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Togg Bott Minmatar	Posted - 2008.04.19 21:13:00 - [31] good survey. made me re-evaluate my actions/perspectives
Val Vympel Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.04.20 00:49:00 - [32] Completed. Good survey,I will be interested in seeing the final results.
Franga NQX Innovations	Posted - 2008.04.20 00:57:00 - [33] Originally by: Togg Bott good survey. made me re-evaluate my actions/perspectives Okay. Originally by: Rachel Vend ... with 100% reliability in most cases ...
SephiriotH REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.20 11:47:00 - [34] dead link
Miniver Cheevy Gallente Bombshell Cartel	Posted - 2008.04.21 02:33:00 - [35] Originally by: SephiriotH dead link You broke it! It was working earlier, but I just caught them in the act myself. There's no reason for it to be down (no service outage warnings from QuestionPro) so consider them On Notice! Just as soon as I can connect to complain... (FYI the survey isn't down yet, so if you are having trouble getting through please try back a little later)
Lord Lycos Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.04.21 04:08:00 - [36] sticky without a topic, EPIC!
Miniver Cheevy Gallente Bombshell Cartel	Posted - 2008.04.21 04:15:00 - [37] Originally by: Lord Lycos sticky without a topic, EPIC! Hah hah, oops!
Jin Gle Gallente The Topal Corporation	Posted - 2008.04.21 09:20:00 - [38] I filled it in for ye, hope it helps. just as a suggestion: the first two pages (where you have to "rate" statements) should have some more negative statements imo. Space Lion
Lord Dynastron Mystical Knights Legionnaire Services Ltd.	Posted - 2008.04.21 17:28:00 - [39] That was a little more effort then I had envisioned with no reward (I.E. Survey results displayed as payment for wading thru the survey). Also if you are trying to prove or disprove the whole "More young leaders in MMORPG's" then you need to be sure to measure the ratios as well. In other words... if you have 1000 people, and only 3 of them are over the age of 30,, and all 3 of those are in leadership positions,,, then even if you have 300 other leaders all under 30,,, you do NOT have more young leaders...percentage wise.... which is I think what you are getting at? Being a leader in Eve takes far more then just combat skills. You need economic, personnel, and diplomatic skills as well. These skills are learned over time in the real world and applied to the game. Here is the rub.... you can learn these skills in game too!! Seriously. But, it would take just as much time as in the real world.
Cambron Silverwing Caldari Bombshell Cartel Terror Syndicate	Posted - 2008.04.21 23:06:00 - [40] It took me long enough to take the survey. Being in the corp leadership I should add my three cents and see how it comes out. Cambron
J Valkor Invicta.	Posted - 2008.04.22 00:48:00 - [41] EvE is actually where I escape from having a leadership position.
Lisento Slaven Amarr The Drekla Consortium	Posted - 2008.04.22 04:02:00 - [42] Originally by: Lord Dynastron That was a little more effort then I had envisioned with no reward (I.E. Survey results displayed as payment for wading thru the survey). Also if you are trying to prove or disprove the whole "More young leaders in MMORPG's" then you need to be sure to measure the ratios as well. In other words... if you have 1000 people, and only 3 of them are over the age of 30,, and all 3 of those are in leadership positions,,, then even if you have 300 other leaders all under 30,,, you do NOT have more young leaders...percentage wise.... which is I think what you are getting at? Being a leader in Eve takes far more then just combat skills. You need economic, personnel, and diplomatic skills as well. These skills are learned over time in the real world and applied to the game. Here is the rub.... you can learn these skills in game too!! Seriously. But, it would take just as much time as in the real world. I would have started saying random things just like this but you have to keep in mind that in a real research project the participants are only given enough information to reach their tasks to either support or not support the hypothesis placed forward regarding the topic. I am looking forward to seeing the results, in detail, when the author submits them for peer review. I have considered doing a number of surveys through EVE and other MMO's but I never really had a topic that I cared enough about =P --- Put in space whales!
Chillshock	Posted - 2008.04.22 14:42:00 - [43] I took the survey. My answers were rather similar, as I usually work and play with teams of peers.
Montague Zooma Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.22 16:26:00 - [44] A survey in which the subjects are self-selected? Please tell me this is just for fun and not an indication of how scientific standards have fallen since I got my experimental psych degree 25 years ago.
Stuart Price Caldari Havoc Inc	Posted - 2008.04.22 17:38:00 - [45] Excellent survey, good question base. I pretty much expected how my answers would pan out and they did for the most part, despite intriguing similarities. The results should be interesting indeed. "I got soul but I'm not a soldier"
Miniver Cheevy Gallente Bombshell Cartel	Posted - 2008.04.22 21:38:00 - [46] Originally by: Montague Zooma A survey in which the subjects are self-selected? Please tell me this is just for fun and not an indication of how scientific standards have fallen since I got my experimental psych degree 25 years ago. Don't worry, I come from a program with a strong base in statistics and proper research methods, so no silly/misleading/wrong results like "Gaming CAUSES increased Leader skills in ALL people of the world! Sign up your children today!" will come from this. While it is a bit of a side project, that doesn't automatically marginalize it. Let's be honest though, all surveys have selection problems and/or biases in completion. As an example, even if I talked CCP into forcing all players to complete a survey (else be banned), at least some of the people who filled out the survey wouldn't answer it naturally/truthfully. And there would still be a few people who refused to fill it out. They would likely differ on some level from those who did. These aren't issues that have changed in the last 25 years. I just like to think folks are a bit more aware of the research pitfalls these days. Okay, some of us are -- I won't go nearly so far as to say everyone uses statistics in a proper manner!
Oyou Likeit	Posted - 2008.04.23 15:45:00 - [47] well plus your choice here isn't between doing a randomly selected/sampled survey and doing a self-selected one, its between doing a self-selected one or none at all. as cheevy points out you're not going to get a random sampling, even if you could get CCP to impose draconian measures on players. So, being an academic, i'd have to say given the choice between imperfect science and no science, i'll take imperfect science. (and i do)
Oyou Likeit	Posted - 2008.04.23 15:46:00 - [48] PS i didnt complete the survey, sorry
Athre Minmatar The HIgher Standard	Posted - 2008.04.24 03:32:00 - [49] Originally by: Akita T I do hope you'll be making the results public in the end... /agree
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core	Posted - 2008.04.24 07:33:00 - [50] cool m8 ill do ur survey
Guillome Renard Gallente Access Services	Posted - 2008.04.24 15:40:00 - [51] Miniver! You're back! Haven't seen you in years buddy. :P (Or any of the old CES crew for that matter.) fun fact for you: the company I work for IRL is called CES. :P I'll get that survey done for ya. Throw an evemail at me if you're online again. -Guillome Renard, ACCS -------------------------------------------------- Rational problem solving since 03/08! Ask me about subcontracted production and hauling!
Helganstandt Finis Lumen Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.26 10:25:00 - [52] That was an interesting survey. Certainly better than half of the horrid surveys I took in college for extra credit for my psych 101 class.
Kojee DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.04.27 19:46:00 - [53] Maybe a year or two into playing EVE, I was contacted randomly by someone ingame and asked questions about various things, ranging from acts of violence to helping people. I think this guy was Nick Yee, but I'm not sure. Anyway, a few years later, I got a mail back stating he had finished his thesis etc, gave it a look and was quiet surprised as to the quality of the whole thing. It's cool to see that this particular survey was partly inspired by his work. It's a nice insight to see how different / alike MMORPG life and real life are in terms of how people act. ┌--------------------------------+º Kojee º½--------------------------------┐
Adrianx7 Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.04.27 22:32:00 - [54] Intresting Iam in RL a company director of 2 companies BUT in eve, I get told what too do Guess eve is my way of getting out of the fire HUZZAH
Dealth Striker Caldari Striker Ltd	Posted - 2008.04.28 02:01:00 - [55] Hmmm --------------------- Communication is Key!

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