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Umar Khattab Amarr Clown Punchers. Clown Punchers Syndicate	Posted - 2008.04.13 11:41:00 - [31] Originally by: Feng Schui I've always played the arbitrator like a mini-pilgrim to be honest. Probably one of the reasons why I can perform like I do with the pilgrim, even though it sucks for its cost. Here's the setup I use for the arbi: [Arbitrator] Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Medium Armor Repairer II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200 Warp Disruptor II Tracking Disruptor II 10MN Afterburner II Medium Nosferatu II Small Energy Neutralizer II Small Energy Neutralizer II Small Energy Neutralizer II [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Valkyrie II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Warrior II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Once you get extremely proficient with this setup, you will be good in a Pilgrim. How was it going for you? Isn't the natural tank too low to go for tanking? Were you soloing or in fleet? Low sec or 0.0? DUDEISM.COM
Umar Khattab Amarr Clown Punchers. Clown Punchers Syndicate	Posted - 2008.04.13 11:43:00 - [32] I've also heard that some people don't even fit nos on pilgrims/curse, and prefer to go for blasters. What do you thing about that? DUDEISM.COM
Khwalik Ghetto Kings	Posted - 2008.04.13 11:52:00 - [33] My 'RADAR' love boat. Had old arb sitting in hangar fitted this one for doing some exploration sites mainly hacking or some Unks. Drone Link Augmentor. Some named Pulse laser out of loot stash.(2) Tractor beam./ or salvager. kinda varies. 10mn AB II Hacking Module. Cap Bat II named Cap Recharger of some sort. Med Arm Rep II centi c type Adaptive Nano Rat specific Resist. Cargo expander. em rig therm rig hacking rig. belly full of drones. It's good ship that'll afk actually if i get pulled away from what i'm doing. and made use of some of the junk i had sitting about. Never intended to be a serious fit but works for me.
Kingwood Amarr The Greater Goon GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.04.13 12:09:00 - [34] Edited by: Kingwood on 13/04/2008 12:14:23 Edited by: Kingwood on 13/04/2008 12:09:37 Highs: 4 named small nos Meds: X5 Web, Tracking Disruptor II or Balmer, Warp Disruptor II, Cap Booster with 200's Lows: 1600mm plate, 2 active hardeners, MAR II Killed a Vexor with similar fittings with it, the pilot was disturbed by my tank after the fight. Note I have rather horrible drone skills because I just returned after more than a year to Eve, so it should perform even better with DI 5/CDO 5. Edit: Lowsec fit. It will die horribly in 0.0 space the first gatecamp it runs into. Edit2: CDO, not CBO.
Kingwood Amarr The Greater Goon GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.04.13 12:35:00 - [35] Originally by: Umar Khattab I've also heard that some people don't even fit nos on pilgrims/curse, and prefer to go for blasters. What do you thing about that? My take on the Pilgrim is it needs a boost. I'm still experimenting with a good setup on it (with Recon 4). I tried a NOS setup with 2x MAR II, which failed horribly, since I have to use a MWD in 0.0, and my capacitor recharge is not enough to even reasonably sustain 2x MAR IIs running. NOS will at most get 2 cycles on a BC target, and then I have to rely on 400's, which are not enough. I've settled for a low slot setup with a 800mm plate, Thermic active Hardener II, Cap Relay, MAR II, and DC II. Mids have to include a MWD, Cap Booster, Web and Warp Disruptor, with the last slot of your choice (I go for Tracking Disruptors). Highs are 2 named medium neuts. I'd quite like it if CCP were to raise the Cap recharge of the Pilgrim to simulate at least 1 medium bonused NOS running.
Umar Khattab Amarr Clown Punchers. Clown Punchers Syndicate	Posted - 2008.04.13 13:32:00 - [36] Edited by: Umar Khattab on 13/04/2008 13:32:34 Originally by: Feilamya Quote: [Arbitrator, Nano] 2x Nanofiber Internal Structure II 2x Overdrive Injector System II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Medium F-RX Prototype I Capacitor Boost, Cap Booster 800 Warp Disruptor II Tracking Disruptor II, Tracking Speed Disruption Medium Proton Smartbomb I Medium Rudimentary Energy Destabilizer 2x (small arty, laser, rail, whatever you can use) (drones) - Smartbomb vs. small drones - Neut vs. frigs that are stupid enough to come close You know what sucks about nano ships? Nothing! lol (Final word about nanos in this thread! ... please) I think I'll use a setup similar to this one for PVP, sounds really good. Maybe I'll also experience the nos/neut setups to train some for the future pilgrim. But about the 0.0 belt ratting setup?I found that setup by Elhina: High: Beam Laser, Cloak, Salvage, Tractor Beam Med: AB II, Large Cap Battery II, Cap Recharge II, Drone Navigation Computer Low: 2 x EANM II, DCU II, MAR II What do you guys think of that 0.0 ratting setup? What would you change and why? Thank you. DUDEISM.COM
Ignatious Mei	Posted - 2008.04.13 16:24:00 - [37] Originally by: Umar Khattab Edited by: Umar Khattab on 13/04/2008 13:32:34 Originally by: Feilamya Quote: [Arbitrator, Nano] 2x Nanofiber Internal Structure II 2x Overdrive Injector System II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Medium F-RX Prototype I Capacitor Boost, Cap Booster 800 Warp Disruptor II Tracking Disruptor II, Tracking Speed Disruption Medium Proton Smartbomb I Medium Rudimentary Energy Destabilizer 2x (small arty, laser, rail, whatever you can use) (drones) - Smartbomb vs. small drones - Neut vs. frigs that are stupid enough to come close You know what sucks about nano ships? Nothing! lol (Final word about nanos in this thread! ... please) I think I'll use a setup similar to this one for PVP, sounds really good. Maybe I'll also experience the nos/neut setups to train some for the future pilgrim. But about the 0.0 belt ratting setup?I found that setup by Elhina: High: Beam Laser, Cloak, Salvage, Tractor Beam Med: AB II, Large Cap Battery II, Cap Recharge II, Drone Navigation Computer Low: 2 x EANM II, DCU II, MAR II What do you guys think of that 0.0 ratting setup? What would you change and why? Thank you. Is 5 t2 med drones enough to break BS tanks?
Storm Strike	Posted - 2008.04.13 17:26:00 - [38] All these nano arbitrators. I dont know how your going to kill anything that has a brain when they can just kill your drones.
Umar Khattab Amarr Clown Punchers. Clown Punchers Syndicate	Posted - 2008.04.13 17:47:00 - [39] Originally by: Storm Strike All these nano arbitrators. I dont know how your going to kill anything that has a brain when they can just kill your drones. what do u propose? DUDEISM.COM
Ignatious Mei	Posted - 2008.04.13 17:57:00 - [40] Originally by: Storm Strike All these nano arbitrators. I dont know how your going to kill anything that has a brain when they can just kill your drones. My 2 favorite types of people in Eve Mr/Mrs X fit wont work because it has Y counter And Mr/Mrs Don't bother with X fit because you need 100000000 SP's to make it uber. You are number 1
Umar Khattab Amarr Clown Punchers. Clown Punchers Syndicate	Posted - 2008.04.13 18:50:00 - [41] Originally by: Ignatious Mei Originally by: Storm Strike All these nano arbitrators. I dont know how your going to kill anything that has a brain when they can just kill your drones. My 2 favorite types of people in Eve Mr/Mrs X fit wont work because it has Y counter And Mr/Mrs Don't bother with X fit because you need 100000000 SP's to make it uber. You are number 1 DUDEISM.COM
Umar Khattab Amarr Clown Punchers. Clown Punchers Syndicate	Posted - 2008.04.13 22:09:00 - [42] Originally by: Umar Khattab But about the 0.0 belt ratting setup?I found that setup by Elhina: High: Beam Laser, Cloak, Salvage, Tractor Beam Med: AB II, Large Cap Battery II, Cap Recharge II, Drone Navigation Computer Low: 2 x EANM II, DCU II, MAR II What do you guys think of that 0.0 ratting setup? What would you change and why? Thank you. Some reactions about that ratting setup? DUDEISM.COM
Mel Gibbson	Posted - 2008.04.13 22:29:00 - [43] Nano Arbitrator will ... Die to anything with T2 medium drones. UNLESS, You go fast enough to dodge the drone hits .. which would be .. expensive and ineffective. 1600 plate and small armor rep please.
Umar Khattab Amarr Clown Punchers. Clown Punchers Syndicate	Posted - 2008.04.14 02:34:00 - [44] Originally by: Mel Gibbson Nano Arbitrator will ... Die to anything with T2 medium drones. UNLESS, You go fast enough to dodge the drone hits .. which would be .. expensive and ineffective. 1600 plate and small armor rep please. What about using a smartbomb?
Mel Gibbson	Posted - 2008.04.14 02:50:00 - [45] You could use smartbombs to take out the drones .. in theory. In reality, you'd have to run the scram, MWD, and TD's nonstop if you want to dodge the hits. Those already require a cap booster. Throw a smartbomb into the mix and you will have negative cap. A nano arby is fun to fly .. but well, you just can't go fast enough without sacrificing too much. Nano arb in a gang is pretty fun though. But dont take my word for it.. its so cheap anyways you can afford to lose some here and there.
Umar Khattab Amarr Clown Punchers. Clown Punchers Syndicate	Posted - 2008.04.14 03:07:00 - [46] Originally by: Mel Gibbson Edited by: Mel Gibbson on 14/04/2008 02:56:16 You could use smartbombs to take out the drones .. in theory. In reality, you'd have to run the scram, MWD, and TD's nonstop if you want to dodge the hits. Those already require a cap booster. Throw a smartbomb into the mix and you will have negative cap. A nano arby is fun to fly .. but well, you just can't go fast enough without sacrificing too much. Nano arb in a gang is pretty fun though. But dont take my word for it.. its so cheap anyways you can afford to lose some here and there. p.s I would not advise ratting 0.0 in a arbitrator. Takes too long .. wayyyy too long. Get a BC or something. yeah actually fitting a harbinger for that. DUDEISM.COM
Cletus Graeme Caldari Bladerunners Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.04.14 04:31:00 - [47] Edited by: Cletus Graeme on 14/04/2008 04:32:19 Originally by: Mel Gibbson 1600 plate and small armor rep please. I 1v1'ed a brutix in my arbi on sissi and almost took him to struct using a 1600mm plate setup with t2 autocannons and nos (lol!). He used ecm drones to jam me but my own drones just kept eating away at him and he had trouble shooting them. In a 1v1 u will usually end up in a toe-to-toe slugfest cos u need to tackle for yourself. In such cases the heavy tank works well but I'd say go nano-arbi in gangs where speed is more important (to dictate range and get on top of targets). You can let your buddies tackle while your drones and TDs do their work.
Kano Sekor Amarr The Marathon Unit	Posted - 2008.04.14 10:49:00 - [48] Why doesnt anyone use heavy drones? Are they the sux? ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2008.04.14 10:50:00 - [49] Originally by: Kano Sekor Why doesnt anyone use heavy drones? Are they the sux? bandwidth, see vexor also lol nanos ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Blutreiter Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.04.14 13:28:00 - [50] To-do list of stuff to do with the arbitrator: Classic PvP Arbi (done) Passive Shield Arbi (done) Sniper Arbi (done) EWar Arbi (done) Disco Arbi (done) Remote gang Arbi (done) Comedy drone speed anti-nano Arbi (unfinished) and for completeness sake: Heavy armor missile Curse with 1 Neut (untested) Fun fact: Almost every damn setup on this ship is more or less viable. Except sniping. You can't do that anymore. Also, EWar is restricted to Turret Disrupting nowadays. Cogito ergo boom - I think i'll blow sht up* Originally by: CCP Explorer I know we have said this before, but this time we really mean itÖ
Blutreiter Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.04.14 13:30:00 - [51] Originally by: Umar Khattab Originally by: Mel Gibbson Nano Arbitrator will ... Die to anything with T2 medium drones. UNLESS, You go fast enough to dodge the drone hits .. which would be .. expensive and ineffective. 1600 plate and small armor rep please. What about using a smartbomb? Passive Shield tanked Arbi with triple smartbombs, engaged a Nosdomi, raped his drones, tanked the damage, reinforcements then scrapped said Dominix. Works. Cogito ergo boom - I think i'll blow sht up* Originally by: CCP Explorer I know we have said this before, but this time we really mean itÖ
Storm Strike	Posted - 2008.04.15 20:28:00 - [52] Edited by: Storm Strike on 15/04/2008 20:32:29 Originally by: Umar Khattab Originally by: Storm Strike All these nano arbitrators. I dont know how your going to kill anything that has a brain when they can just kill your drones. what do u propose? Something that isnt nano,aka tanked. You will still be able to kill the noobs that wouldnt think to shoot your drones with a nanosetup and have a chance against people that would. Originally by: Ignatious Mei My 2 favorite types of people in Eve Mr/Mrs X fit wont work because it has Y counter And Mr/Mrs Don't bother with X fit because you need 100000000 SP's to make it uber. You are number 1 While I know there are some slow people I try not to fit ships that can be countered by anyone with a brain that has a web on their ship. Which in this case is nearly everyone, caldari dont count unless you think you can speed tank their missiles with a nanoarby
Tatiana Valenko Eve Defence Force Insurgency	Posted - 2008.04.16 11:01:00 - [53] Just thought i'd post my ratting setup i used to use vs guristas..could tank 3 x 1.8m spawns. [0.0 ratting Arty] Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Damage Control II Ballistic Deflection Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Small Tractor Beam I Upgraded 'Limos' Standard Missile Bay I,Bloodclaw Light Missile 650mm Artillery Cannon II,Titanium Sabot M 650mm Artillery Cannon II,Titanium Sabot M Drones_Active=Vespa II,5 Drones_Inactive=Hornet II,5
Feilamya Minmatar Pelennor Swarm	Posted - 2008.04.17 00:07:00 - [54] Originally by: Mel Gibbson Edited by: Mel Gibbson on 14/04/2008 02:56:16 You could use smartbombs to take out the drones .. in theory. In reality, you'd have to run the scram, MWD, and TD's nonstop if you want to dodge the hits. Those already require a cap booster. Throw a smartbomb into the mix and you will have negative cap. What reality are you talking about? In that strange reality which I live in, you would be running the smartbomb until you have either killed the drones or they have killed you. Either thing will happen a long time before you run out of cap boosters, regardless of what kind of drones you are smartbombing.

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