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TradeOrDie	Posted - 2008.04.14 17:37:00 - [1] Edited by: TradeOrDie on 14/04/2008 17:40:36 ExoSkeleton
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2008.04.14 17:55:00 - [2] Wow. These things are all looking so fluid now. EVE RELATED CONTENT
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.04.14 18:03:00 - [3] SWEET ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8)
Kyanzes Amarr Utopian Research I.E.L. The ENTITY.	Posted - 2008.04.14 18:09:00 - [4] I want two of those. --------------------------------------------- GET TO THE CHOPPA!!! The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
Gyfrex	Posted - 2008.04.14 18:09:00 - [5] Edited by: Gyfrex on 14/04/2008 18:11:33 ill take 100, fully armoured please, I'm planning to invade the antarctic circle and enslave the penguins. ---
DroneCommander	Posted - 2008.04.14 18:11:00 - [6] Edited by: DroneCommander on 14/04/2008 18:13:22 It's great but also scary if these were to fall into the wrong hands, think Juggernaut
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.14 18:17:00 - [7] Forget the military- what you're looking at there is the future extinction of the forklift truck ------ Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.04.14 18:19:00 - [8] Actually im surprised it took so long, I mean its not a hugely complicated device. And im guessing the suit would either be made of titanium, ceramics, plastics, or more likely....Carbon nanotubes(1/6 the weight of steel...One hell of alot stronger).
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.04.14 18:20:00 - [9] That would be great if you wanted the enemy to die laughing ------------------Sig-------------------------- Goons' greatest Pubbie!
Sereifex Daku Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.04.14 18:22:00 - [10] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny That would be great if you wanted the enemy to die laughing Oh what do you know? You're jsut a civilian.

Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.04.14 18:24:00 - [11] Originally by: Sereifex Daku Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny That would be great if you wanted the enemy to die laughing Oh what do you know? You're jsut a civilian. That was uncalled for ------------------Sig-------------------------- Goons' greatest Pubbie!
goodby4u Logistic Technologies Incorporated	Posted - 2008.04.14 18:28:00 - [12] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny That would be great if you wanted the enemy to die laughing Actually think of that in crime, I mean you hold up a bank in that full armored suit and laugh when they try to snipe you in the face.
Sereifex Daku Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.04.14 18:29:00 - [13] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny That was uncalled for My apologies, I'm in a somewhat dark mood at the mo.
Sqalevon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.04.14 18:52:00 - [14] Originally by: goodby4u Actually im surprised it took so long, I mean its not a hugely complicated device. And im guessing the suit would either be made of titanium, ceramics, plastics, or more likely....Carbon nanotubes(1/6 the weight of steel...One hell of alot stronger). Actually it is a hugely complicated device. Maybe not on paper ( hinges + motors + software = gogogo ) but the quality and weight of the hinges without high maintenance is quite tricky to achieve. also the software for such a machine wasnt available until now ( at least not with such smoothness. Also nanotubes are great little creations but its expensive to make them and they are pretty hard to use as a construction material. I wonder what one of these would cost :)
Benco97 Gallente Exchangable Properties	Posted - 2008.04.14 19:15:00 - [15] Anyone remember the Goliath suit project? Originally by: Kirjava This man speaks the truth, when he farts we count the length in seconds and make squillions buying winning lottery tickets.
Sqalevon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.04.14 20:06:00 - [16] you mean that guy in the bearsuit ?
Benco97 Gallente Exchangable Properties	Posted - 2008.04.14 20:09:00 - [17] No, I mean the US army's Goliath project, it was a suit that looked very much like Asimo but was many years before that. It was scrapped for some reason, power issues I'd imagine. Originally by: Kirjava This man speaks the truth, when he farts we count the length in seconds and make squillions buying winning lottery tickets.
Sqalevon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.04.14 20:19:00 - [18] Hmm, havent heard of the name, was it the powered legs with backpack contraption ? That could be loaded with 80pound and run 40 miles a day on a gallon of petrol IIRC. Making life easier for the soldier, not having to cary his load.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.04.14 20:43:00 - [19] Old movie is old? -----
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.04.14 20:57:00 - [20] Originally by: Sqalevon Hmm, havent heard of the name, was it the powered legs with backpack contraption ? That could be loaded with 80pound and run 40 miles a day on a gallon of petrol IIRC. Making life easier for the soldier, not having to cary his load. That that crazy looking robot mule that looked like it was dancing? ------------------Sig-------------------------- Goons' greatest Pubbie!

Sqalevon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.04.14 21:01:00 - [21] No, I mean something different :) Let me try and find it.
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2008.04.14 21:33:00 - [22] Originally by: Gyfrex Edited by: Gyfrex on 14/04/2008 18:11:33 ill take 100, fully armoured please, I'm planning to invade the antarctic circle and enslave the penguins. You heartless bastard! Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.04.14 21:38:00 - [23] One step closer to the Spartain armor of Halo. Actually I wonder how much longer until we start seeing things like that.
Mauy Thai North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.04.14 22:06:00 - [24] I dont need a robot to walk up stairs...
pwnedgato	Posted - 2008.04.14 22:09:00 - [25] Originally by: Mauy Thai I dont need a robot to walk up stairs... Sure but wouldn't you want a robot to walk up stairs? Also someone dig up that video of a Honda ASIMO falling down during a trade show or something. Originally by: Crumplecorn These is a forum for this.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.14 22:15:00 - [26] Originally by: pwnedgato Originally by: Mauy Thai I dont need a robot to walk up stairs... Sure but wouldn't you want a robot to walk up stairs? Also someone dig up that video of a Honda ASIMO falling down during a trade show or something. Yah? Always good for a giggle. All I ever think when I see that video is "If that were a British trade show, there would be rapturous applause and laughing at that". The audience there just gives a shocked gasp! Those foreigners just aren't British, you know... ------ Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
pwnedgato	Posted - 2008.04.14 22:37:00 - [27] Thanks. Now through a combination of several pieces of software I have laying around I now have a ~10 second loop of that robot falling for my desktop! Originally by: Crumplecorn These is a forum for this.
Sqalevon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.04.14 23:05:00 - [28] Originally by: Jacob Mei One step closer to the Spartain armor of Halo. Actually I wonder how much longer until we start seeing things like that. Like this ?
Sodium Phosphate Gallente Ganja Labs Insurgency	Posted - 2008.04.15 01:35:00 - [29] Originally by: Sqalevon Originally by: Jacob Mei One step closer to the Spartain armor of Halo. Actually I wonder how much longer until we start seeing things like that. Like this ? That suit is a freakin joke, just body armor. No strength augmentation and just gets in the way, not to mention a hassle to get to anything.
MAXSuicide Quam Singulari Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.15 01:43:00 - [30] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 15/04/2008 01:44:35 Originally by: Sqalevon No, I mean something different :) Let me try and find it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkBEDy3eA1o&feature=related that? Originally by: Sodium Phosphate That suit is a freakin joke, just body armor. No strength augmentation and just gets in the way, not to mention a hassle to get to anything. it seems pretty mobile to me.. and tbh what he's done with not much of a budget is pretty ******* great when government throw millions away to get nowhere over decades

Sodium Phosphate Gallente Ganja Labs Insurgency	Posted - 2008.04.15 02:13:00 - [31] Edited by: Sodium Phosphate on 15/04/2008 02:13:46 Originally by: MAXSuicide it seems pretty mobile to me.. and tbh what he's done with not much of a budget is pretty ******* great when government throw millions away to get nowhere over decades I'll admit I can think of some situations where that suit might be practical, like door busting operations and as a first one in kind of situation. But tbh there is better and more lightweight pieces of armor that I'd rather have my men wear on the field. Unless that oval on the helmet is a camera, and the inside has a HUD, that helmet restricts your view way too much. The suit has to weigh more that 40lbs, so there is no way a soldier will carry the standard pack he wears today with that on, just a gun and ammo with a little extra. I'll give him props to make a cheap suit. But there are reasons why the DoD puts so much money in stronger smaller things, not plastic juggernaut armor.
Cipher7 Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.04.15 02:45:00 - [32] If you can build an exoskeleton why not just build a robot to do all the fighting. Maybe not for "peacekeeping" but you could definitely make a robot you can drop anywhere in the world and have it waste anything that moves. Imagine, bomber flies over target, drops 10 bombs, plus 1 robot, bombs go off, robot floats down on parachute programmed to kill anything that moves in a 500 yard radius until battery runs out or say 1 week.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.04.15 05:27:00 - [33] Originally by: Cipher7 If you can build an exoskeleton why not just build a robot to do all the fighting. Maybe not for "peacekeeping" but you could definitely make a robot you can drop anywhere in the world and have it waste anything that moves. Imagine, bomber flies over target, drops 10 bombs, plus 1 robot, bombs go off, robot floats down on parachute programmed to kill anything that moves in a 500 yard radius until battery runs out or say 1 week. That would violate the 2nd law of robotics ------------------Sig-------------------------- Goons' greatest Pubbie!
Rialtor Amarr Yarrrateers	Posted - 2008.04.15 05:44:00 - [34] Originally by: Cipher7 If you can build an exoskeleton why not just build a robot to do all the fighting. Maybe not for "peacekeeping" but you could definitely make a robot you can drop anywhere in the world and have it waste anything that moves. Imagine, bomber flies over target, drops 10 bombs, plus 1 robot, bombs go off, robot floats down on parachute programmed to kill anything that moves in a 500 yard radius until battery runs out or say 1 week. cause it would be hard to make an ai that can navigate any terrain, as well as identify threats and act as quickly as the human mind is capable of reacting currently. I mean asimo has trouble with stairs. I posted a vid the other day of a 4 legged robot that walked well, but it doesn't compare to this suit really. In the mean time exoskeletons are the way to go for any sort of mech type suit. plus once that level of ai is achieved and the war with the robots start we'll have to rely on out exosuits to take them down ;). ---- sig ---- Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world... Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has.
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2008.04.16 21:28:00 - [35] Originally by: MAXSuicide it seems pretty mobile to me.. and tbh what he's done with not much of a budget is pretty ******* great when government throw millions away to get nowhere over decades Seems like a joke to me too. He may be covered head to foot but that does not mean he is protected in any meaningful way. Look like he has freaking dirt bike pads on with a couple add-ons for ammo and helmet fans and calls it an armored suit. I'd be much happier in Dragon Skin Armor (really exists, you can buy it today at reasonable prices) -------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
Havok Dryke Golden Gavel Enterprises The Cooperative	Posted - 2008.04.17 00:15:00 - [36] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Originally by: MAXSuicide it seems pretty mobile to me.. and tbh what he's done with not much of a budget is pretty ******* great when government throw millions away to get nowhere over decades Seems like a joke to me too. He may be covered head to foot but that does not mean he is protected in any meaningful way. Look like he has freaking dirt bike pads on with a couple add-ons for ammo and helmet fans and calls it an armored suit. I'd be much happier in Dragon Skin Armor (really exists, you can buy it today at reasonable prices) Strap DragonSkin on those armoured versions and you have win squared ------------------------------ EVE is a cold, harsh world, filled with people that would kill you without a second thought. The forums are even worse.
Fraszoid Caldari ULTRA VEGA	Posted - 2008.04.17 01:36:00 - [37] I'm sure there is no shortage of military applications for that exoskeleton, but my real interest is in helping disabled people. A good family friend of mine has a bad case of Muscular Dystrophy, and is bound to a wheel chair to get around, and has limited lower body strength. Just a balanced lower chassis would work wonders for people like her to help them get around more easily and be more productive.
Constantine Arcanum IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.	Posted - 2008.04.17 08:39:00 - [38] An exoskeleton would be preferable to a full robot in my opinion because humans are more articulate and nimble than any AI, they are less predictable and have creativity, which would be more valuable in a real life situation. Plus, electronics could easily become damaged by heat or blunt shock, whereas a human protected by the armour could just put up with it. Plus we'd have Space Marines!
TimGascoigne	Posted - 2008.04.17 11:23:00 - [39] I must have one of those right now.............. I will do anything to get one......anything, do you hear me any favor, anytime anyplace! But speaking more seriously it is entirely possible that one day these exoskeletons are not a new toy but a refined technology and dere I say it may one day become affordable. Think about it you could have stuff in a warehouse able to lift almost any weight. Construction workers able to carry hundreds of bricks around a site. Or Mountain rescue works that can run at high speed for hours on end up hills carrying heavy equipment to reach the damsel in distress you can see why I absolutely cannot wait for this to come of age.
Vladimir Ilych Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.04.17 14:58:00 - [40] I am assuming it is electric powered given the lack of an exhaust! So how long does the battery last? That is the most important question for me.

lofty29 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.04.17 20:50:00 - [41] Originally by: Sodium Phosphate Originally by: Sqalevon Originally by: Jacob Mei One step closer to the Spartain armor of Halo. Actually I wonder how much longer until we start seeing things like that. Like this ? That suit is a freakin joke, just body armor. No strength augmentation and just gets in the way, not to mention a hassle to get to anything. It's 50lb when fully assembled. US soldiers carry at least that at the moment, and the suit has a lot of the stuff they have to carry built into it, meaning the actual added weight is only about 30lb. 30lb. 2 and a half stone.
Bahhs Deep	Posted - 2008.04.17 23:06:00 - [42] One thing people are forgetting...The way this exoskeleton is setup, it will be able to take the weight of whatever it is carrying off of the "operator". Plus WILL have some kind of weight limit as to how much it can carry either on its' back or with the arms. Probably some kind of "comibined" weight limit as well. I would imagine the arms might be able to lift somewhere near 500lbs or so, maybe as low as 400lbs. I would assume "backpack" weight would be about the same. It all really depends on how much weight the entire unit can sustain, and how long the battery lasts. I predict that we will have some ridiculously powerful batteries within the next 20 years or so. I mean hell, look at how the computer and memory cards have come in the past 20 years!
P'uck	Posted - 2008.04.18 03:59:00 - [43] Originally by: Sqalevon Originally by: Jacob Mei One step closer to the Spartain armor of Halo. Actually I wonder how much longer until we start seeing things like that. Like this ? that guy has some serious issues. and he really is serious about that suit oO
Sqalevon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.04.18 07:26:00 - [44] Originally by: MAXSuicide Edited by: MAXSuicide on 15/04/2008 01:44:35 Originally by: Sqalevon No, I mean something different :) Let me try and find it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkBEDy3eA1o&feature=related that? That's the one ! :) Thanks

CCP Whisper	Posted - 2008.04.18 08:57:00 - [45] Well for those of you with a load of disposable income, you may want to rent a working exoskeleton suit for the bargain price of $1000 a month. 2 hours and 40 minutes of battery life...maybe I'll rent one of these next time I have to move house. It would certainly make shifting the furniture up and down stairs a lot easier. No need for a van, just carry the sofa to the new place.



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