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MongWen Farmer Killers United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2008.04.18 12:48:00 - [1] The CSM shod not have any real power, to be honest I donÆt want them to have any power to change things, the only thing I want them to have is the voice that CCP hears and take under advisement, and if CCP likes what the CSM is putting forth then itÆs a good thing, and if they donÆt like it, they shod/will give a reason why they donÆt like it. As for the link between the community the CSM are players, they shod voice the concerns off the players, and if the CSM panel donÆt like the issue/idea/solution they can also say no to bringing it to CCP with a reason why they donÆt want to raise it to the CCP panel. And I think people commonly think that the CSM is a PR stunt, and it may well be that, but that remains to be seen. And the fact is that we have 64 candidates (at the moment, since some might withdraw). And it might have something to do with to little information that is released to the public, and the public not reading it. And only the future can tell if the CSM will work or not.
MongWen Farmer Killers United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2008.04.18 17:25:00 - [2] Originally by: Slade Trillgon I see CSM running like a debate committee of sorts. Have the pros and cons of each topic covered by CSM so as to limit the potential for biases coming to far to the forefront. I *suggest* that all formal meetings between CCP and the CSM board be provided to the community via video preferably, or by recording. Coverage done through EVE TV would be ideal. I know this could be a hot topic, but I believe that this would help ensure that things are covered in an unbiased fashion. I would help insure each topic is handled with CSM providing equal and unbiased discussion hitting the various viewpoints. I have not heard this idea brought up, but I thought that it could be a good thing to discuss. Slade I am all for that idea, tho that depends on the terms of the NDA that the CSM members has to sign (why we have to sign it may have to do with info regarding stuff that is not be made public or something like that.). ------------------------- Vote MongWen For The CMS. [Campaign Site]
MongWen Farmer Killers United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2008.04.18 19:58:00 - [3] Originally by: Slade Trillgon I can see how a NDA could cause a problem with presenting the formal meetings to the EVE public. But the meeting could be televised/broadcasted on a dely to allow for censoring or they could be presented after a time for editing. I do pose this question though. If the CSM is a community representitive and there is information that they are privy to then are we not also privy to that info since we are the community? Any reason that CCP could give to counter a CSM argument or idea is something that the community should be allowed to hear. Or will the CSM committee become a secret keeping buffer between CCP and the EVE communite? Slade It might have something to do with ideas from CCP that they might want to keep to them self for the time being, and they may need to ask the CSM what we think about it. That may have something to do with the NDA, or something that CCP is planning to do and tells the CSM about it so that they can prep for it when it happens. with not knowing on what terms the NDA falls under it is hard to say, but I suspect that a live feed can be hard to do, seeing that no one can know how long the discussions or talks about it can last it is hard to say. ------------------------- Vote MongWen For The CMS. [Campaign Site]
MongWen Farmer Killers United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2008.04.18 20:52:00 - [4] Originally by: Slade Trillgon The "live" part of my initial post was thrown in last second. I never really thought that it would be feasible, but thought it went with the flow so I put it in. The presence of the NDA pretty much ices the live idea. But having a recording (video or voice), in whatever edited fashion CCP chooses, is somewhat necessary. Otherwise we then are putting faith in the CSM's to accurately, unbiased, and in a timely fashion report all this info on their own. Slade Yeah, but like i did say i am for it. but i can not say if CCP will allow it in what ever form or at all. but time will tell. My hope is that the CSM can be as open as possible without brakeing the NDA. ------------------------- Vote MongWen For The CMS. [Campaign Site]

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