I bet more people would see this if the "Dev Blogs" button up there didn't give a 404 error

Got a broken link in the devblog proper at the end,.

Said it before and say it again. I DO NOT WANT AN AUTORUN MENU WHEN I CLICK THE SHORTCUT TO LAUNCH THE GAME!

Im guessing the part where it says multiple connections to maximise bandwidth for patching / downloading is referring to a .torrent style set-up? Or am I wrong?

I hope you still will provide static downloads (thinking multiple installs again...)
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Can you answer the Mac specific questions asked before instead of just skipping over them like they where not there?

Please, sugarcakcandy on top?

Use a one time sign in through the launcher, and have the server return a unique access token to the launcher. This token would theoretically only work from that computer, and would be completely unrelated from the password, actually increasing account security. You would be able to revoke tokens from the account management site, and disable it entirely from there as well.

Would that work or anything I'm overlooking?


edit: removed some unrelated content

What I would like about the launcher is that it should not use so much resources as the current Main screen window.

What I dislike is that the main window opens as normal but then a pop-up tells me that there is an update so It has to close and load back up after the install/update. That's dumb. Better get the launcher check for updates and then after it's ok, press the play button to load the resource-eating window to come on.

What I dislike is that the main window opens as normal but then a pop-up tells me that there is an update so It has to close and load back up after the install/update. That's dumb. Better get the launcher check for updates and then after it's ok, press the play button to load the resource-eating window to come on.

From post #4 in this thread:

I have had the need to go on to Sisi lately, and the launcher is the TQ Beta (because it shows me the TQ stats) and launches me into Sisi. Is it meant to do this?

For those asking about multiple clients using junction points, I'm following the article on the wiki, and I'll let you know exactly how junctions fare (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Multiple_clients#Method_1_-_Junctions)

what happens for us multi client users that like to have seprate settings for each client?.
personally i need the client to remember what monitor its allocated to, as well as which account its allocated to also(im old and forget what toon is on what account). the first 6 clients are for active accounts, the last client is for my other 6 currently inactive accounts.

so 2 simple questions that id like you to answer please,

will i need to run 7 launchers to patch my 7 installs?

will it download the data 7 times, or will there be an option (like currently) not to remove the data until all clients are patched?

are you avoiding answering these due to the fact, that the answers are both yes

My main concern however is with the idea of peer-to-peer sharing of the client. Please make sure that this is
something that is completely transparent and is totally opt-out-able. And please, please please never EVER use something
like Pando Media Booster. People will quit your game in droves. Especially Eve pilots, which I would gather are a bit more
technically savy then your average MMO user.

Having the ability to detect if a patch exists and ask for confirmation before auto-downloading and applying would
be nice.

Sometimes you just want to login quick and throw another skill in the queue before leaving for work and not have to sit
through a giant download.

Can we have a clock on the launcher that displays the current Eve time and date? It would be really helpful for finding out if those "Friday 02:00" ops are on real life Friday or game-time Saturday.

same feedback as the last time:
to make the launcher really useful: let us use it to log in - then lauch the player right into the game!

will this patch all 7 of my installs at once?
will i need to use 7 launchers to patch or use my 7 clients/installs?
will i have to use this to patch or can i use the current patcher?

I would like to see some answers to the questions regarding multiboxing as well, since this is what most eve players do.

Any chance this will happen? Or is it CCPs plan to surprise us with what ever will happen to our multiboxing installations?

If you do something about this, you will make everyone, except perhaps the manufacturers of hard disks, happy.
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Go. Make it so.

I am using a proxy connection sometimes, to get the launcher to work I would need info which ports the launcher will need to connect and download updates.

Right now when a new client version comes out (that is one with a new 1.x.x version number) the procedure is to delete all the clones, run the main client, let it update, then use "Eve clonemaker" to make the clones. The clones are much smaller than a full install, and much faster to make. When a small patch comes out the main client is updated when you run it, and each clone updates when you run it.


So: Will "Eve clonemaker" still work? Will it be a viable way to get multiple clients?
Will the launcher work properly when cloned?
Will the clones update properly?
Will it be obvious to us users when we got to delete and re-create the clones for a major update, now that updating is sort of hidden in the launcher?

Edit: Right now if I run "Eve clonemaker" on my sisi install I get "cp: /Applications/EVE Onlinesisi.app//Contents/MacOS/cider: No such file or directory"

Thanks for the feedback.

I meant that more along the lines of "OK, huge download required, just quit now instead of download, I'll do it later" rather than "skip download and try to connect with old client version now".

so have you come up with a way to either make this installer work with muliti installs or a way for us to carry on using the current patcher as is?

Did someone slip up and post the copy of launcher code targeting TRANQUILITY to the test server?

So.. err.. How many times do i have to press "play" to actually play the game.. ??

The following hasn't been addressed by the blogs yet, and I would be glad if CCP Dev could clarify the following points. Thank you.

My concern about the launcher is ability to run it when Windows UAC (User Account Control) are turned on to full protection mode. We all know that Eve Online game files are located in %program files (x86)%\CCP which is a protected location, and only accounts with admin token are allowed admin rights.

Therefore, for launcher to be able to patch game files, launcher would need to be elevated with admin consent and token. After the patching is done, and launcher patches the game, evefile.exe (the game itself) will start and inherit all properties of it's parent process including admin token.

This means that eve online client will be elevated and have full admin rights to the system. This is clearly not desired effect, as such security rights shouldn't be necessary to play the game.

This is of course, is the most likely scenario how the launcher normally work if developed without security in mind. Does CCP addressed this issue in any way? Such as, does evefile.exe disallow admin token to be attributed to it, or launcher insures that evefile.exe does not start with full admin rights.

Thank you for your time.


TL;DR; How does the new launcher accommodate some of us, who are conscience about windows security... or are we ignored?

I wish it'd be possible to exit to the character selection screen instead of just closing the game...

Or at least make the launcher remember all passwords used this session (until the launcher is closed) so I would not have to enter tnem every time I want to get another character into the game.

Also I hope it will make the loading faster. Even with SSD the game starts too slow...

Today when trying the new launcher I see a newly coloured screen (Crucible colours instead of blue), but when I click "Play" I get the Crucible logo, and then nothing, it just exits. This last worked when the launcher was first announced on this Dev Blog.

OS X 10.7.3 x86_64
MacBookPro6,2
nVidia GeForce GT 330M 256M

as a junctions user, i think the real question here was "what happen with your new systems for "client update" type patchs ? those optional, and that currently are installed on ALL virtual folders, not on the real one.
in case you don't know, when a "client update" patch have to be installed we have to install it on the client we ran, but after we'll be asked to download and install it also on the other clients when we launch them.

I have the worst luck with game launchers and a laundry list of MMOs I can't touch because of them so I hope we can still maually patch and load the game, in fact, I can't currently patch with the installer you guys have now and I need to apply the direct download patch.

Multiboxing should be TOP PRIORITY from that point of view and nothing *we are looking into for the future*.

Will this be included in the upcoming rollout of this feature? Will it work similar to torrents?

what do you think about downloading the patch to a (user) specified location and having the launcher search this location before downloading ?

dont put stuff in %localappdata% %temp% %cache% and friends

in the short run there should be a "keep downloaded data" checkbox after installing a patch

1) This Launcher, will it be associated with one client or will it be a standalone application that just points to one of my many Eve directories? Or will I end up with as many Launchers and i have eve clients?

2) If I want to patch a second install, after the first one has been patched, how do I do that with the Launcher?

3) If something goes wrong, can I still copy/paste an entire EVE folder and simply run that client with new settings?

4) For Launcher 2.0, could you please work on a supported multibox solution? It would be great if I could specify my client preferences (e.g. [windowed 1024x768, all graphics to low] or [full screen 2560x1600, full detail]) and select the account I want launched. If the Launcher stays open, great, rinse, repeat...

Oh, and one more thing: Please do not hide behind your little "unsupported" finger. I have received more "the power of two" ads from CCP than I have fingers (and toes). If you really don't want me to quintuple-box, just let me know and I'll change some of my subscriptions....

I haven't read more than a few pages of the thread so sorry if this has been beaten to death, but the launcher looks like a fantastic opportunity to add support for multiboxing-- profiles for different monitors with different resolutions tied either to account, selectable on startup, or best of all selectable on the fly by hotkey or easily accessible menu (Say I'm running a mission on my bear, then a fleet forms up and hey look, troupe of squids need killin', better swap my fw/evil pirate over to the spotlight!). The ability to switch between these configurations freely without having to use an ultramon key command and a resolution change in the settings menu would be amazing.