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DiaBlo UK
Precision Engineering Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.15 09:24:00 -
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tbh, it doesn't really matter what the numbers were... although i didn't see anywhere near 50 ATF(?). and the only accurate accounts i can remember of hostiles was 400+ in BKG and 150-200 in OP ready to jump in... so taking minimum numbers i'd say 5500 for them, 300 for us(i took max reported for us 250 INSRG + 50 ATF(?))
the lag ruled the day. the bits of it that were playable were fun, all i can keep thinking is how much fun it would be if you could actually get that many people in system and still have the game move at more than 1 action per 10mins...
i would like to say thank you to MM and RZR for having the balls to jump in...
you knew what was there and what was likely to happen, but you took the chance... that took some balls.
i am looking forward to some more fights, hopefully with less people on both sides and alot less lag :)
thanx for the epic (but laggy) fight..
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Katherine Marx
Muff Diving
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Posted - 2008.04.15 09:39:00 -
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wow. insurgency wins 1 fight and suddenly they own the North. you guys did well I have to admit but I wouldn't let your heads swell up so much you can't fit through a doorway. all you did was fighterbomb a bunch of sub-capitals. impressive. i'm sure they will lay down and give you EVE now.
at any rate, i'm still waiting to see what the northern coalition brings in capital wise. until then enjoy your little carrier gang****.
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Reacz
Caldari Empirius Enigmus Navy Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.15 09:43:00 -
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Edited by: Reacz on 15/04/2008 09:43:33
Originally by: Katherine Marx wow. insurgency wins 1 fight and suddenly they own the North. you guys did well I have to admit but I wouldn't let your heads swell up so much you can't fit through a doorway. all you did was fighterbomb a bunch of sub-capitals. impressive. i'm sure they will lay down and give you EVE now.
at any rate, i'm still waiting to see what the northern coalition brings in capital wise. until then enjoy your little carrier gang****.
I would enjoy my carrier gang**** but my head seems to have become stuck in the door!
OH NOES!
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Shiodome
Caldari Black Sea Industries Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.15 09:47:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Katherine Marx wow. insurgency wins 1 fight and suddenly they own the North. you guys did well I have to admit but I wouldn't let your heads swell up so much you can't fit through a doorway. all you did was fighterbomb a bunch of sub-capitals. impressive. i'm sure they will lay down and give you EVE now.
at any rate, i'm still waiting to see what the northern coalition brings in capital wise. until then enjoy your little carrier gang****.
good point, tbh this IS the first fight we've ever won, we shouldn't be proud of ourselves for just that. feel bad for the coalition members though, your leadership are really letting you down _____________________________________ today i am this cool: [uncool]================[*]====[cool]
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Butter Dog
The Littlest Hobos Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.15 09:53:00 -
[155]
Lets be clear about the numbers: Coaltion had over 400 in BKG, and 200 jumped in from OP9. Thats 600. They had caps on standby. HYDRA got caught with their pants down on the way, but that would have been another 130. So their numbers were at least 800 in total. Local numbers before they jumped in never topped 270.
Of the 600 who jumped into Z-K, about 400 are now dead, and the rest will die when they log in :)
Lag effected us very badly, but we actively and calmly managed it through various means (such as Darths special ability to see BS no-one else could, and activate his fighters ).
Fighters don't auto-aggro. I know this because my carrier had drones out for 5 hours and didnt get on a single killmail until very late in the fight when I could actually assign the little buggers. However, if you shoot a carrier they will aggro, but that requires you to lock and fire (ie, not be totally lagged out).
We won the fight because the coalitions only tactic was 'uberblob' and I can only imagine they were hoping for a node crash. I have no respect whatsoever for this approach to playing EVE and I'm not going to pretend I do. They got what they deserved.
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Deva Blackfire
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.15 10:03:00 -
[156]
Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 15/04/2008 10:05:44 Can any of INSRG post some stats of what was killed/died? That engagement was so long that your KB doesnt show whole picture :X
EDIT: nvm counted kill pages (30 kill/page)... got bored around page 13 ;p
So that will be 370-400kills. Nice work |
Reacz
Caldari Empirius Enigmus Navy Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.15 10:04:00 -
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Edited by: Reacz on 15/04/2008 10:04:40
Originally by: Deva Blackfire Can any of INSRG post some stats of what was killed/died? That engagement was so long that your KB doesnt show whole picture :X
I lived, if that makes any difference. :P
/me rubs Vulture |
enymphia
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.15 10:10:00 -
[158]
WTS: cheap rigs!
Linkage |
Ur235
MAFIA
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Posted - 2008.04.15 10:14:00 -
[159]
Edited by: Ur235 on 15/04/2008 10:21:12 Maybe now we will see sum proper tactics used that dont crash the node the gonnswarm blob tactic isnt as usefull as it used to be. Maybe the attackers will actually have to think about how they plan to attack INSRG instead of hitting straight at there station systems,
Tbh you guys could probably bloackade all of INSRG space and reduce there effectivness of getting bs to the front line This is what TRI did when they attacked Youwhat they slowly moved in and blockaded alot of there systems so by the time they went after Youwhats home system Youwhat hardly had any ships left to defend it as they had all been killed elsewhere
Maybe Rzr and co could try this you certianly have the numbers to shut down there space instead of all going to 1 area think about it, INSRG arent exactly known for there industrial capabilities after all |
Plague Black
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.04.15 10:23:00 -
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800 nubmer is caca de toro. 500 is more correct. 200 jumped trough OP and 300 tried to jump in from BKG. Those who were not there can not be counted so leave Hydra out of it.
Ins had some 260 in the system at the start of the conflict, around 35-50 cap ships with fighters and drones deployed on the gate (I think our scout counted some 350+ fighters when the fight started). Average module lag was 20 minutes for the lucky few who acctually managed to fire shots, but there were some 300 people on our side that could not load the system for longer then 2 hours. I was unable to lock anything for more then 3 hours.
Again we cleaned Ins support but caps remained. Again they kept comming back and were killed one by one but we could not break the tank on any of the caps. Again people were dying to fighters before they loaded the grid (sometimes even system). RAWR killed some 50 fighters in the second part of the battle when there were no Ins non-caps ships to be targeted. But ins held the field thanks to cap spider-tank and fighters.
That's about it.
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General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.04.15 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Plague Black Again we cleaned Ins support but caps remained. Again they kept comming back and were killed one by one but we could not break the tank on any of the caps. Again people were dying to fighters before they loaded the grid (sometimes even system).
So if those tactics never work for you it's pretty stupid to just repeat them again. Silly coalition.
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Delichon
The First Foundation Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2008.04.15 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ur235 Edited by: Ur235 on 15/04/2008 10:21:12 ...
A few things: a) Z-K is not a station system (unless INSURG have put a new outpost there)It's a strategic gate point to Northern Branch. b) When INSURG took over Northern Branch from Stella and Phoenix - they started by taking Z-K. c) I can't comment on possible tactics to take over a system that is camped by carrier blob with an active cynojammer - because I am a noob :( Yet I would think there is very little one can do, except than just throw in superior numbers, preferrably at the moment of the enemy's lowest prime-time. |
Butter Dog
The Littlest Hobos Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.15 10:41:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Plague Black 800 nubmer is caca de toro. 500 is more correct.
Wrong. 200 jumped in from OP9, and there were 450 in BKG. 130 hydra got stuck on the way.
What does that figure add up to? Don't try and excuse your mindless blobbing by saying 'oh it was only 500' like it makes any difference.
I've had 4 hours sleep thanks to you guys so I'm not feeling charitable with my words today
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Varrakk
Phantom Squad Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.15 10:43:00 -
[164]
Much of NF2's failure in Z-K last night, is because they dont understand INSRG.
Putting a uberblob at the other side of the gate wont intimidate us. Seeing local rise by 200 made us carrier pilots giggle.
We dont fear numbers, only skill. |
XxAngelxX
Amarr The Illuminati. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.15 10:46:00 -
[165]
Well, both sides thought the other was going to attack, I can just imagine MM and RzR felt more stupid with their 700 people CTA so had to jump in to save face.
Looks like a fun fight lol, I'd say well done insurgency but it should be more like unlucky northern coalition for having to jump in, I doubt the fight had anythign to do with tactics/skill.
So where's it going from here then? |
domadworkkid
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Posted - 2008.04.15 10:47:00 -
[166]
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Reacz
Caldari Empirius Enigmus Navy Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.15 10:49:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Varrakk
We dont fear numbers, only skill.
And bananas.
Damn you BANANAS!!11 |
Angelonico
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.04.15 10:59:00 -
[168]
Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: Plague Black Again we cleaned Ins support but caps remained. Again they kept comming back and were killed one by one but we could not break the tank on any of the caps. Again people were dying to fighters before they loaded the grid (sometimes even system).
So if those tactics never work for you it's pretty stupid to just repeat them again. Silly coalition.
Since your posts are always so awful, it's pretty stupid to keep doing it. Silly windypops.
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hi2urpod
Caldari Racketeers
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Posted - 2008.04.15 11:01:00 -
[169]
Cheast beat all you want insurgency Razer will soon whip the floor with you.You time is soon to be done and over you push the northern lords they will push back.These actions only serve to better the northern pod jockeys and they will crush you head! Fighting for peace is like f00king for virginity... makes no sense. |
Alyth
Gallente Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.15 11:03:00 -
[170]
Originally by: hi2urpod Cheast beat all you want insurgency Razer will soon whip the floor with you.You time is soon to be done and over you push the northern lords they will push back.These actions only serve to better the northern pod jockeys and they will crush you head!
How many alliances will you bring this time?
GF to everyone else though. I love Violet! It is the prettiest color in the whole wide world!!! I like toast. Naviagtor
Gah! Curse you all! |
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Lord EmBra
DAB
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Posted - 2008.04.15 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: XxAngelxX So where's it going from here then?
Same as always I would guess ;) Adapt and overcome |
hi2urpod
Caldari Racketeers
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Posted - 2008.04.15 11:08:00 -
[172]
Razer vs insecurity
amirite? |
darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.15 11:10:00 -
[173]
Originally by: hi2urpod Cheast beat all you want insurgency Razer will soon whip the floor with you.You time is soon to be done and over you push the northern lords they will push back.These actions only serve to better the northern pod jockeys and they will crush you head!
u see thats the point, we dont really care.
INSRG was started to fight, win or lose we fight. the fun was never in the end outcome its always been about getting there for us. outposts etc?, they hold little real value for us. INSRG will die on its feet fighting. it wont fade away, i wont allow that.
Just for the record i still like RZR etc, ur good guys and deffo no bad feelings, although the uber blob is a little silly.
ill keep the guys in check and wont allow smacking ingame.
d solo. |
Fuglife
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.15 11:13:00 -
[174]
I think he was mucking about... |
Meirre K'Tun
Helios Incorporated Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.15 11:15:00 -
[175]
Originally by: darth solo
Originally by: hi2urpod Cheast beat all you want insurgency Razer will soon whip the floor with you.You time is soon to be done and over you push the northern lords they will push back.These actions only serve to better the northern pod jockeys and they will crush you head!
u see thats the point, we dont really care.
INSRG was started to fight, win or lose we fight. the fun was never in the end outcome its always been about getting there for us. outposts etc?, they hold little real value for us. INSRG will die on its feet fighting. it wont fade away, i wont allow that.
Just for the record i still like RZR etc, ur good guys and deffo no bad feelings, although the uber blob is a little silly.
ill keep the guys in check and wont allow smacking ingame.
d solo.
are we allowed to smack each other?
a question: i saw a 50'ish strong stella polar gang ~40 minutes before the big lag, did they come too? don't really want to browse trough all the killmails... |
Jukio
Gallente LFC Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.15 11:19:00 -
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Edited by: Jukio on 15/04/2008 11:19:27 I think we got the three headed monkey though, he was a good sport about it and left us some bananas, made some banana cake with it to have with the space cake.
Somebody was enjoying a smoke inhaling contraption that made a very tempting gurgling sound. As for the attempted node-crash well better luck next time. Havent been there, havent done it and NO, dont have the friggin T-shirt
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Xtreme Wrath
Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.15 11:20:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Reacz
Originally by: Varrakk
We dont fear numbers, only skill.
And bananas.
Damn you BANANAS!!11
...personally I have a phobia about clowns...
I saw Stephen King's "IT" once and havent been quite right ever since....
Chuck Norris uses a live rattlesnake for a condom. |
Muadeeb Ousil
Minmatar Office linebackers Odyssey.
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Posted - 2008.04.15 11:25:00 -
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While ive no interest in who won/lost - on a side note to my old freind butter dog
Fighter drones can be attached to support ships, the fighter drones then auto agro as the Frig/cruisers/battleships are targeted.
You are not on any km's because at the last patch Carriers assigning fighters no longer appear on km's (Bit poo really).
Only if you directly engage a target or as you stated are auto aggroed with drones out do you get on the km now.
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Rowan Chiquar
The Knights of the New Republic Giant Space Amoeba
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Posted - 2008.04.15 11:27:00 -
[179]
well I'm amazed that Aleks called this so early and won out.
And to miss a lag fest fleet fight due to university ftl! Can't say much more but BL Rzr/MM and the Northern Coalition take 2 and Damn Insurgency won again.... (thats a few too many fella's gives us a chance =P)
CEO TKNR
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hi2urpod
Caldari Racketeers
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Posted - 2008.04.15 11:27:00 -
[180]
Edited by: hi2urpod on 15/04/2008 11:28:15 2 xtreme ::
Many of us mistake Phobia for true fear. Whereas fear is a gift from God to be used for self-preservation. Phobia are obstacles strategically placed in society by opposers of positive existence. Through stereotyping, innuendo, false documentation, and glorification they'll turn your fear switch to a permanent on. We can change this by changing the small truth within' the lie. Death is a small price to pay for respect. Death is a small price to pay for respect. You know who it is.You know what it is. Peace out.
Fighting for peace is like f00king for virginity... makes no sense. |
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