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SOLAR stone
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Posted - 2008.04.12 07:45:00 -
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Which ship has more DPS? I know CNR has one extra weapon louncher slote but rattlesnake has 50% speed bonus
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Sealteamx
Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.04.12 07:53:00 -
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It doesn't matter, if a pilot is flying one of either they are a carebear, therefore these two ships will never fight.
Ok seriously now, for missions I have no idea.
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SOLAR stone
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Posted - 2008.04.12 08:01:00 -
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I'm going to use one of them for PVE
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MalVortex
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.04.12 08:10:00 -
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CNR does 16% more damage. Rattlesnake has a better tank. Pick which you prefer.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.12 09:27:00 -
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RS can make up for the dps difference a bit by fitting a fourth BCU (adds 6% dps). It's also much sexier.
Yes i know i spelled COAD wrong. Stop mailing me about it
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Kurt Gergard
Caldari Federal European Industry Science and Research
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Posted - 2008.04.12 10:21:00 -
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The CNR is overaly better. It's cheaper has better dps. Also it is very hard to fit the 2 remaining high slots with rail guns if you have anb x-large shield booster. Even with all lvl 5 and a 5% cpu implant you won't fit anything bigger than 2 medium rail guns. And the tank is not that much better on the rattlesnake you just have an additional low slot. In my opinion the rattle snake is just an epeen and nothing more.
"No plan has ever survived the contact with the enemy" von Moltke |

slothe
Caldari Murky Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.12 10:31:00 -
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cnr better
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Carniflex
Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.04.12 11:08:00 -
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CNR is better for lev 4 missions. That is if you are doing them for isk. If you do not care about isk and want just to earn something while chatting in corp chat and doing something, then rattle might be better as it needs less attention.
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Steve Celeste
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Posted - 2008.04.12 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz RS can make up for the dps difference a bit by fitting a fourth BCU (adds 6% dps).
Guess what? The CNR can also fit a 4th BCU!
Who could have known it was possible?
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Gul Rashen
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.04.12 11:29:00 -
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You can get or more DPS with the RS, if you have good Gunneryskills. But then its less comfortable, needs more cap and has no free Highslots for other Stuff like Tractor Beams. Fast and Comfortable=CNR and Golem Stylish=RS
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DannyMoe
Caldari Void Engineers
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Posted - 2008.04.12 11:31:00 -
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Edited by: DannyMoe on 12/04/2008 11:31:55 in empire every man and his dog has a cnr
rattlesnake has exactly the same bouns as the cnr if you have cal bs 5.
snake has more hitpoints and an extra low slot.
snake has a useless rail bouns \o/
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.12 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Steve Celeste
Originally by: Sokratesz RS can make up for the dps difference a bit by fitting a fourth BCU (adds 6% dps).
Guess what? The CNR can also fit a 4th BCU!
Who could have known it was possible?
Most permatank setups require 2 pdu's or fluxes.
Yes i know i spelled COAD wrong. Stop mailing me about it
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Zephyr Rengate
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2008.04.12 11:47:00 -
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May be wrong, but doesnt the RS need more pimp faction gear to make it perform to its best potential, wereas the CNR can use less faction gear but still perform very well.
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bldyannoyed
Un4seen Development
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Posted - 2008.04.12 11:49:00 -
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You are all forgetting though that the RS can be fitted with a passive tank that will coast through any level 4 in the game.
I last used mine when Extravaganza missions were still in and it could tank the bonus room without any hassle. Tech II fit as well, no faction anything and tech 1 rigs.
So really it comes down to whether or not you want more tank or more DPS.
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Captain Evoke
Punk Rock Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.12 13:01:00 -
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Tank should never be a problem in level4s and the CNR does more dmg, the end.
Only place rattle is better then the cnr is in Remote rep battleship gangs... mmmmm
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demonfurbie
Minmatar Covert-Nexus
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Posted - 2008.04.12 14:29:00 -
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dont forget the rattle can get more dps than a cnr if ya have good hybrid skills but you have to fit 2 425 rails and thats not that much of an issue
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Kurt Gergard
Caldari Federal European Industry Science and Research
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Posted - 2008.04.12 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: demonfurbie dont forget the rattle can get more dps than a cnr if ya have good hybrid skills but you have to fit 2 425 rails and thats not that much of an issue
please please tell me where did you get the necessary cpu for this it is unposible unless you put a cpu in the additional low slot
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demonfurbie
Minmatar Covert-Nexus
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Posted - 2008.04.12 15:42:00 -
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Edited by: demonfurbie on 12/04/2008 15:45:49 ya can get it to fit but not on an active tank
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Apertotes
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.12 22:50:00 -
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if i were rich enough to use them for pvp, i think that the extra low slot on the rattle would make it better than the cnr.
if all you care is missions, then its speed with killing red crosses you need, and then cnr is better. also, cnr's tank is more than enough for any l4 mission.
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Wardeneo
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.04.14 10:14:00 -
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WTB CRN --> looks at title 
on a serious note, CNR - duno y just CNR :)
wardeneo
If brute force doesn't work..... your not using enough :) |
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Jason Edwards
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Posted - 2008.04.14 11:47:00 -
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CNR is better and like half the price of the rattlesnake. I think we found an issue.
I think they need to boost the rattlesnake. We also need a better faction or t2 drone boat.
Rattlesnake:
Special Ability: 50% bonus to drone hitpoints and damage. Caldari Battleship skill: 5% bonus to Cruise and Siege Launcher Rate Of Fire per level. Gallente Battleship skill: +50 m3 extra Drone Bay space and +10mbit drone bandwidth per level.
This way it's basically a domi + 6 cruise/torp launchers but can only done well with gallente bs 5.
Would be a hell of a ship. 50m3 drone space less then domi at top skills. The tank could go either way armor or shield. Though not quite as good as a domi.
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Mr Reeth
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.04.14 13:51:00 -
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The RS is much sexier.
And in a couple of months CCP will change all the faction ships. Just look at their first try at that, the Nightmare. It went from crap to the best Mission laser boat in the game. One can even make the argument that it is better than the Paladin. The RS could be better than the golem pretty soon. So get it while it's cheap! |

Mr Reeth
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.04.14 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards CNR is better and like half the price of the rattlesnake. I think we found an issue.
I think they need to boost the rattlesnake. We also need a better faction or t2 drone boat.
Rattlesnake:
Special Ability: 50% bonus to drone hitpoints and damage. Caldari Battleship skill: 5% bonus to Cruise and Siege Launcher Rate Of Fire per level. Gallente Battleship skill: +50 m3 extra Drone Bay space and +10mbit drone bandwidth per level.
This way it's basically a domi + 6 cruise/torp launchers but can only done well with gallente bs 5.
Would be a hell of a ship. 50m3 drone space less then domi at top skills. The tank could go either way armor or shield. Though not quite as good as a domi.

That's just a touch over powered don't you think? You might as well ask for fighters on a HAC. |

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.14 14:01:00 -
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Just 5 or 10% drone hp/dmg per level would be fine..then again anything is better than the craptastic hybrid bonus for which you have no grid when armor tanking and no cpu when shield tanking.
Yes i know i spelled COAD wrong. Stop mailing me about it
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Hellraiza666
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.14 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz RS can make up for the dps difference a bit by fitting a fourth BCU (adds 6% dps). It's also much sexier.
You can use 4 BCU's on CNR too  |

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.14 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Hellraiza666
Originally by: Sokratesz RS can make up for the dps difference a bit by fitting a fourth BCU (adds 6% dps). It's also much sexier.
You can use 4 BCU's on CNR too 
Yes but not while trying to actively permatank. Unless you want to spend money on very expensive implants + rigs. |

DannyMoe
Caldari Void Engineers
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Posted - 2008.04.14 16:15:00 -
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Edited by: DannyMoe on 14/04/2008 16:16:28 the rail bouns needs changing.
you can fit 2 425's on an active tank but you need faction everything (even pdu's)
and even then the 425's dont realy make any difference. ( your not going to fit mag stabs or tracking mods for 2 guns)
a larger drone bay or maybe a drone dmg bouns would be nice, anything as long as its not a bouns nobody will use and thats what it has now.
the only people that would dissagree are people who dont own a snake imo
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Hellraiza666
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.14 16:16:00 -
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Edited by: Hellraiza666 on 14/04/2008 16:17:01
Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Hellraiza666
Originally by: Sokratesz RS can make up for the dps difference a bit by fitting a fourth BCU (adds 6% dps). It's also much sexier.
You can use 4 BCU's on CNR too 
Yes but not while trying to actively permatank. Unless you want to spend money on very expensive implants + rigs.
With gist XL booster u can still run it for 6/7mins, and ive yet to find a mission yet where ive ran out of cap before killing all npcs.
Edit : Altho now with rigs and implants its moreorless perma running  |
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