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Virgo I'Platonicus
Muchacho's
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Posted - 2008.04.17 22:04:00 -
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Hello all!
After 2 years of inactivity and on passive lookout for changes in EVE, I have decided to update my outdated Jamming probabilities guide
(LINK),
create something better, something new, something with more eye candy while still sometimes requiring a smoke of greycellsteam.
So I am proud to present to you the new guide called
Jamming Probabilites v2
- Complete guide to ECM -
It includes information that most new players will find interesting (explanation of skills, modules, ships, working of ECM) , meanwhile it offers old players info that even they have probably not heard before (jamming statistics breakdown, understanding of prolonged EWAR combat).
Hope you have fun reading it, try not finding too many mistakes in it (grammatical or mathematical) and see you in EVE.
Best regards,
Virgo
<3 |
Opertone
Caldari
Simtech Productions
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Posted - 2008.04.17 23:43:00 -
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brilliant
and the number one ECM ship for skirmishes is the kitsune!
and i realized that main damage dealers should disregard DPS drones and use hi velocity small ECM drones
and to tell the truth it is easier to kill a scorpion than a griffin... they have the same jamming potential, how ever a properly jammed scorpion will have difficulty re-locking the griffin... and the griffin will have more time for jamming effectively
if the BS ships decide to lock the griffins they will be wasting their time... killing a fly with a bazooka doesn't look smart and gives the advantage to the other team
how ever killing scorpions looks logical - you reduce both jamming and DPS, and deal some serious hurt to the fleet and to the kill board and one's pocket
but what about counter jamming and remote sensor strengthening modules?
how do EW sensor linking modules work in general? we tested this on sisi and an ammar BS boosted up to 140 sensor strength could still be jammed, although very infrequently
i very much look forward to ECCM modules description - as this sphere remains uncovered yet and very much forgotten
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.04.18 00:20:00 -
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Edited by: Lance Fighter on 18/04/2008 00:20:10
wow, thats a rather impressive compilation of time/effort...
One thing I suggest: Find a good spell check 
It really does help to know that 3x light drones gives me an insanely high chance to jam the other guy though :)
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Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.18 01:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Opertone
brilliant
and the number one ECM ship for skirmishes is the kitsune!
and i realized that main damage dealers should disregard DPS drones and use hi velocity small ECM drones
and to tell the truth it is easier to kill a scorpion than a griffin... they have the same jamming potential, how ever a properly jammed scorpion will have difficulty re-locking the griffin... and the griffin will have more time for jamming effectively
if the BS ships decide to lock the griffins they will be wasting their time... killing a fly with a bazooka doesn't look smart and gives the advantage to the other team
how ever killing scorpions looks logical - you reduce both jamming and DPS, and deal some serious hurt to the fleet and to the kill board and one's pocket
but what about counter jamming and remote sensor strengthening modules?
how do EW sensor linking modules work in general? we tested this on sisi and an ammar BS boosted up to 140 sensor strength could still be jammed, although very infrequently
i very much look forward to ECCM modules description - as this sphere remains uncovered yet and very much forgotten
I can't decide if you're truly an imbecile or you are trolling. Maybe both.
At any rate, it's obvious that you didn't actually read the pdf.
-Liang |
Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.18 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Virgo I'Platonicus
It includes information that most new players will find interesting (explanation of skills, modules, ships, working of ECM) , meanwhile it offers old players info that even they have probably not heard before (jamming statistics breakdown, understanding of prolonged EWAR combat).
It's got some interesting information, but the background pictures on the pdf really detracted from the overall effort.
The graphs are also rather confusing, and I can see many people not "getting" it because the explanations could use a tiny bit of work (and explanations of what each graph actually implies. See the above comment about light ECM drones being the best drones)
Good information though.
-Liang |
Beretta Reign
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.18 02:48:00 -
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Edited by: Beretta Reign on 18/04/2008 02:47:56
I found this informative, if a bit hard to follow. question to anyone: if you want to be an EWAR pilot, are caldari ships your only real choice? were damps nerfed that badly?
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.04.18 02:49:00 -
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Originally by: Beretta Reign
Edited by: Beretta Reign on 18/04/2008 02:47:56
I found this informative, if a bit hard to follow. question to anyone: if you want to be an EWAR pilot, are caldari ships your only real choice? were damps nerfed that badly?
yes
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Virgo I'Platonicus
Muchacho's
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Posted - 2008.04.18 08:31:00 -
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Completely forgot about ECCM :S will put it in in the next version :)
V.
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Mijaca
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Posted - 2008.04.18 18:49:00 -
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It's very sad to see that yet again ECCM is ignored.
Well better then nothing i guess :)
cya on drinks ;)
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Waxau
The Fated
Odyssey.
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Posted - 2008.04.18 19:24:00 -
[10]
Nice one mate - me points to Dev sticky plz |
Kiroven Kunnin
Minmatar
Black Knight Squadron
United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.18 22:41:00 -
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Edited by: Kiroven Kunnin on 18/04/2008 22:41:58
Statistics, 
Really nice guide, hope most of our new eden's ECM fans would appreciate it.
Kiroven
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Kiroven Kunnin
Actually Nerfing the speed is an inside joke at CCP, they just want people to post less about "overpowering" nano-ships. |
Virgo I'Platonicus
Muchacho's
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Posted - 2008.04.18 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Mijaca
It's very sad to see that yet again ECCM is ignored.
Well better then nothing i guess :)
cya on drinks ;)
:D u're buying :)
<3 |
trinta
Caldari
Montoya Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.19 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: trinta on 19/04/2008 21:55:43
Good job Virgo!!!
STICKY Please
T.
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Badboy K
FinFleet
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.20 08:44:00 -
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Nice stuff Virgo, respect 
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DeathsDance
Muchacho's
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Posted - 2008.04.22 16:25:00 -
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REALLY nice guide.
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Kovach Lyudozherc
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Posted - 2008.04.22 16:32:00 -
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Nice guide mate! Respect for effort.
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Wygg
Minmatar
Strife Mercenaries Inc.
Wrath.
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Posted - 2008.04.24 03:45:00 -
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Are there a few typos? Sure. Easily fixed.
An excellent reference, though. And very nicely laid out.
Bonus points for the graphic design.
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Kano Sekor
Amarr
The Marathon Unit
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Posted - 2008.04.24 07:48:00 -
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Amazing guide /me goes quickly to market and buys medium ecm drones.
If i whould be to offer any constructive criticism it whould be that you could take up ways to counter ecm i.e. the effect of fitting ECCM and how it affects the fail percentage of a ECM module.
Altough i also have matlab fitted on my computers hi slot i have failed to use it for any real use (i.e. eve online) and only had it for labs and projects. |
Hugh Ruka
Caldari
Exploratio et Industria Morispatia
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Posted - 2008.04.24 08:38:00 -
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Great guide, very enjoyable reading. THANKS |
Exquina
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Posted - 2008.04.28 18:25:00 -
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Heya Virgo :*
Nice guide, i like it a lot.
Personaly I'm interested in Jamming Drones more than the ECM modules on the ship,
I've ran some numbers and I can't figure out chances that 5 med. drones would get in jamming certain ship size(diff sensor strengths).
anyway, chat less on forums and come online more often, we miss you on our home channel ^^
GL&HF
ex out.
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IHearULiek Mudkipz
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Posted - 2008.06.03 20:42:00 -
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bumping for awesome
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Jurgen Cartis
Interstellar Corporation of Exploration
Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.06.04 02:35:00 -
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Nice guide.
Typo report: on page 24, you switched up the column headings for the second pilot.
Also, you seem to have your forum jammers on me, it took me 5 logins to post this.
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FIRST!! -Yipsilanti
Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth |
Virgo I'Platonicus
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.06.07 11:07:00 -
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Hi people and thanks for all the great feedback.
I'll release v.2.1 soon that will include all your comments/ideas and get some grammatical loving :)
Forgot to deactivate forum jammers :)
/me does so now.
V.
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BiggestT
Fun Inc
Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.06.07 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Opertone
brilliant
and the number one ECM ship for skirmishes is the kitsune!
and i realized that main damage dealers should disregard DPS drones and use hi velocity small ECM drones
and to tell the truth it is easier to kill a scorpion than a griffin... they have the same jamming potential, how ever a properly jammed scorpion will have difficulty re-locking the griffin... and the griffin will have more time for jamming effectively
if the BS ships decide to lock the griffins they will be wasting their time... killing a fly with a bazooka doesn't look smart and gives the advantage to the other team
how ever killing scorpions looks logical - you reduce both jamming and DPS, and deal some serious hurt to the fleet and to the kill board and one's pocket
but what about counter jamming and remote sensor strengthening modules?
how do EW sensor linking modules work in general? we tested this on sisi and an ammar BS boosted up to 140 sensor strength could still be jammed, although very infrequently
i very much look forward to ECCM modules description - as this sphere remains uncovered yet and very much forgotten
Yeah, the scorp is easier to kill than a griffin..hmm
Smartbombs?
webs?
Ceptors?
Stangely i think the above would kill a griffin faster (just maybe)
Oh and id like ot see 4 heavy nuets, a heavy nos and a smartbomb fit on a griffin
Boost Field commands! they need love :( |
Cailais
VITOC
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Posted - 2008.06.07 11:29:00 -
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"Impressive, most impressive"
C.
VITOC - Amarr Corp for Faction Warfare! |
BiggestT
Fun Inc
Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.06.07 11:44:00 -
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oh and the answer at the end is 4 (4 scorpions) wheres my prize??
Boost Field commands! they need love :( |
Fabulous Shinigamy
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Posted - 2008.06.07 13:56:00 -
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Cool guide, congratulations.
You might wanna, however, add ECCM to it.
Also your pictures aren't really good, and very jagged. You can take off pics from my website ( http://glowfalls.com/eve_ships/ ) if you want and add, I won't mind.
Best regards
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Virgo I'Platonicus
Selectus Pravus Lupus
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Posted - 2008.06.15 23:23:00 -
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Thanks mate, I most certainly will.
Regards,
V.
<3 |
Blaak Ops
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Posted - 2008.06.15 23:49:00 -
[29]
This is very useful, thanks..well done.
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Opertone
SIEGE.
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Posted - 2008.06.16 04:54:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Opertone
brilliant
and the number one ECM ship for skirmishes is the kitsune!
and i realized that main damage dealers should disregard DPS drones and use hi velocity small ECM drones
and to tell the truth it is easier to kill a scorpion than a griffin... they have the same jamming potential, how ever a properly jammed scorpion will have difficulty re-locking the griffin... and the griffin will have more time for jamming effectively
if the BS ships decide to lock the griffins they will be wasting their time... killing a fly with a bazooka doesn't look smart and gives the advantage to the other team
how ever killing scorpions looks logical - you reduce both jamming and DPS, and deal some serious hurt to the fleet and to the kill board and one's pocket
but what about counter jamming and remote sensor strengthening modules?
how do EW sensor linking modules work in general? we tested this on sisi and an ammar BS boosted up to 140 sensor strength could still be jammed, although very infrequently
i very much look forward to ECCM modules description - as this sphere remains uncovered yet and very much forgotten
I can't decide if you're truly an imbecile or you are trolling. Maybe both.
At any rate, it's obvious that you didn't actually read the pdf.
-Liang
dear Liang, stop picking on me, it is not very nice of you
if you do not agree with me, try to imitate the situation
you do not see the disadvantage of scorpion as of primary target with 400 m resolution
also, in ECM fight, the recon class ship will do everything to jamm the bigger battleship sized craft, such as scorpion.
in a kitsune, i can jamm the scorpion, but he can not jamm me because i lock faster
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