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Gremrod
Minmatar DEEzNUTS-DzN
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Posted - 2008.04.20 18:23:00 -
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Once I get this program a little further along I hope to have a build that will check for updates and download them instead of doing file patches and placing them up for download.
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EBANK Ricdic
Eve-Tech Savings n Loans
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Posted - 2008.04.21 05:27:00 -
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I cant get it to work in Australia.
Is there a way to modify my pc settings to allow it to make this program work in some way, obviously we have the same language as US/UK
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Astorothe
Aperture Science Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.21 08:15:00 -
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It's also not working for me and I'm based in Australia also.
Upon running the program it simply crashes.
Running Vista SP1.
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Gremrod
Minmatar DEEzNUTS-DzN
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Posted - 2008.04.21 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Astorothe It's also not working for me and I'm based in Australia also.
Upon running the program it simply crashes.
Running Vista SP1.
Make sure you have MS .NET Framework 3.5 installed.
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Gremrod
Minmatar DEEzNUTS-DzN
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Posted - 2008.04.21 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: EBANK Ricdic I cant get it to work in Australia.
Is there a way to modify my pc settings to allow it to make this program work in some way, obviously we have the same language as US/UK
If you set your lang. to either US Englisk or UK English and yur location to United States it should work fine.
Sorry about this... Trying to get it so it is non-region specific.
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Gremrod
Minmatar DEEzNUTS-DzN
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Posted - 2008.04.21 15:45:00 -
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The issue is with the formatting of the data. EVEMarket is using English format for numbers, dates, etc.
I think the easy way to fix this for now is to do a override of the default system language and tell EVEMarket to format everything in US English format.
Number: 1,999,000.00 Date: Month/Day/Year
These are really the only format that ISK MEDIC needs to worry about so it your data is at least correctly displayed when pulled from the database it imports the market logs into.
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Forkrim
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Posted - 2008.04.21 17:44:00 -
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I copied the updated exe over the old one, and imported some new files. but sadly, it still seems off in some cases, but not all.
I havent yet been able to determine what exactly makes it go astray for some detail lines.
this is my regional number format 123.456.789,00
you want me to check something specific?
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Gremrod
Minmatar DEEzNUTS-DzN
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Posted - 2008.04.21 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: Forkrim I copied the updated exe over the old one, and imported some new files. but sadly, it still seems off in some cases, but not all.
I havent yet been able to determine what exactly makes it go astray for some detail lines.
this is my regional number format 123.456.789,00
you want me to check something specific?
Is that the belgium format for numbers?
At this point I think I am just going to override the UI culture and have all numbers format in English along with dates.
Let me play a little more I think I can get the default culture fromyour system and applie that to the UI and everything should display correctly.
For now if you set your default lang to US English and your Location to United States it should work fine for you. but this is a hassle....
give me some time and I will get this all worked out and solid!
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Gremrod
Minmatar DEEzNUTS-DzN
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Posted - 2008.04.22 03:11:00 -
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Ok, I have a patch that will using your local default system settings for the number format, date, etc.
Patch 0012
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Gremrod
Minmatar DEEzNUTS-DzN
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Posted - 2008.04.22 03:14:00 -
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This is the current full version link.
ISK MEDIC 0012
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Astorothe
Aperture Science Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.22 03:21:00 -
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It's now working for me (Australia Vista SP1)! I'll take a good spin and come back with some feedback.
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Gremrod
Minmatar DEEzNUTS-DzN
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Posted - 2008.04.22 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: Gremrod on 22/04/2008 16:34:59 Ok, here is the patch to allow ISK MEDIC to run on 64bit systems. Thanks goes out to one eve player and his wife. They pointed me in the direction to get it to work and why it was not working on 64bit systems.
ISK MEDIC Patch 0013
FULL Version download ISK MEDIC 0013 |

No Vision
B SiTE Inc
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Posted - 2008.04.22 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Gremrod
FULL Version download ISK MEDIC 0013
Full version is incomplete! its only 100kb |

Gremrod
Minmatar DEEzNUTS-DzN
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Posted - 2008.04.22 20:44:00 -
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Sorry about that here is the link to the full version download
Current ISK MEDIC 0013 build
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Gremrod
Minmatar DEEzNUTS-DzN
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Posted - 2008.04.23 05:23:00 -
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Also, if anyone has any feature requests or any bugs to report please post here or join the in-game channel ISKMEDIC or you can just shoot me an evemail.
Thanks
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.04.24 06:55:00 -
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Like this, very nice. Suggestions and Commentary (Here is one (1) grain of salt)
- Folder Settings - A pain in the arse to always have to keep changing to the directory where the log files are kept. Additionally, even if someone is sharing logs between corpmates it is just easier to have a configurable "log" location, per user, that they can move or copy logs to at their discretion.
- View Pane (Possible Setting) - I notice that when you double click on an item it brings you up a view pane. Double click a different item and it brings up an additional view pane. This might be great for comparing some items one from another (and perhaps there is also another use - still new to this app) but quickly enough you could have a dozen view panes open one on top of another. If you have the screens maximized you might not even notice.
Basically I was wondering, as a suggestion, if you could set it to operate somewhat similar to how eve "optionally" handles show info panes. I.e. Use current unless "toggle key" is pressed. Ironically I have other ideas but I'm going to keep my mouth shut. I've got the skill to leverage what this program does, at it's core, into various personal ideas/projects. So on that alone I love this app. The core functionality is very much one of those "need to have" things that I can mark off my list. PS: I also just realized one other thing. If you make the "server" capability functional I think you should consider it as a two part open source project. I think most would prefer to have their own servers running instead of having one centralized server under someone else's control/purview. Or, if you choose not to go with a community released server version you might think about adding in an import/export feature so people can share data direct from each other. Just a thought as I'm having no trouble extracting data myself.
To Shar -verb: 1 - To say what you mean. 2 - To say what it means. 3 - To say something mean. |

Gremrod
Minmatar DEEzNUTS-DzN
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Posted - 2008.04.24 13:49:00 -
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Edited by: Gremrod on 24/04/2008 13:52:50 Edited by: Gremrod on 24/04/2008 13:52:10 Edited by: Gremrod on 24/04/2008 13:50:53
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Like this, very nice. Suggestions and Commentary (Here is one (1) grain of salt)
- Folder Settings - A pain in the arse to always have to keep changing to the directory where the log files are kept. Additionally, even if someone is sharing logs between corpmates it is just easier to have a configurable "log" location, per user, that they can move or copy logs to at their discretion.
Ok, so you would like to have a setting where you keep your files? Right now ISK MEDIC opens the dialog box to the documents folder which is where the EVE folder lives. You want it to open right to the marketlogs folder when importing?
- View Pane (Possible Setting) - I notice that when you double click on an item it brings you up a view pane. Double click a different item and it brings up an additional view pane. This might be great for comparing some items one from another (and perhaps there is also another use - still new to this app) but quickly enough you could have a dozen view panes open one on top of another. If you have the screens maximized you might not even notice.
Yes, I have thought about the multi windows you could have open. I am a big user of the Windows menu that list all open windows within a program. But your correct these can go unseen by most.
Basically I was wondering, as a suggestion, if you could set it to operate somewhat similar to how eve "optionally" handles show info panes. I.e. Use current unless "toggle key" is pressed. Good, idea!Ironically I have other ideas but I'm going to keep my mouth shut. I've got the skill to leverage what this program does, at it's core, into various personal ideas/projects. So on that alone I love this app. The core functionality is very much one of those "need to have" things that I can mark off my list. PS: I also just realized one other thing. If you make the "server" capability functional I think you should consider it as a two part open source project. I think most would prefer to have their own servers running instead of having one centralized server under someone else's control/purview. Yes, we have thought about this a lot and we have kicked around a few ideas. One was to do a release of the web service and the app so corps could host their own data.The other of course was a centralized database. Could have many problems. One being some ppl will not want to share their data. Very good point. Or, if you choose not to go with a community released server version you might think about adding in an import/export feature so people can share data direct from each other. Just a thought as I'm having no trouble extracting data myself.
I agree at this point I have not problems exporting the data myself. But a way to share data with corp. mates would be nice. One idea would be to allow ppl to set up their own peer-to-peer network between friends and corp members that use the tool.
Just an idea....
Thanks for the input I will get these ideas boxed out in a plan and see what I can come up with.
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Forkrim
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Posted - 2008.04.24 17:57:00 -
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Sadly, i've still got the regional settings problem.
It still screws up the numerical format for some lines. (wouldnt be that big a problem if it did the same for all lines, but it doesnt ;) )
Is it possible that you didnt update the version number in the programme? under about, it still says version 0.0.1.0.0.0.1.0 ? or is the latest version link not correct perhaps?
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Forkrim
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Posted - 2008.04.24 18:10:00 -
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btw : setting the number format to US does make it work perfectly.. so i guess mine doesnt listen to my windows settings (Vista) but that's not really that big of a hassel anyways
I do have a feature request
What's the point in having a huge item tree on the left filled with stuff that doesnt have data? Instead of using a colour that shows what you have data on... why not only show the items that you have data on? or atleast the option wether to show everything, or only data holding items?
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Gremrod
Minmatar DEEzNUTS-DzN
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Posted - 2008.04.24 18:12:00 -
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What are your region settings?
That version number is not being used yet by me really. I will get that all inline soon so the version in the application is the build numbers I go by.
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Gremrod
Minmatar DEEzNUTS-DzN
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Posted - 2008.04.24 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Forkrim btw : setting the number format to US does make it work perfectly.. so i guess mine doesnt listen to my windows settings (Vista) but that's not really that big of a hassel anyways
I do have a feature request
What's the point in having a huge item tree on the left filled with stuff that doesnt have data? Instead of using a colour that shows what you have data on... why not only show the items that you have data on? or atleast the option wether to show everything, or only data holding items?
Yes, you are correct that does make since. I have thought about doing something just like that.
Thanks.
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Gremrod
Minmatar DEEzNUTS-DzN
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Posted - 2008.04.24 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Forkrim Sadly, i've still got the regional settings problem.
It still screws up the numerical format for some lines. (wouldnt be that big a problem if it did the same for all lines, but it doesnt ;) )
Is it possible that you didnt update the version number in the programme? under about, it still says version 0.0.1.0.0.0.1.0 ? or is the latest version link not correct perhaps?
Try getting the version from the full version link 0013 in this thread. Wipe out your old database with a clean one from the full version download. And give it a try again. |

Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.04.25 07:09:00 -
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I was looking and something I noticed... filtering would be helpful. Being able to quickly filter columns would be very helpful. (Or if it is in there I don't see it). Also when I un-check a region it is not excluded from the represented data. Not sure if this is an intended feature or not so... again healthy grains of salt.
To Shar -verb: 1 - To say what you mean. 2 - To say what it means. 3 - To say something mean. |

Gremrod
Minmatar DEEzNUTS-DzN
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Posted - 2008.04.25 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: Gremrod on 25/04/2008 14:21:20
Originally by: Shar Tegral
I was looking and something I noticed... filtering would be helpful. Being able to quickly filter columns would be very helpful. (Or if it is in there I don't see it). Also when I un-check a region it is not excluded from the represented data. Not sure if this is an intended feature or not so... again healthy grains of salt.
You can sort the columns by clicking on the column heade name. By filtering columns, can you explain a little more, do you mean to want the ability to exclude columns from the data view?
Also, the unchecking of regions only removes that region at the time you click to see the specific items data, Once the window is open and you uncheck the region it doesn refresh the data window. but I think that would be a good idea.
I am going to compile the list of requests so far and get started on these right away. |

Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.04.25 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Gremrod You can sort the columns by clicking on the column heade name. By filtering columns, can you explain a little more, do you mean to want the ability to exclude columns from the data view?
Not exclude columns but have the ability to exclude data itself that do not meet with user defined criteria. I.e. Rows where qty >= 1000, Rows where price <= 25000, etc., etc. Of course the idea is that the filtering would be one on top of the other. (I.e. kind of like Excel's autofilter). |

Gremrod
Minmatar DEEzNUTS-DzN
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Posted - 2008.04.25 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Gremrod You can sort the columns by clicking on the column heade name. By filtering columns, can you explain a little more, do you mean to want the ability to exclude columns from the data view?
Not exclude columns but have the ability to exclude data itself that do not meet with user defined criteria. I.e. Rows where qty >= 1000, Rows where price <= 25000, etc., etc. Of course the idea is that the filtering would be one on top of the other. (I.e. kind of like Excel's autofilter).
Yes, when you said filer the columns not data I had to ask. Yes, I think this is something very well needed. It will make the request list!
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.04.25 18:04:00 -
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Okay, last thing for the day I promise!
This could be considered a feature addition but it is one of them things that seems like a no brainer. Add the system table (from the export) to the database and have system security rating added as a column to the view panes. (Include it in filtering too.)
Oh, and keep your app focused on what it does now. Improve the functionality of it, the look of it, etc., etc.. But resist the temptation to start bundling other metagame functions to it. In my experience this complicates matters (introducing bugs) and can cause the application to appear to be doing too much at once.
Right now it is very very good and very very slick.
And I've yet to actually use it for trading! |

Gremrod
Minmatar DEEzNUTS-DzN
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Posted - 2008.04.25 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
Okay, last thing for the day I promise!
This could be considered a feature addition but it is one of them things that seems like a no brainer. Add the system table (from the export) to the database and have system security rating added as a column to the view panes. (Include it in filtering too.)
Oh, and keep your app focused on what it does now. Improve the functionality of it, the look of it, etc., etc.. But resist the temptation to start bundling other metagame functions to it. In my experience this complicates matters (introducing bugs) and can cause the application to appear to be doing too much at once.
Right now it is very very good and very very slick.
And I've yet to actually use it for trading!
yes, the security column is a good idea. I had thought about putting in a feature for you to enter your current location and a column would tell you how many jumps each station is from your current location. but I agree I need to focus on what it does it make it better. Plus you can click the station cell and right click and copy the station name into eve to link.
Oh, you have not used it yet for any trades? :) |

Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.04.25 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Gremrod Oh, you have not used it yet for any trades? :)
I know it sounds odd but I had some free time on my hands and needed something to do to occupy my mind. Of course I can't say I'm not getting any use out of the system. Just nothing to do with trade. We all have our little secrets no?
To Shar -verb: 1 - To say what you mean. 2 - To say what it means. 3 - To say something mean. |

Gremrod
Minmatar DEEzNUTS-DzN
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Posted - 2008.04.25 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Gremrod Oh, you have not used it yet for any trades? :)
I know it sounds odd but I had some free time on my hands and needed something to do to occupy my mind. Of course I can't say I'm not getting any use out of the system. Just nothing to do with trade. We all have our little secrets no?
I hear yeah! |
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