty much all over after that (old motherships were compelely immune to EWar. So the pilot would come in, blow up a bunch of ships and happily warp off. Repair damage, Rinse and repeat. There were no dictors then either) So RK with the help of Smash managed to cleanse BWF, and has pretty much owned most of Geminate since. Thats what I remember anyways being on the receiving end of that ass kicking. (Cruiser Moa ftw against a Mothership!)
fugazii Novus Industries	Posted - 2008.04.11 05:54:00 - [79] Originally by: Khyara I can add a bit to the history here. I admit, I didnt read the whole thread, so if its a repeat, I apologize. No wait. I dont apologize - F U for making me apologize! Anyhoo. Back in the day a little alliance formed up known as Storm Armada lead by Wraith Storm. Rumour mill had it (as I was not in the know those days - and still not now) that Wraith purchased the BWF and BND for a small fortune from a bunch of PVP'ers who had cleaned it out but didnt want to settle it. Well Storm Armada tried to settle it, and along came RK and SMASH. They decided they wanted BWF and BND for themselves. Unfortunately Storm Armada was mainly made up of n00b pilots except for 1-2 hardcore corps. The defense wasnt going too bad until a Mothership showed up (which were still rare then) and it was pretty much all over after that (old motherships were compelely immune to EWar. So the pilot would come in, blow up a bunch of ships and happily warp off. Repair damage, Rinse and repeat. There were no dictors then either) So RK with the help of Smash managed to cleanse BWF, and has pretty much owned most of Geminate since. Thats what I remember anyways being on the receiving end of that ass kicking. (Cruiser Moa ftw against a Mothership!) Thats not in any way true. it went TBB>MC>TBB>E-R>Storm>F-E/CI>ISS>RK/SMASH Smash and RK was nearly non-existent during storm armada's ownership, aside from the odd fleet when F-E asked peoke for backup.
Hohne Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.11 06:15:00 - [80] Originally by: fugazii Thats not in any way true. it went TBB>MC>TBB>E-R>Storm>F-E/CI>ISS>RK/SMASH Smash and RK was nearly non-existent during storm armada's ownership, aside from the odd fleet when F-E asked peoke for backup. ^ This is the correct version, RK/SMASH may have shot some things in BWF, it was F-E/CI that kicked out Storm Armada.
Draahk Chimera Caldari Monopropellant Fools	Posted - 2008.04.11 06:46:00 - [81] Few people seem to realize that the freindship between RK/Smash actually started alot earlier. When the corps that where to found RK was in Stain Alliance. SA was in war with FIX, but they didnt want their space, they just wanted to kill FIX. So the space was up for grabs. Before BoB re-re-re-re-re-re-re-set FIX to blue SA had the gates locked down in FIX station systems while Emperor and a few other Smashies achored poses. The whole thing fell apart when McBob butted in on the side of FIX, again. As far as the anchoring of 36 poses in TDE4 it wasent actually anchor-win. The poses where anchored on saturday and already sunday everyone living in Geminate suddenly had Ratel blue and was heading to TDE4. E-R, Pure., Astral Wolves and CDC are a few I remember. The fighting in o2o was pretty rough with about 40 RK in frigs fighterbombing approx 120 enemies (in waves of 40-50). When the 80 or so survivors entered TDE4 they realized there was little they could do agaisnt all them deathstars and "crashed" on safespots. Some of them logged in-harrased-"crashed" for quite a long time after while others lost their ships trying to get home.
Tayler Derden Solar Dragons SOLAR FLEET	Posted - 2008.04.11 14:19:00 - [82] Originally by: FinrodFelagund Appearntly some **** went down with RA about some 10/10 plex. RA tried to take TDE, they did not account for roadkill and got smashed. dont lie to yourself RA never tried to take TDE pos was anchored just for fun about 10\10 - you wanted something you dont deserve. thats all
Hohne Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.11 14:57:00 - [83] Originally by: Tayler Derden dont lie to yourself RA never tried to take TDE pos was anchored just for fun about 10\10 - you wanted something you dont deserve. thats all The truth is somewhere in the middle RA sent a substantial sized roaming gang the night before and had it absolutely decimated by a gang camping the gate with fighters assigned that was actually a fair bit smaller than the RA gang. The next night they sent in 8 or so capital ships with their gang and anchored a medium POS. (just one, and just a medium). It was switfly hit into reinforced and removed as soon as it came out. The 'reason' it was anchored was simply because RA's roaming gangs were being chewed up by SMASH gangs that had fighter support, RA wanted their own capital ships to even things out. It obviously wasn't a system taking step, but it was in many ways an invasion of space, and anchoring a tower in Geminate without asking RK was serious enough for them to reset RA, despite insistance from SMASH that they didn't need to. If SMASH didn't deserve it why did RA need to make an excuse to reset SMASH ? SMASH had sieged the system and several surrounding systems while RA was busy securing what they 'deserved'. RA wanted it for themselves despite not doing the work to take the system, SMASH had also previously helped Goonswarm in Could Ring without payment, this was a second time, again when it came time to pay, no payment. At the time SMASH's capital fleet was still one of the largest around, and the largest next to MC's for hire. Basically every time SMASH tried to help RA/Goons they got what they 'deserved' which was a kick in the pants from the people they were helping. 20 dreads sieging LV towers because RA were 'busy' and all of a sudden RA has the caps available to threaten to hot-drop the very caps working for them. The reality was that Goonswarm owed SMASH, and were presuring RA to let them have it, RA wanted all the 10/10's and weren't willing to even let it be run occasionally by SMASH in return for holding one of the many stations they didn't even want to hold anyway.

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