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Duncan Bannatyne Machiavellian Intuition	Posted - 2008.04.18 08:46:00 - [1] Now, usually when I go through these forums it's full of pubbie whining scum who are moaning about pirates not paying ransoms, of course this brings the bad name for every pirate out there and destroys financial opportunities. Whilst it isn't exactly thread worthy, I thought I'd post just to show that some pirates do indeed still honour ransoms, which I must admit was a slight surprise for me but it's a releived one at that. I bought myself some Giga Beams in a low-sec system (Jita was out) and simply couldn't be arsed to either a) get an alt to scout or b) go further afeild, because I'm a lazy ****. So, jump into said system stabbed/inertiad up the wazoo, bah HIC. Scrambled, guy ransoms accordingly and let's me go free. Just destroying a few myths for you filthy carebears out there which refuse to pay ransoms. Well, anyways, thank's for taking the time to read my medial tale and flame away.
Kale Kold Caldari Vicious Little Killers	Posted - 2008.04.18 10:55:00 - [2] We always honor ransoms! It's good business sense to always do so.
Euriti Gallente SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.04.18 11:03:00 - [3] SniggWaffe has a no-tolerance policy to dishonouring ransoms, we honour them, when we ransom
Darius Brinn Gallente Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness	Posted - 2008.04.18 11:24:00 - [4] I have never been ransomed, but I think I would simply reject comunication with the pirate. I'm paying no ransoms to anybody. I'd rather see my ship destroyed and have them loot the crumbles. Because, let's be honest. They blow you up: fine. You move on. But...they get your wallet, THEN blow you up...well, that has to itch you forever :P No trust.
Suitonia Gallente interimo	Posted - 2008.04.18 11:26:00 - [5] 'Don't bite the hand that feeds you' is a quote I remember reading here. And for the most part it's pretty good advise. Interimo honours ransoms, although we mostly ransom corps, not players. --- I've always wondered about those Vagabond pilots...
Cpt Branko Surge. Night's Dawn	Posted - 2008.04.18 11:30:00 - [6] Originally by: Darius Brinn I have never been ransomed, but I think I would simply reject comunication with the pirate. I'm paying no ransoms to anybody. I'd rather see my ship destroyed and have them loot the crumbles. Because, let's be honest. They blow you up: fine. You move on. But...they get your wallet, THEN blow you up...well, that has to itch you forever :P No trust. Well, durrr, you lose less ISK when you pay a ransom and be on your merry way. Which is why it's a mutually beneficent arrangement. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Tony Allizzar POINT CLICK KILL	Posted - 2008.04.18 11:32:00 - [7] I catch one of my guys not honouring a ransom.. He will have his pod taken from him right before he gets kicked
Darius Brinn Gallente Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness	Posted - 2008.04.18 11:34:00 - [8] Originally by: Cpt Branko Well, durrr, you lose less ISK when you pay a ransom and be on your merry way. Which is why it's a mutually beneficent arrangement. Of course. IF you had anything but the looter's word for it. Which is always the only thing you have. The day I accept paying a ransom would be the day the pirate can get Chribba to convo me and verify the operation http://www.geocities.com/vagrantweapons/db.jpg
TerrorBaBy Caldari Universal-Corp The Nexus Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.18 11:41:00 - [9] Edited by: TerrorBaBy on 18/04/2008 11:40:46 I always honour ransoms. _______________ Originally by: CCP Navigator Please keep to the topic at hand. Discussions of ****ography on youtube or anywhere else is not relevant.
Suitonia Gallente interimo	Posted - 2008.04.18 11:45:00 - [10] A lot of pirate-corps have rules in place to honour ransoms, not doing so means that member gets ejected from the corp. So I'd usually take an offered ransom from them if it was beneficial. Of course, you can never 100% trust someone to honour a ransom, but anything I fly in lowsec is hardly worth someone getting kicked from their corp for blowing. Reputation is almost as good as isk in-game. --- I've always wondered about those Vagabond pilots...
RuleoftheBone Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.04.18 11:54:00 - [11] Hundreds of satisfied Veto clients can't be wrong. "Pay the Man" and off you go. It's that simple. Verone's policies insure client peace of mind. Bear in mind that ransoms are not always practical to offer due to local tactical considerations . And 0.0 is ALWAYS a no-ransom zone. "Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
Inertial The Python Cartel	Posted - 2008.04.18 13:23:00 - [12] I have done a few ransoms, and never dishounered them. Altough Ransoming in a fight is a PITA. Personally I prefer to ransom pods, considering T1 ships are often insured to the brim. I get the loot, and the money for the implants .
Sirius Problem Darkness Inc. Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.18 13:31:00 - [13] Originally by: Euriti no-tolerance policy to dishonouring ransoms, we honour them, when we ransom ^^ This.
Savesti Kyrsst Minmatar White-Noise	Posted - 2008.04.18 14:26:00 - [14] We always honour ransoms, we're usually too lazy to offer them though _ White-Noise is Recruiting. Active pvp corp, carebears with teeth welcome. Bring Pie.
isdisco3 Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.04.18 14:33:00 - [15] Veto always honors ransoms. However we offer them at our own discretion, as bone said, at times it is not wise for us to spend the 30-45 seconds it would take to convo, negotiate terms, and come to an agreement. However if a ransom offer is given, it is honored.
Kahrek Laume Gallente Atropos Asylum	Posted - 2008.04.18 14:52:00 - [16] I've offered a few ransoms on ships and pods none of them even so much as replied to the offer :( oh well but it is good business to honor any and all ransoms be it for ship or pod. Kahrek Laume.
Jaedar Metron I G N O T U S	Posted - 2008.04.18 15:28:00 - [17] IGN always honor their ransoms :)
Goyda Veni Vidi Vici. XIII Legio	Posted - 2008.04.18 15:36:00 - [18] Edited by: Goyda on 18/04/2008 15:40:13 I honor ransoms, they leave them behind in their wrecks. I like to call it...'player donations', avoids the whole, open a convo...or chat in local...language barriers...going pop transcends all language barriers as well as is completely understood from both sides.
Ximena Gallente Domini Umbrus Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2008.04.18 15:50:00 - [19] Alright so you got the one pirate that does not pull a scam and blow you up anyway, Congratulations. Fact remains most are not honorable first hand experience.
Suitonia Gallente interimo	Posted - 2008.04.18 16:23:00 - [20] Originally by: Ximena Alright so you got the one pirate that does not pull a scam and blow you up anyway, Congratulations. Fact remains most are not honorable first hand experience. I'd say the pirates who don't honour ransoms are a minority rather than the majority. But thats just person experience. --- I've always wondered about those Vagabond pilots...
Acies Invictus Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.04.18 16:24:00 - [21] I've never been ransomed. But I've lost 3 Rifters and a Pod. Of course I guess they figure I'm not worth talking to. Us poor nubs _______________________________________________ Human beings didn't evolve brains in order to lie around on lakes. Killing's the first thing we learned. And a good thing we did, or we'd be dead,
Svalentine2 Minmatar Death's Legion Academy	Posted - 2008.04.18 17:02:00 - [22] Similar situation, only difference being I was one of the mates on the giving end instead of the receiving end. We locked down a faction BS in "our" system and had pounde through shields and most armor when we considered ransoming it. Someone mentioned in local a possible ransom but while we were setting to invite the chap to our private ransom channel things sort of went to pot and we just blew him up. Wierd thing is that some random neutral in local chimed in with 10 mil ransom demand that the vict....errr client paid thinking it would save his ship. Well, when the random neut said he got paid we made sure we sent the guy his money back with an apology and our customer survey form. Sval
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.18 18:40:00 - [23] Originally by: Savesti Kyrsst We always honour ransoms, we're usually too lazy to offer them though This. Ransom offers really are a gift from a pirate. The pirate is taking a big risk that you might have friends moving in at any time. I rarely offer ransoms, but I did yesterday and of course honored it. Not because I actually care about the other player's ship either. The thing is it's REALLY bad buisiness practice to break ransoms. If you break one not only will that person you broke it to not trust you, but they won't believe pirate's ransoms in the future. Not to mention anyone else they tell. Often a ransom breaker will find an army of ****ed off pirates on their own tail if word gets out. Simply put, it's more benificial to let them go then to milk em. _______________ ReiAyanami> We bring you tidings of AARRRRRRRRR
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.18 18:41:00 - [24] Originally by: Svalentine2 Wierd thing is that some random neutral in local chimed in with 10 mil ransom demand that the vict....errr client paid thinking it would save his ship. Well, when the random neut said he got paid we made sure we sent the guy his money back with an apology and our customer survey form. lol, smart neutral in local. _______________ ReiAyanami> We bring you tidings of AARRRRRRRRR
Commander Thrawn the united Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.04.18 20:25:00 - [25] Originally by: Darius Brinn Originally by: Cpt Branko Well, durrr, you lose less ISK when you pay a ransom and be on your merry way. Which is why it's a mutually beneficent arrangement. Of course. IF you had anything but the looter's word for it. Which is always the only thing you have. The day I accept paying a ransom would be the day the pirate can get Chribba to convo me and verify the operation your paranoia will one day cost you alot. We ran into on guy who had the same mentality as yourself a few days ago. Offered him a 200mill ransom, and he blocked us all lol. He lost way more then he would have had he just payed the ransom. Not very smart imo Victim: xxxxxxxxxx Alliance: NONE Corp: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Destroyed: Tempest Fleet Issue System: Crielere Security: 0.4 Damage Taken: 59475 Involved parties: Name: Commander Thrawn Security: -10.0 Alliance: Sex Panthers Corp: the united Ship: Dominix Weapon: Dominix Damage Done: 27823 Name: Destroyer1020 (laid the final blow) Security: -10.0 Alliance: Sex Panthers Corp: the united Ship: Raven Weapon: Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Damage Done: 26679 Name: ArwenUndomiel Security: -10.0 Alliance: Sex Panthers Corp: the united Ship: Devoter Weapon: Devoter Damage Done: 4973 Name: Gray Carmicheal Security: -9.9 Alliance: Sex Panthers Corp: the united Ship: Falcon Weapon: ECM - White Noise Generator II Damage Done: 0 Destroyed items: Shadow Serpentis Large Plasma Smartbomb Republic Fleet Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets (Cargo) Dual 650mm 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Qty: 2 Shadow Serpentis Tracking Computer Auxiliary Nano Pump I Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Warp Disruptor II (Cargo) True Sansha Large Armor Repairer Damage Control II Republic Fleet EMP L, Qty: 319 Semiconductor Memory Cell I Nanobot Accelerator I True Sansha Armor Explosive Hardener Tracking Speed Dropped items: Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Cap Booster 800 (Cargo) Republic Fleet Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery, Qty: 3 Heavy Capacitor Booster II Cap Booster 800, Qty: 3 Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I True Sansha Large Armor Repairer True Sansha Armor Kinetic Hardener Republic Fleet EMP L, Qty: 159 Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Republic Fleet EMP L, Qty: 920 (Cargo) True Sansha Armor Thermic Hardener Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
z0de Gallente The Bastards	Posted - 2008.04.18 20:33:00 - [26] As a general rule I'd say pirates in pirate corps will honour ransoms as its good business for both parties, they get their missions we get payment. I would advice against paying ransoms to people in npc corps and those that don't rely on it as an income.
Corstaad Minmatar Vardr ok Lidskjalv	Posted - 2008.04.18 20:36:00 - [27] Veto taught me how to ransom the hard way. Also taught me trying to split there AF gang with my trasher wasn't balls but bust. If a ransom isn't offered its either for a reason or they simply don't want to which is fine. Also some of the leeters that kill after successful ransom are actually rping badmen.
Karentaki Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.04.18 21:09:00 - [28] I will ALWAYS honour ransoms, and I'm sure most other pirates will do too. If the pirate is from a reputable corp, chances are 99% that they'll honour it.
Bahhs Deep	Posted - 2008.04.19 01:46:00 - [29] The United honors ransoms. Tell your friends and spread the word. We want their iskies too.
techzer0 IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2008.04.19 02:58:00 - [30] Originally by: DubanFP Originally by: Svalentine2 Wierd thing is that some random neutral in local chimed in with 10 mil ransom demand that the vict....errr client paid thinking it would save his ship. Well, when the random neut said he got paid we made sure we sent the guy his money back with an apology and our customer survey form. lol, smart neutral in local. This is why I get on my corp mates about ransoming in local, it's bad business and alerts everyone present as to what is going on. If someone has a high CSPA charge or rejects convo, I'll pop them. I'd rather keep a private transaction... well, private ------------ Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster

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