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DroneCommander
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Posted - 2008.04.13 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: DroneCommander on 13/04/2008 11:13:10 Perhaps you have time on your hands due to downtime, well, here's a great song by the former Nightwish lead singer Tarja!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwbtbfAnI80
Amazing voice and amazing song.
Edit: Clickified.
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DroneCommander
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Posted - 2008.04.13 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: DroneCommander on 13/04/2008 11:13:10 Perhaps you have time on your hands due to downtime, well, here's a great song by the former Nightwish lead singer Tarja!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwbtbfAnI80
Amazing voice and amazing song.
Edit: Clickified.
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DroneCommander
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Posted - 2008.04.13 11:28:00 -
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And another, Angels Fall First by Nighwtish, same singer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu59QQ0qzL0
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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
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Posted - 2008.04.13 11:33:00 -
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Yeah, she's good.
I saw Nightwish live two weeks ago, listening to Anette fail at Sirens really made me appreciate Tarja's voice.
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SCSPOOK
Caldari 16th Interspacial Dynasty The 11th Hour
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Posted - 2008.04.13 11:41:00 -
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What a seriously depressing "musical" piece. What on earth do you find good about her or that song?
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2008.04.13 11:42:00 -
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The text was too naive 
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DroneCommander
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Posted - 2008.04.13 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: DroneCommander on 13/04/2008 12:45:17
Originally by: SCSPOOK What a seriously depressing "musical" piece. What on earth do you find good about her or that song?
She's talented, beautiful, her voice is unique, she has something which is almost unexpressable kinda poetic and mystical, you either get it or you don't, and what kind of a question is that? "What do you find good about her?" do you find something not good about her? As for the song, it's your opinion you find it depressing people are different and like different things, most of the time we can't really explain why we like certain things. I could say Tarja's voice, the lyrics, the melody etc. but this is kinda obvious by what I said the first post.
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DroneCommander
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Posted - 2008.04.13 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista The text was too naive 
No idea what that comment means.
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2008.04.13 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: DroneCommander
Originally by: LaVista Vista The text was too naive 
No idea what that comment means.
The text = The lyrics.
I think the lyrics were too naive(Trivial?). At least i don't like if i can figure out what the song is about on the first listen. I like to think about the lyrics.
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DroneCommander
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Posted - 2008.04.13 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: DroneCommander
Originally by: LaVista Vista The text was too naive 
No idea what that comment means.
The text = The lyrics.
I think the lyrics were too naive(Trivial?). At least i don't like if i can figure out what the song is about on the first listen. I like to think about the lyrics.
I see, sorry about that.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2008.04.13 13:06:00 -
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Pretty generic rock-opera. She needs a better band and a better songwriter.
Oh wait, she had both but she divad it up and lost both. ---- Infiniband can do more than just prevent lag |

DroneCommander
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Posted - 2008.04.13 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: Adonis 4174 Pretty generic rock-opera. She needs a better band and a better songwriter.
Oh wait, she had both but she divad it up and lost both.
No, they lost her she didn't lose them.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2008.04.13 13:12:00 -
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Edited by: Adonis 4174 on 13/04/2008 13:14:43
Originally by: DroneCommander
Originally by: Adonis 4174 Pretty generic rock-opera. She needs a better band and a better songwriter.
Oh wait, she had both but she divad it up and lost both.
No, they lost her she didn't lose them.
They sacked her.
Edit: reference ---- Infiniband can do more than just prevent lag |

DroneCommander
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Posted - 2008.04.13 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Adonis 4174 Edited by: Adonis 4174 on 13/04/2008 13:14:43
Originally by: DroneCommander
Originally by: Adonis 4174 Pretty generic rock-opera. She needs a better band and a better songwriter.
Oh wait, she had both but she divad it up and lost both.
No, they lost her she didn't lose them.
They sacked her.
Edit: reference
It's nothing new and probably the worst mistake they ever made. So like I said they lost her and not the other way around. They also "sacked" their fans evidently.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2008.04.13 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: DroneCommander They also "sacked" their fans evidently.
So their latest album didn't really go quad-platinum some time back? ---- Infiniband can do more than just prevent lag |

DroneCommander
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Posted - 2008.04.13 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Adonis 4174 Edited by: Adonis 4174 on 13/04/2008 13:14:43
Originally by: DroneCommander
Originally by: Adonis 4174 Pretty generic rock-opera. She needs a better band and a better songwriter.
Oh wait, she had both but she divad it up and lost both.
No, they lost her she didn't lose them.
They sacked her.
Edit: reference
And that is quite simply a despicable character assasination.
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DroneCommander
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Posted - 2008.04.13 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Adonis 4174
Originally by: DroneCommander They also "sacked" their fans evidently.
So their latest album didn't really go quad-platinum some time back?
Notice the inverted commas and take a look at popular opinion especially in the cases of Anette singing Tarjas songs.
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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
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Posted - 2008.04.13 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: DroneCommander take a look at popular opinion especially in the cases of Anette singing Tarjas songs.
I would have to agree, many songs are written for a particular singer, or else a person has to be exceptionally talented to reinterpret them.
Anette did her best songs beautifully, but had a noticably difficult time with Tarja's material. When singing Sirens, it was apparent that she could not hold the notes long enough, she needed to break up into three sounds something Tarja could do in one long continuous breath. This was all the more ironic considering the name of the song.
This is no reflection on character or skill, it is a simple matter of capability.
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.04.14 01:34:00 -
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Edited by: goodby4u on 14/04/2008 01:35:58
Originally by: DroneCommander Edited by: DroneCommander on 13/04/2008 11:13:10 Perhaps you have time on your hands due to downtime, well, here's a great song by the former Nightwish lead singer Tarja!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwbtbfAnI80
Amazing voice and amazing song.
Edit: Clickified.
Im sorry its just not the same without nightwish backing her lyrics up.
Now as for anette, she isnt tarja but she does have a voice of her own and a good one at that, I tend to like them both just about the same.
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Liu Kaskakka
PAK
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Posted - 2008.04.14 05:00:00 -
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Tarja and Anette are both good with Nightwish. Tarja without Nightwish is rubbish. King Liu is RIGHT!!
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DroneCommander
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Posted - 2008.04.14 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: goodby4u Edited by: goodby4u on 14/04/2008 01:35:58
Originally by: DroneCommander Edited by: DroneCommander on 13/04/2008 11:13:10 Perhaps you have time on your hands due to downtime, well, here's a great song by the former Nightwish lead singer Tarja!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwbtbfAnI80
Amazing voice and amazing song.
Edit: Clickified.
Im sorry its just not the same without nightwish backing her lyrics up.
Now as for anette, she isnt tarja but she does have a voice of her own and a good one at that, I tend to like them both just about the same.
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DroneCommander
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Posted - 2008.04.14 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Liu Kaskakka Tarja and Anette are both good with Nightwish. Tarja without Nightwish is rubbish.
That's your opinion but please don't state it as fact. |

Daelorn
Dark Cartel Synchr0nicity
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Posted - 2008.04.14 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: DroneCommander
Originally by: Liu Kaskakka Tarja and Anette are both good with Nightwish. Tarja without Nightwish is rubbish.
That's your opinion but please don't state it as fact.
But this man only spews out facts.
HAVE YOU NOT SEEN HIS SIG?
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.04.14 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: DroneCommander
Originally by: goodby4u Edited by: goodby4u on 14/04/2008 01:35:58
Originally by: DroneCommander Edited by: DroneCommander on 13/04/2008 11:13:10 Perhaps you have time on your hands due to downtime, well, here's a great song by the former Nightwish lead singer Tarja!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwbtbfAnI80
Amazing voice and amazing song.
Edit: Clickified.
Im sorry its just not the same without nightwish backing her lyrics up.
Now as for anette, she isnt tarja but she does have a voice of her own and a good one at that, I tend to like them both just about the same.
Why are you sorry? have you done something wrong?
.....No, I guess a better phrase would be.
Im sorry but I must disagree with you...
I simplified it, dont ask its an american thing... |

DroneCommander
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Posted - 2008.04.14 15:54:00 -
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Edited by: DroneCommander on 14/04/2008 15:55:43
Originally by: goodby4u
Originally by: DroneCommander
Originally by: goodby4u Edited by: goodby4u on 14/04/2008 01:35:58
Originally by: DroneCommander Edited by: DroneCommander on 13/04/2008 11:13:10 Perhaps you have time on your hands due to downtime, well, here's a great song by the former Nightwish lead singer Tarja!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwbtbfAnI80
Amazing voice and amazing song.
Edit: Clickified.
Im sorry its just not the same without nightwish backing her lyrics up.
Now as for anette, she isnt tarja but she does have a voice of her own and a good one at that, I tend to like them both just about the same.
Why are you sorry? have you done something wrong?
.....No, I guess a better phrase would be.
Im sorry but I must disagree with you...
I simplified it, dont ask its an american thing...
Hehe that's cool, I think I kinda understood though just wanted to ask. |

Radoslav Pirs
PAK
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Posted - 2008.04.14 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Liu Kaskakka Tarja and Anette are both good with Nightwish. Tarja without Nightwish is rubbish.
Please do not ruin the PAK name by saying anything nice about Nightwish. In this case King Liu is NOT right!
(BTW - you better be there next weekend!) |

Eternal Hatred
Amarr Pantsu Garu Limited Technologies
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Posted - 2008.04.15 12:30:00 -
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LOL! Finnish people are fail people anyway. _________________
It's great being an Amarr, isn't it??? :( |

Rawr Cristina
Caldari Naqam
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Posted - 2008.04.15 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: DroneCommander
Originally by: Adonis 4174 Edited by: Adonis 4174 on 13/04/2008 13:14:43
Originally by: DroneCommander
Originally by: Adonis 4174 Pretty generic rock-opera. She needs a better band and a better songwriter.
Oh wait, she had both but she divad it up and lost both.
No, they lost her she didn't lose them.
They sacked her.
Edit: reference
It's nothing new and probably the worst mistake they ever made. So like I said they lost her and not the other way around. They also "sacked" their fans evidently.
I honestly don't get what they were thinking. Sacking the lead singer of a female-fronted rock band was never going to end well, esp. when they have such a distinctive voice. Could you imagine Evanescence without Amy Lee? 
the whole thing was over the males in the band having an emo jealousy fit that they wern't getting enough attention anyway. ...
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QwaarJet
Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.04.15 13:03:00 -
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Yeah Tarja's album is pretty good.....I Walk Alone is brilliant.
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Chaosgabe TWC
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Posted - 2008.04.15 13:58:00 -
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You . . . you¦re all nasty emo¦s! o.0
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.04.15 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Adonis 4174 Pretty generic rock-opera. She needs a better band and a better songwriter.
Oh wait, she had both but she divad it up and lost both.
NW's music would have always been pretty generic and forgettable rock opera, if it wasn't for their lead singerÆs unique voice. I'm not much of a fan of NW, however, objectively speaking, their new lead sounds pretty generic and is nowhere near Tarja Turunen's singing ability.
The success of their latest album is, IMO, in no way a measure of their new quality, unless, off course, you feel that sales numbers and talent is one and the same. ...
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.04.15 16:54:00 -
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They're right up there with Aqua.
These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade! |

DroneCommander
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.04.15 18:11:00 -
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Edited by: DroneCommander on 15/04/2008 18:14:08
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Originally by: DroneCommander
Originally by: Adonis 4174 Edited by: Adonis 4174 on 13/04/2008 13:14:43
Originally by: DroneCommander
Originally by: Adonis 4174 Pretty generic rock-opera. She needs a better band and a better songwriter.
Oh wait, she had both but she divad it up and lost both.
No, they lost her she didn't lose them.
They sacked her.
Edit: reference
It's nothing new and probably the worst mistake they ever made. So like I said they lost her and not the other way around. They also "sacked" their fans evidently.
I honestly don't get what they were thinking. Sacking the lead singer of a female-fronted rock band was never going to end well, esp. when they have such a distinctive voice. Could you imagine Evanescence without Amy Lee? 
the whole thing was over the males in the band having an emo jealousy fit that they wern't getting enough attention anyway.
Totally agree with you, when she walked on stage everyone went wild and I don't think the males liked that one bit, but the lead singer is pretty much always envied for the adoration they recieve from the fans. If it wasn't for Tarja I don't think Nightwish would have ever achieved what they achieved. -------------
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Gojyu
Ever Flow
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Posted - 2008.04.15 23:22:00 -
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Quote: If it wasn't for Tarja I don't think Nightwish would have ever achieved what they achieved.
True, but the success of dark passion play has shown without a doubt they no longer need her, and probably haven't for a long time. If the kind of stuff in that open letter was true, I'd have fired her ass too. Nothing worse than a diva in a relatively minor band
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Batwigg
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Posted - 2008.04.15 23:40:00 -
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I think it's hilarious how all the Tarja fanboys are raging about her being kicked.
Her new album is, well, ****. She's just trying to cash on Nightwish's fame. I expected more, tbfh, not just a straight by-the-numbers mediocre Nightwish ripoff. It's painfully obvious that while she is a awesome singer, she's a ****ty artist, with the creative talent of a, well, something with no creative talent.
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F'lan Ker
Caldari EntroPraetorian Legion EntroPraetorian Aegis
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Posted - 2008.04.16 05:36:00 -
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Well, their music might be generic rock opera as you say. But IMO their new bass player/vocalist Marco Hietala added more to NW than lead singer change. He brought in some more harder elements. Even my musical taste is far heavier than NW or similar they are still better than any of this techno/rap junk spewing from every channel and horn. -----------------------------------------------------
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.04.16 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: F'lan Ker Well, their music might be generic rock opera as you say. But IMO their new bass player/vocalist Marco Hietala added more to NW than lead singer change. He brought in some more harder elements. Even my musical taste is far heavier than NW or similar they are still better than any of this techno/rap junk spewing from every channel and horn.
I agree. I like the music on their last album much better than their previous stuff, I just don't like hearing their new female lead straining to try and hide her limited vocal ability (this is truly painful to watch during their live performances).
However, with all these changes and additions, NW is now a different band. ...
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Kalahari Wayrest
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.04.16 17:04:00 -
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The new singer made some of Nightwish's songs listenable for me. Dunno why, just can't stand the old one's voice. I guess I just don't like operatic warbling, uncultured as I am  |

Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.04.16 23:26:00 -
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Nope , neither party will go anywhere close to their former glory. It doesn't take much to wreck a perfectly good team. Can't blame nightwish for trying to survive , and while Tarja obviously didn't forget how to sing I don't expect her to show much creativity.
It was a brief moment of brilliance in history. Like the privateers. |
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