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Ne nehn	Posted - 2008.04.12 23:59:00 - [1] It ran me 120-130m to set up a drake somewhat decently (t2). Now, a Nighthawk would cost me 180-200 for a t2 setup. And the nighthawk, it's so much better then a drake it's not even fun. At everything. And the 70m diffrence, so worth it. Why do people bother with the drake, is there seriously not a ton of better ships out there?
Alexa Violet Amarr XZerosX Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.13 00:04:00 - [2] Drake is a noob friendly ship.
Slade Hoo Amarr	Posted - 2008.04.13 00:05:00 - [3] cause Drake needs Cruiser 3 and Battlecruiser 2 as as a requirement and Nighthawk a ton of skills additional to that.
Eardianm Darkness Inc. Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.13 00:34:00 - [4] How did you fit it, and what are you using it for? --------------
Ortos Abyssus Incendia THORN Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.13 00:47:00 - [5] comparing to a nighthawk, drake is ****. =)
Imperius Blackheart Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.13 00:51:00 - [6] You can insure your Drake for PVP and get its full value back when you die, you can't for a nighthawk. Don't compare apples and oranges, they are two different ships with two different sets of benefits.
Jaedar Metron I G N O T U S	Posted - 2008.04.13 01:04:00 - [7] Since when could you fit a good HAM fit on the NightHawk?
Ecky X Universal Securities	Posted - 2008.04.13 02:35:00 - [8] Originally by: Ne nehn It ran me 120-130m to set up a drake somewhat decently (t2). Now, a Nighthawk would cost me 180-200 for a t2 setup. And the nighthawk, it's so much better then a drake it's not even fun. At everything. And the 70m diffrence, so worth it. Why do people bother with the drake, is there seriously not a ton of better ships out there? I'm guessing you didn't use HAMs, have a point or MWD, and lacked damage mods. You probably put purgers on it too.
DroneBay Diva Hogosha Ronin	Posted - 2008.04.13 04:10:00 - [9] Originally by: Ortos drake is ****. =) o/ Ortos Fixed your statement for you :)) _____________________________________________________________________________
Spud Gunn	Posted - 2008.04.13 08:37:00 - [10] Now wait just one minute, are you trying to tell me that a tech 2 ship which requires 4+ months of training to use is better than a t1 ship which a new character could fly in the space of a week? Incredible!
Gypsio III Bambooule	Posted - 2008.04.13 09:26:00 - [11] Edited by: Gypsio III on 13/04/2008 09:29:42 Quote: Now wait just one minute, are you trying to tell me that a tech 2 ship which requires 4+ months of training to use is better than a t1 ship which a new character could fly in the space of a week? Incredible! The funny thing, though, is that the NH isn't better than the Drake. The NH is a hopelessly gimped, un*****ble, comically expensive bit of trash with a crappy tank. Also, if the OP thinks a decent Drake fit costs ~125 mill, then the OP is an idiot.
Lt Angus Caldari Wicked Crew	Posted - 2008.04.13 10:26:00 - [12] NH should be miles better than the drake and right now it isn't Shhhh, Im hunting Badgers
NoNah Tenth Legion Holdings Tenth Legion	Posted - 2008.04.13 11:22:00 - [13] Originally by: Lt Angus NH should be miles better than the drake and right now it isn't In what way is it not better? I was under the impression it had a stronger tank and dealt more damage? Where's the downside? And compare it to the absolution:harbinger for example. Or wait, are you perhaps supposed to compare tier 1 BC's with commandships as that's what they were based on? Is the NH better than the ferox? Postcount: 972415
ceyriot Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.04.13 11:43:00 - [14] Originally by: Ne nehn Ok, I tried a Drake today And how did it taste? Like chicken? Faction Store
Gypsio III Bambooule	Posted - 2008.04.13 12:12:00 - [15] Quote: I was under the impression it had a stronger tank and dealt more damage? Both of the NH's advantages here are pretty marginal. The NH has one fewer launcher but a ROF bonus, giving it 14% extra DPS. But in return it has hopelessly inadequate PG, making it harder to fit damage mods and HAMs. Often, Drake and NH useful DPS are pretty similar. Especially if you compare HAM Drake vs. HM Nighthawk (fitting HAMs on the NH is extremely difficult because of the terrible PG). The NH's strong tank is really a bit of a myth. When active-tanking, after fitting MWD and cap booster, not only do you required multiple fitting mods because of the stupid PG, you're left with trying to fit a tank into 3 midslots - and without the option of fitting an XLSB that the Sleipnir can have. Excluding rigs, that gives you a tank of ~400 DPS, which is pretty unremarkable. When buffer tanking, you can get around 110k EHP, which is pretty good, but a comparably-fit Drake can have a buffer tank of about 100k EHP. And those are just the EFT numbers. The NH is unnecessarily expensive, the fewer midslots make it far less flexible (you can't fit really fit tackle, unlike the Drake, and the stupid PG makes fitting HAMs or a gang mod virtually impossible), it has the almost completely useless precision bonus and there's still this perception that it's a "good" ship, so an opponent that sees you have a NH may end up with an exaggerated sense of your gang's capabilities, making him less likely to engage or call for support, which he may not do if he sees "only" a Drake.
Tozmeister Caldari Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.04.13 12:14:00 - [16] strangely enough, I tried a crow today and found that to be equally so much better than a condor. A corp mate reported equally impressive improvements when he compared a Zealot to an Omen. Anyone would think there was some sort of pattern here..... +++????+++Out of Cheese Error. Redo From Start+++
Shaitan Katana Caldari Panthera Joint Ops	Posted - 2008.04.13 12:31:00 - [17] Originally by: Tozmeister strangely enough, I tried a crow today and found that to be equally so much better than a condor. A corp mate reported equally impressive improvements when he compared a Zealot to an Omen. Anyone would think there was some sort of pattern here..... I think Tozmeister is onto something.. ______________________________________________________________________________________________ Only the dead have seen the end of war
Boz Well	Posted - 2008.04.13 12:33:00 - [18] Originally by: Tozmeister strangely enough, I tried a crow today and found that to be equally so much better than a condor. A corp mate reported equally impressive improvements when he compared a Zealot to an Omen. Anyone would think there was some sort of pattern here..... Lol, QFT.
Willow Falls	Posted - 2008.04.13 14:38:00 - [19] Originally by: Tozmeister strangely enough, I tried a crow today and found that to be equally so much better than a condor. A corp mate reported equally impressive improvements when he compared a Zealot to an Omen. Anyone would think there was some sort of pattern here..... I used to fly a Rupture, then I tried a Muninn...........it was ok I guess.
Atsuko Ratu Caldari VSP Corp.	Posted - 2008.04.13 15:02:00 - [20] Originally by: Ne nehn It ran me 120-130m to set up a drake somewhat decently (t2). Now, a Nighthawk would cost me 180-200 for a t2 setup. And the nighthawk, it's so much better then a drake it's not even fun. At everything. And the 70m diffrence, so worth it. Why do people bother with the drake, is there seriously not a ton of better ships out there? Obvious EFT warrior.
Vymorna Grom Caldari	Posted - 2008.04.13 15:46:00 - [21] A well-fitted Drake in the hands of a decently-skilled pilot is something you'll want to avoid in general. Don't underestimate it. ---------------------------------- Originally by: Ralara Because you touch yourself at night. (dear god, that took 9 logins to post)
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2008.04.13 16:59:00 - [22] Nighthawk isn't much better than a Drake. It's better, but IMO not _enough_ better. this is mostly down to it's awful awful powergrid. The slot layout is also a factor. (5 mids, 5 lows is a less good shield tank than 6 mids 4 lows). And actually, I find my drake setups clock in at about 70-80 mil. The hull insures for 30, making a loss cost of about 50. The Nighthawk is 170mil for the hull alone, with rigs and fit pushing that price up quite a bit. Doesn't insure for nearly that much either. Oh, and try using HAMs on both, and comparing. Guarantee you'll see the Drake doing much much better. -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking?
Squatdog DROW Org Brotherhood of the Spider	Posted - 2008.04.13 20:17:00 - [23] 1- LOL@a T2 fitted Drake costing over 100m ISK... 2- Drakes are a great Low SP ratting ship, with a ridiculous tank that isn't reliant on cap. With reasonable skills it can recharge 160dps and put out 350dps with faction ammo from 60km away.
Viscount Hood UK Corp Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.04.13 21:50:00 - [24] What exactly are you fitting on your drakes that cost that much?
Marcus Druallis Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.13 22:23:00 - [25] Originally by: Viscount Hood What exactly are you fitting on your drakes that cost that much? A combination of drone link augmentors and bulkheads. Same as anyone. --
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2008.04.13 23:07:00 - [26] Apparently nobody in this thread uses purger rigs. Shame, really. But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
Trade Me	Posted - 2008.04.14 00:23:00 - [27] only realistic fit is extender rigs btw. Your purger rigged drake will just be alpha'ed by the first gang you face.
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2008.04.14 00:38:00 - [28] I don't think so. Resist rigs are more practical for PvP. Even at max skills a Drake only gets about 1000 hit points from an extender. But extenders cost close to the same as purgers anyway (more in solitude where I live). In either case the base cost of the rigs / mods alone would come out to 70-80m. But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.

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