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torswin
Silver Snake Enterprise
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Posted - 2008.04.16 15:34:00 -
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Edited by: torswin on 16/04/2008 15:34:42
I am not paranoid, I am just aware of how easy it is to run a rainbow table and get most non-strong tables in a matter of minutes.
Having strong passwords should be encuraged by the system.
Edit: If there was any wonder, I am the original poster. I used wrong character :)
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torswin
Silver Snake Enterprise
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Posted - 2008.04.16 15:39:00 -
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 Originally by: Martin Mckenna
this is ********....with a combination on letters and numbers who the hell is gona guess that.
Seriously get a grip and think...
I suggest that you try your password through a rainbow table, and be amazed. Did that and now I basicly only use strong passwords.
What is wrong with having support for us, apparently, paranoid? 
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torswin
Silver Snake Enterprise
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Posted - 2008.04.16 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
What does the OP think he is protecting here? This is a game, not Bill Gate's bank account or the launch codes for the US nuclear missile system.
Between your login ID and password (which can be numbers and letters) you should be plenty safe. If someone is nabbing your info en route somehow then a strong password won't help anyway.
A friend and I were goofing around in our office computer room and using a brute force hack for a Window's logon password (not hacking a production machine...just one we would bang around on for testing and what not). When we used 8 letters IIRC it said it could get the answer in several hours. When we added numbers and upper/lower case the program told us it'd take 3 or more months.
In short you can make plenty strong passwords for something like a game. If you really, really care then change your password every few days.
Brute forcing is a very ineffective way to break passwords, and the best way to get one is by social engineer and exploit the "human" behind every system
However, using as i said Rainbow tables you can basicly get almost every password which isn't strong with a matter of minutes. There are a Linux distro (Live CD) which is tuned at getting Windows XP-passwords and usernames (local stored only). I wont give the name here, as it might encourage people using it to receive username and passwords which they aren't supposed to have.
Rainbow tables is basicly a combination of brute force and having a large word list.
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torswin
Silver Snake Enterprise
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Posted - 2008.04.16 15:47:00 -
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Yes but why should one have to give up using their system of making passwords just because a system, which SHOULD ENCOURAGE SECURITY, doesn't support that?
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torswin
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Posted - 2008.04.16 16:05:00 -
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Edited by: torswin on 16/04/2008 16:04:51
I know that, but I must honestly say I am shocked how little people care about this.
However I must admit that most people I know of uses passwords like <theirhowntown><2 random nr> or <nameofcoolbandin1337-speak> so after a bit of tought it's not really that shocking anyway 
But is there any reasons to not support strong passwords?
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torswin
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Posted - 2008.04.16 16:11:00 -
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I suppose so. I haven't used databases so I must admit I'm totally blank on how they work.
Still I think it is pretty bad to not have the support nowadays. I am just very glad CCP haven't made this page IE-only
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torswin
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Posted - 2008.04.16 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon
What change? I already use passwords like that, symbols, characters numbers. Just don know what the ñ is.
Wiki-link
I've been trying different passwords and once I dont use any non-text characters it work.
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