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Xaen Caldari Caritas.	Posted - 2008.04.16 16:12:00 - [1] Manually converting au to km is a pretty crappy and labor intensive way to use the system scanner. EVE measures interplanetary distances in AU, why doesn't the system scanner? Also, is there a reason for the range limitation other than 1111111111111111111111111111111 in binary equating to 2147483647 in decimal? (That was rhetorical) Is there some reason you guys can't use a float so we can scan the whole system? The existing probe mechanics still prevent people from being precisely pinpointed across a 200au system, so I don't see the need for the limitation on the directional scanner other than developer convenience. - Support fixing the UI\|Suggest Jita fixes\|Compact logs
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.04.16 16:16:00 - [2] I don't use the system scanner much, but if I remember correctly exploration probes automatically go from AU to KM once you drop below 0.1AU or so - perhaps the system scanner should do the same or even have both measurements in different columns? Agreed though, it's not terribly helpful to know that an object is 1984375726 KM's away... ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8)
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.04.16 16:18:00 - [3] Simplest way would be to add a checkbox to the directional scanner that changes the used scale from km to AU when checked. There's enough room and the conversion can be done client side while the server keeps the km. -------- Ideas for: Mining Clouds
Garat Mant Minmatar Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2008.04.16 16:20:00 - [4] I support this change. Could we also have the directional scanner show on the solarsystem f10 map view? It would be helpful to see the "searchlight" from your scanner sweeping the system... -- Co-CEO, Moons Of Pluto industrial corporation. Recruiting mature players!
Alski Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.16 16:24:00 - [5] Originally by: Garat Mant I support this change. Could we also have the directional scanner show on the solarsystem f10 map view? It would be helpful to see the "searchlight" from your scanner sweeping the system... Better yet, can we have the searchlight display on the solar system map, and have an option for making the transition between ship view and system map instant? - (combat) Patch belonging to CCP hits your drones, wrecking their liberty and freedom.
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2008.04.16 16:24:00 - [6] Edited by: Wet Ferret on 16/04/2008 16:24:23 deleted Misread But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand	Posted - 2008.04.16 16:26:00 - [7] Originally by: Alski Originally by: Garat Mant I support this change. Could we also have the directional scanner show on the solarsystem f10 map view? It would be helpful to see the "searchlight" from your scanner sweeping the system... Better yet, can we have the searchlight display on the solar system map, and have an option for making the transition between ship view and system map instant? That would rock. ---------------- Tarminic - 34 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8)
Fifth Horseman	Posted - 2008.04.16 16:28:00 - [8] Au would be a nice change, though ironically for the first time last night I was using the scanner down to a resolution of about 20km. So I would like a toggle option, or anynumber entered greater than 14 is automatically km, otherwise, au. And I think they ditched the searchlight because the scanner went into Three Dimensions. With that in mind, instead of a searchlight on the minimap, can we have a disc projected onto the celestial sphere based on the current Angle Cone we're set to? --- Boring & Banal. Just how CCP like it.
Fifth Horseman	Posted - 2008.04.16 16:30:00 - [9] Originally by: Alski Better yet, can we have the searchlight display on the solar system map, and have an option for making the transition between ship view and system map instant? There is a transition speed option. F10- Starmap Tab. Animation Sub-tab. Select "Instant" --- Boring & Banal. Just how CCP like it.
Laura Steel The Chaotic Order Fallout Project	Posted - 2008.04.16 16:34:00 - [10] Originally by: Fifth Horseman Originally by: Alski Better yet, can we have the searchlight display on the solar system map, and have an option for making the transition between ship view and system map instant? There is a transition speed option. F10- Starmap Tab. Animation Sub-tab. Select "Instant" Correct. Also with that setting you can hold Alt Gr and rotate the mouse wheel to go straight to the system map(from my experience F10 goes straight to the star map). ---- Nothing is as it appears; nor is it anything else.

Hoshi Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2008.04.16 16:39:00 - [11] The range limit is the is the max number a normal unsigned Int can have. As for inputing it in AU as long as there's an option to input in km as well. Sometimes you only want 500-2000km. Try writing that in AU... ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations
DrAtomic Atomic Heroes Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.16 16:40:00 - [12] I prefer a mix of 1au, 5au, 10au, max buttons and a custom option. There are situations where i want to scan in km; for instance during exploration where i want to know if someone is allready in a site or not or when scanning out a gate before jumping on it from a close range bookmark. - - - Originally by: CCP Wrangler If you can understand our goal, disagree with our solution and offer a solution that is equal or better your opinion has a better chance of being heard...

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2008.04.16 16:42:00 - [13] Easy solution, either add radiobuttons with KM/AU/M values - or allow us to type 10au, 50km 5000m or whatever. Secure 3rd party service ■ Do you Veldspar?

Tsanse Kinske WeMeanYouKnowHarm	Posted - 2008.04.16 17:05:00 - [14] Edited by: Tsanse Kinske on 16/04/2008 17:05:28 Originally by: Chribba add radiobuttons with KM/AU/M values This please. A few other things I'd like: - A range slider bar - Option for changing the size of the 5au range sphere - Filter settings that can be saved and used separately from the overview * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
Frug Repo Industries R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.04.16 17:08:00 - [15] It really makes no sense for it to be a random number of km, that doesn't even fit into the size of the input box they provided. Either make it in AU, or make it a slider, or ditch it. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Xaen Caldari Caritas.	Posted - 2008.04.16 17:30:00 - [16] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: Alski Originally by: Garat Mant I support this change. Could we also have the directional scanner show on the solarsystem f10 map view? It would be helpful to see the "searchlight" from your scanner sweeping the system... Better yet, can we have the searchlight display on the solar system map, and have an option for making the transition between ship view and system map instant? That would rock. Seconded. Guessing whether a celestial body is in my scan cone or not is not very accurate.
clone 1 Laughing Leprechauns Corporation	Posted - 2008.04.16 17:35:00 - [17] Wow
Bimjo Caldari SKULLDOGS	Posted - 2008.04.16 17:35:00 - [18] Originally by: Hoshi The range limit is the is the max number a normal unsigned Int can have. 0 to 65536 is an unsigned Integer number(if Int is 2 bytes) -2147483648 to 2147483647 is a signed Long number,if long is 4 bytes. pedantic lesson over
Pur3Bl00D Minmatar Volition Cult The Volition Cult	Posted - 2008.04.16 17:35:00 - [19] +1 both to the AU and the "cone" thingy, and while you are at it why dont you fix the solar system map too. Something in the lines of the homeworld's map would be nice.
Bimjo Caldari SKULLDOGS	Posted - 2008.04.16 17:36:00 - [20] oh and /Signed

Xaen Caldari Caritas.	Posted - 2008.04.16 17:37:00 - [21] Originally by: Fifth Horseman Originally by: Alski Better yet, can we have the searchlight display on the solar system map, and have an option for making the transition between ship view and system map instant? There is a transition speed option. F10- Starmap Tab. Animation Sub-tab. Select "Instant" "Instant" isn't. - Support fixing the UI\|Suggest Jita fixes\|Compact logs
Xaen Caldari Caritas.	Posted - 2008.04.16 17:42:00 - [22] Originally by: Frug It really makes no sense for it to be a random number of km, that doesn't even fit into the size of the input box they provided. Either make it in AU, or make it a slider, or ditch it. It's not random. It's the largest integer that can be represented within the confines of 32 bits in binary. Whatever the solution, what we currently have is consistent with the rest of the UI. It's crap. Here's the idea I like: Radio button to select km/au Text field to enter km/au and a radio button that selects 5/10/20/40au (the scan probe sizes). Selecting this button "greys out" the text field. Clicking on the text field "greys out" the au selector radio buttons. - Support fixing the UI\|Suggest Jita fixes\|Compact logs
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2008.04.16 18:14:00 - [23] Sheesh, some of you people want to have your cake and eat it. An option to use an AU measurement system would be just fine please.
Alski Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:11:00 - [24] Originally by: Xaen Originally by: Fifth Horseman Originally by: Alski Better yet, can we have the searchlight display on the solar system map, and have an option for making the transition between ship view and system map instant? There is a transition speed option. F10- Starmap Tab. Animation Sub-tab. Select "Instant" "Instant" isn't. I was gonna QFT this, but i just checked ingame and i think it is "more instant" than it once was considering how usefull it would be to be able to allign your scanner from that map, i'd call what delay there is acceptable.
Xaen Caldari Caritas.	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:18:00 - [25] Originally by: Alski Originally by: Xaen Originally by: Fifth Horseman Originally by: Alski Better yet, can we have the searchlight display on the solar system map, and have an option for making the transition between ship view and system map instant? There is a transition speed option. F10- Starmap Tab. Animation Sub-tab. Select "Instant" "Instant" isn't. I was gonna QFT this, but i just checked ingame and i think it is "more instant" than it once was considering how usefull it would be to be able to allign your scanner from that map, i'd call what delay there is acceptable. "More instant" isn't. - Support fixing the UI\|Suggest Jita fixes\|Compact logs
Allwix	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:21:00 - [26] range slider with both displayed
Alski Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:22:00 - [27] Originally by: Xaen "More instant" isn't. - (combat) Patch belonging to CCP hits your drones, wrecking their liberty and freedom.
Xaen Caldari Caritas.	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:25:00 - [28] Originally by: Allwix range slider with both displayed No. Not unless accompanied by a text field/radio buttons. Sliders with over two billion possible positions are unworkable. - Support fixing the UI\|Suggest Jita fixes\|Compact logs
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:32:00 - [29] Originally by: Chribba Easy solution, either add radiobuttons with KM/AU/M values - or allow us to type 10au, 50km 5000m or whatever. Better yet (or in addition to that), let us save our own preset values. :) warp drive active \| nature vraie
HostageTaker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.04.16 19:35:00 - [30] wow, just wow! Who here actually remembers when scanning down ships in safes was an art? (Before scan probes) CCP have already dumbed down the scanning/probing enough where any clueless Joe can launch a probe and push a button and yet there are still some people that find this hard... unreal Please unplug your keyboard before you hurt yourself on the internetS. >>> EvE-Online Wallpapers <<<



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