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Quelque Chose
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.04.09 00:33:00 -
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Edited by: Quelque Chose on 09/04/2008 00:33:53
 Originally by: Le Skunk
If you bought enough codes, you could shift 90 billion isk a day. "Supply and demand" would not be affected in the slightest. CCP endorse buying your way to victory.
Current average for 30 day GTC is about 160 mil. 30 day gtc costs $15 US. 90bn ISK = ~600 gtc = $9000 US.
Please show me the guy who spends 9 grand a day on a video game as I need somebody new to mooch off of.
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Quelque Chose
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.04.09 00:58:00 -
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Edited by: Quelque Chose on 09/04/2008 01:04:01
Originally by: Le Skunk
CCP Grimmi says:
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Supply and demand dictates that it would be very difficult for an individual to gather tens of billions of ISK with the secure system and thus game balance will not be upset.
This is patently incorrect. An individual CAN use the secure system to gather tens of billions of isk AND upset the game balance.
CCP Grimmi is trying to convey the impression that one of the major difference in what happens with the isk selling sites and what ccp are doing is that nobody could possibly abuse it. This is a falsehood.
You've definitely got a point if you read the words "very difficult" as "impossible." 
Furthermore GTC trading is limited by demand for GTCs, which is a lot lower than demand for ISK.
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Originally by: "ccp"
Corporations, or even Alliances, should not be able to fuel their wars and other activities like they have done in a number of cases with ISK bought for real world money.
If people have (as this suggests) banded together and used real life moeny in order to fuel a war (or the all encomposing other activiteis) and this is lambasted by CCP as something 'evil and wrong' then why are they activley promoting the means to do exaclty the same thing in a dev blog.
Looking thourgh the forums you regually see people seeling 10 or 20 GTC in one go. MOre then enough to 'Fund a war'.
SKUNK
20x 30 day GTC = 3.6 bn. That might be enough to fund some rinky- dink empire griefing corp but if you look at most active (ie, "at war") 0.0 killboards you'll find that's not really so much. How much does a Titan cost these days?
Meanwhile 20x 30 day GTC is 1/2 my rent. I find it particularly hilarious that if you read GD regularly you'll find a raft of Europeans screaming that they're getting ripped off by exchange rates at $20 US/ month AND a gang of people complaining that 15x that amount is too cheap a price for 3 freighters.
In a perfect world this wouldn't happen, but if it cuts into the, uh *ahem* pacific rim ISK market then I'm for it tbh.
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Quelque Chose
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Posted - 2008.04.09 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kneebone
What you are forgetting is that the 3.5 Million USD that CCP makes from GTC is 3.5 Million USD they do not make from the accounts that had the GTC applied to them. That is a zero balence. The ONLY time that CCP comes out ahead in such a transaction is if the person who bought the GTC cancels his account before the GTC expires.
The other possibility there is that there's a significant number of accounts that wouldn't be active if they couldn't be paid for with ISK instead of real money... in which case, yes, CCP is making extra income from GTC sales. Furthermore it's likely that those extra accounts would be involved in farming activities of some sort, even if it's just some regular joe who runs 5 mining accounts.
How much of that goes on? Obviously I don't know. If I had to guess I'd say not that much, but at any rate the point remains that it's not quite zero- sum. It probably doesn't stack up to $35m/ year though.
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Quelque Chose
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Posted - 2008.04.10 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: RedClaws
Hi,
I'm a multimillion dollar company owner that has retired and I still make over 100k dollars a month. I certainly don't spend all of that in a month but I try.
I play eve a lot but I don't like the isk gathering part so I simply buy about 5000 dollars of GTC's a month and sell them: 350 gtc's or about 61 bil isk a month.
I continuously buy all the nice officer items on contracts, mess with the market whenever I feel like it and sometimes I donate a titan to my alliance (I think i've donated like 5 now)
So I just fly around in officer fitted faction battleships ganking people in lowsec or when pvping in 0.0 I use a mothership. If I lose it it's not a problem since I got 15 more in my hanger.
I hope I'm not messing up your game too much by letting my alliance own everybody else but then again most of you are in empire mining veldspar for 1 mil isk an hour right?
CCP says it's ok so you can't stop me.
Hi,
Since I am the Pope I can confirm that God knows this happens all the time and doesn't have a problem with it. Neither does JC for that matter, but the Holy Ghost says he thinks your scenario is a load of horse****.
You'll have to forgive the Holy Ghost, he's been a bit cranky since the Reformation.
Dominus Vobiscum,
Joseph "Joey the Rat" Ratzinger
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