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Hardin
Amarr
Epitoth Fleetyards
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2008.04.21 16:05:00 -
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I would like to state before embarking upon this missive that this is not an official CVA document and it no way reflects an official CVA policy. It is written purely from a personal standpoint!
To the pilots of Mercenary Coalition
When my former Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris (PIE) colleagues Caya, Golan Trevize and Kalorn F'anta left that fine organisation and joined Mercenary Coalition several years ago it prompted me to reevaluate my entire view of the organisation
How could brave, loyal Amarrian pilots allow themsleves to be swept into the ranks of infidel barbarians whose only interest in life was the pursuit of ISK?
It baffled me for a time, however I gradually came to see that despite its mercenary nature MC retained a core of honourable and decent pilots that had pledged loyalty to each other rather than existing institutions and alliances.
Since that time the CVA and Mercenary Coalition have clashed heads on several occasions most recently in Querious where CVA went to the assistance of its long term ally IAC.
These clashes sadden me because I believe that at their heart both CVA and MC operate by the same codes of honour and virtue even if our loyalties lie in diffent directions.
At present Mercenary Coalition has generally been acknowledged to have fallen upon 'challenging' times. Its decision to abandon its former 'leaseholder' Band of Brothers (BoB) could come back to haunt it, as could the subsequent decision to attack the peace loving pilots of Intestellar Alcohol Conglomerate (IAC).
When we face challenging times in our lives most people turn to God. Certainly that is what supports the CVA. Our religion and belief in the rightness of our cause gives us succour and sustinence. This permanently refreshes our vigilance and determination to extend Amarrian values throughout the galaxy.
Yet Mercenary Coalition has no god except ISK and there is only so much ISK one can accumulate before it loses its power as an incentive!
So I have this message for the Mercenary Coalition:
Abandon your mercenary ways. Fight not for ISK but fight for a higher, holy cause.
I, and many other Amarrians recognise the prowess of Mercenary Coalition's pilots and their zeal and capabilities. I recognise the talents that your pilots' possess. Yet I also see the despondency that has gripped many. Yes I have no doubt that you will defend your 0.0 possessions until the end and make your enemies pay dearly. But what will it really achieve apart from the destruction of what once was the galaxy's most feared fighting force?
I offer an alternative for your consideration.
Renounce your worldy possessions, hand them over to the Amarrian Empire and forge yourselves anew as a Holy Order dedicated to the imposition of Order and Amarrian values across the galaxy.
Join the CVA and our allies in our eternal struggle against the darkness and chaos that threatens to overwhelm this galaxy. Help us combat the forces of terrorism and 0.0 piracy. Help us expand and develop civilisation in 0.0, opening up these region for all who would exploit them peacefully!
Yes I am sure some of your pilots will not like the idea of working for our Holy Empire, no doubt some will quibble about our support for slavery and other such insignificant matters, but ignore them, for this is an opportunity you should not pass up - for your own long term benefit!
Amarr Victor!
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.04.21 16:59:00 -
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So essentially, some pilots are making a lot of ISK not fighting for your God, and you're feeling sore about it. You do realise the chances of anyone in Mercenary Coalition giving this offer serious consideration are roughly analogous to the chances of PIE Inc. unconditionally surrendering to me, right?
Seriously, MC are much more successful and well-known than VV, and all the petulant whining in the world isn't going to change that. If you don't like what they're doing, I suggest you declare war on them - I mean, you've already done it with me. On that note, I'm looking forward to seeing you in space - but you should know that I'm not holding my breath waiting for it to happen.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.04.21 17:10:00 -
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This must be the longest shot in all of diplomatic history.
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Silver Night
Caldari
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.04.21 17:30:00 -
[4]
 Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda
This must be the longest shot in all of diplomatic history.
Still, you have t give the man credit for trying. I mean, pretty audacious.
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GLS Mr. State
Caldari Patriot.
Sansha's Nation Supporter
Murderer of (his own) Frigates.
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Delictum 23216
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Posted - 2008.04.21 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Silver Night
Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda
This must be the longest shot in all of diplomatic history.
Still, you have to give the man credit for trying. I mean, pretty audacious.
"With audacity one can undertake anything, but not do everything"
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.21 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda
This must be the longest shot in all of diplomatic history.
My thoughts exactly.
If there's no isk trading hands here, I'd be very suprised to see MC do this, but who fracking knows these days. Current political climate is more fecked up than a Gallente pleasure hub.
Good show Hardin. Could do with more Amarr targets, to be honest 
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Revan Neferis
Amarr
Bloodveil
BLOOD EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.04.21 18:11:00 -
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Allow me to re-arrange this proposal with light of Sani Sabik ways: Keep your isk and make much more. Fight for pleasure, power and wealth and for the law of the strong and capable.
Kill the loyalists endlessly and if you do so in the name of Sani Sabik, may your wallets and efforts be praised.
PS: You shall not abstain from alcohol either.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.04.21 18:16:00 -
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Just in the highly unlikely case that MC is fact looking for a nobler cause, I would have a couple of ideas to offer too... 
Elsebeth
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.21 18:21:00 -
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Hells bells, we're all doing it now. Hardin has started a craze 
With that in mind I'd like to make a proposal to MC:
Give up being mercenaries! Throw away your guns and your desire for isk!
Become my personal dancing entourage!
Dance for me and I might throw some corpses your way to have fun with! All this political killing for money is useless anyway. Becoming my dancers will a) make me happy and b) make your lives complete.
Listen to my proposal. I'm sure it's less rediculous than Hardins.
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Grr
Amarr
Epitoth Fleetyards
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2008.04.21 18:48:00 -
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I must make it clear that Hardin is currently on loan to Epitoth Fleetyards and Vigilia Valeria to assist with some administrative matters. His views do not therefore always reflect VV or Epitoths views.
It must also be said however that on this matter we agree completely. The temptation of isk has tainted many of my former allies and it saddens me greatly. The reformation of the Mercenary Coalition into a Holy order is a great idea, tho perhaps many of them are beyond salvation.
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Serenity Celestine
Polaris Project
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.21 19:37:00 -
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Leave it to the scum of Eve to destroy any RP effort they can.
A noble post Hardin, I can only hope that the reasonable people of MC can find the inner strength and will to undertake such a great task and bring the light of Amarr to new parts of the Galaxy.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.04.21 19:46:00 -
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I for one would like to echo the words of Hardin and Grr
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.04.21 19:57:00 -
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The freecaptains of the Star Fraction wish to make it clear that while our doors are open to any pilots who may wish to join our cause, we see no need to hover over the battlefields of the cluster like a disreputable and ragged carrion bird, gimlet-eyed and seeking new allies, levies and bulwarks in the supposed misfortunes of others. I would suggest any pilots considering a relocation give due consideration to the sturdiness of the perches from which such opportunist creatures caw and flap their bedraggled wings in antic displays calculated, so we must guess, to bolster only their own position.
Whatever others may believe, the freecaptains see no noble opportunity for pilots to advance themselves here, only a snap-jaw trap baited with brummagen and false religiosity.
The Cosmopolite
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.04.21 20:18:00 -
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Wow. What an awesome opportunity Hardin proposes! Mercenary Coalition has the opportunity to become slaves to an upstart branch of the Amarrian Empire, transfer all of their assets to their new masters, and exchange ... get to fight their new masters' battles for them! And the offer is not even endorsed by either VV (the alliance in which Hardin temporarily resides) or CVA (the alliance Hardin explicitly states he is not speaking for)!
I'd jump at this offer while it lasts! Well, either that or jump on the offerer. One or the other.
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Becq Starforged
proprietor of Starforge Industries, a subsidiary of Minmatar Ship Construction Services
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.04.21 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Becq Starforged
And the offer is not even endorsed by either VV
Originally by: Grr
It must also be said however that on this matter we agree completely.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Kage Toshimado
Kage Clan
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Posted - 2008.04.21 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: Kage Toshimado on 21/04/2008 21:40:03
Get a tutor to teach us of your God...
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.04.21 23:50:00 -
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I stand corrected. VV -- while disavowing Hardin as a spokesman -- nevertheless endorses the concept of MC enslaving themselves to CVA. CVA as yet firmly hold no position on the matter. As to MC, I strongly suspect that if they were inclined to live in Providence, they could make as muc room for themselves as needed on their own terms -- and without paying Hardin's suggested price for Amarrian friendship.
Now that would be a course of action worth endorsing...
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Becq Starforged
proprietor of Starforge Industries, a subsidiary of Minmatar Ship Construction Services
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Sapphrine
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.04.22 01:06:00 -
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Hardin, you're good at spin but i don't think you've got quite enough to make this work just yet :P
how many drugs do you think they're on?! :)
enjoy your trip.... and to think.... you want people to vote you to CSM?! :)
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Julius Avitus
Amarr
Ordo Crucis Argenteus
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Posted - 2008.04.22 06:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sapphrine
Hardin, you're good at spin but i don't think you've got quite enough to make this work just yet :P
how many drugs do you think they're on?! :)
enjoy your trip.... and to think.... you want people to vote you to CSM?! :)
What is this CSM you are speaking of? Some sort of Gallente rubbish they have fed off to you since ill fate snatched you from us?
((I for one do not think that the CSM is an in-character concept - for one, you shouldn't mix ingame personae and real life.)) |
Sqalevon
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.04.22 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Julius Avitus
Originally by: Sapphrine
Hardin, you're good at spin but i don't think you've got quite enough to make this work just yet :P
how many drugs do you think they're on?! :)
enjoy your trip.... and to think.... you want people to vote you to CSM?! :)
What is this CSM you are speaking of? Some sort of Gallente rubbish they have fed off to you since ill fate snatched you from us?
((I for one do not think that the CSM is an in-character concept - for one, you shouldn't mix ingame personae and real life.))
What is this CSM YOU speak off.
In his orginal post there is no mentioning of it, and there has been no editing either.
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Keism Staukla
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Posted - 2008.04.22 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: Keism Staukla on 22/04/2008 15:52:50
Originally by: Sqalevon
Originally by: Julius Avitus
Originally by: Sapphrine
Hardin, you're good at spin but i don't think you've got quite enough to make this work just yet :P
how many drugs do you think they're on?! :)
enjoy your trip.... and to think.... you want people to vote you to CSM?! :)
What is this CSM you are speaking of? Some sort of Gallente rubbish they have fed off to you since ill fate snatched you from us?
((I for one do not think that the CSM is an in-character concept - for one, you shouldn't mix ingame personae and real life.))
What is this CSM YOU speak off.
In his orginal post there is no mentioning of it, and there has been no editing either.
He did speak of it, you can't always beat the system!
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Ardan
Minmatar
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.04.23 17:28:00 -
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What a great deal. Can we join to? All I have to give up is everything I worked for my entire life. Give up my family, my beliefs, be a slave to a group that is a slave to a group that are slaves to the amarr government that are slaves to the church which are inturn slaves to thier god.
You mean I to could be a dead broke, and broken slave of a slaves, slaves,slaves, slaves,slave, (did i get enough slaves in there?) Where do I sign up? That is just too good to be true. Maybe you could get BoB to join to.
"Let them hate us as long as they Fear us." Colligula |
Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.04.23 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ardan
What a great deal. Can we join to? All I have to give up is everything I worked for my entire life. Give up my family, my beliefs, be a slave to a group that is a slave to a group that are slaves to the amarr government that are slaves to the church which are inturn slaves to thier god.
You mean I to could be a dead broke, and broken slave of a slaves, slaves,slaves, slaves,slave, (did i get enough slaves in there?) Where do I sign up? That is just too good to be true. Maybe you could get BoB to join to.
You're right. It is a good offer. You should take it, as it beats the alternative.
Mind you, given your history, you probably won't start in a position as good as you describe. Still a good offer though.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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LoxyRider
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.04.23 19:28:00 -
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Such a deal would depend on your God's credit rating.
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Uriella VonTessen
Night Theifs
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2008.04.23 19:40:00 -
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This is a generous offer by Lord Hardin. Only a fool wouldnt take it. Fighting along the best Para-military group in Eve would be a great honor.
Eventually the entire Galaxy will fully embrace the Amarrian way, and it will be a better place for it.
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Hardin
Amarr
Epitoth Fleetyards
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2008.04.23 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: LoxyRider
Such a deal would depend on your God's credit rating.
God's credit never runs out!
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Thulsa Doom
Minmatar
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.04.23 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin
Renounce your worldy possessions, hand them over to the Amarrian Empire
NO! Me like big ship. Makes pretty colors when I get angry! 
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KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.23 20:00:00 -
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Nice Hardin.
KIA EVE Home
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Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.04.23 20:18:00 -
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Overall, this is one of the better 'sermons' I've read in a while but, Hardin, there are easier ways to ask a girl out on a date.
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Forty Three
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.04.24 10:59:00 -
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UNITY!!!
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Ardan
Minmatar
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.04.24 12:20:00 -
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As tempting as that offer sounds, I think I will have to pass.
Nothing personal against you Rodj, it's just that I don't like you.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.04.24 13:31:00 -
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I have a better offer for Mercenary Coalition:
How much to invade Providence, trash every planet, every mineral resource and every tactically significant asset in the entire region such that there's nothing left that's worth taking, and then hand the battered corpse of the area over to Ushra'Khan to gloat over when you're finished? Oh, yeah, and do you take checques?
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Uriella VonTessen
Night Theifs
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2008.04.24 18:49:00 -
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To the good people in MC,
I believe Lord Hardin was using a metaphore regaurding turning over your possessions to the Amarr empire. *Uriella points the the message between the lines*
Dont be fooled by the rantings and ramblings of nay sayers, there is no greater honor than being invited to embrace the Amarrian Way. Those who make snide comments and taunts know in their hearts they are not worthy or capable of walking the path. |
Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.04.24 21:12:00 -
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Has anyone noticed how often it is that to Amarrians, the most 'honorable' things involve gain for them in terms of cash, assets, or free labor?
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Becq Starforged
proprietor of Starforge Industries, a subsidiary of Minmatar Ship Construction Services
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.04.24 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Becq Starforged
Has anyone noticed how often it is that to Amarrians, the most 'honorable' things involve gain for them in terms of cash, assets, or free labor?
How dare you say such a thing, Becq! Amarrians never seek fame, or lucre, or servants! They are simply gifts from God for their diligent service.
So... about the Minmatar Rebellion, Vak'Atioth, the assassination of Doriam, the incompetence of the 7th Fleet, the Khanid schism...
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CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Dance Commander |
Stitcher
Caldari
legion of qui
Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.26 13:44:00 -
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Edited by: Stitcher on 26/04/2008 13:44:20
I believe you forgot the Reclaiming, Andreus...
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Ferkimer Burns
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.05.14 18:32:00 -
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Edited by: Ferkimer Burns on 14/05/2008 18:36:51
Stay away from that corp-hopper, Hardin. I mean, just look at his employment history.
He's been kicked around more than a rag doll in a Jita laundromat. (smile)
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.05.14 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ferkimer Burns
Stay away from that corp-hopper, Hardin. I mean, just look at his employment history.
He's been kicked around more than a rag doll in a Jita laundromat. (smile)
Sir, I find your analogies highly amusing. Perhaps you would share some more of them with me?
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Ariko Gunaris
Gallente
Office of Ganking and Commerce
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Posted - 2008.05.14 20:39:00 -
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Did that scum Tyrrax Thorrk ask you to write this pathetic letter Hardin?
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Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.05.14 20:41:00 -
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You are a really special case, Mr. Gunaris.
A real poster boy for some future Gallente anti-serpentis campaign.
Deus Vult!
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Golan Trevize
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.15 08:03:00 -
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From:BDCI Ajax Paladin class.
Location:Nakri Sarum Navy HQ.
Commander:ADM-RET Golan Trevize.
***ADMIRAL TREVIZE SITS BEHINDS HIS DESK WITH A CHEERFULL LOOK , AFTER ADJUSTING THE COMMS UNIT HE STARTS TO SPEAK***
While i wholeheartedly support the CVA¦s efforts in providence and will never break my ties with CVA , i cannot come back into your fold just yet , call it gods will but i have a calling , i must study the ways of the heathen savages so i understand how to defeat them and enslave them.
When the Emperor or Empress returns i will return into the fold of the Church again, and help see that the glory of Amarr spreads once again.
Golan Trevize out...
Transmission ends....
The Gallente ideals of Freedom, Liberty and Equality will be met by the Amarr realities of Lasers, Armor and Battleships.
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Kade Jeekin
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.05.15 09:05:00 -
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Originally by: Golan Trevize (translated)
You don't really expect me to come back to that boring arse piece of rubbish space do you guys? And the girls out here are HOT.
Wohooo!
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zoolkhan
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Fate Weavers
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Posted - 2008.05.15 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda
This must be the longest shot in all of diplomatic history.
It is in fact more likely - that they join up the freedom fighting forces, to even up.
There is no challenge in siding with a carebear nation in yet another fortress that only bob could break. Whats the point? MC has highly skilled pilots, they dont want their skills to be wasted for refueling posses to uphold sovereignity.
Much more likely they would , if they still exsited, look for an opponent bigger than themselfes - thats what they always did, i believe ISK was just a biproduct to cover the expenses.
Holy cause, hardin youre nuts :) A long shot indeed.
However, of course i do not really know what goes on inside seleenes head and those of the MC who still identify themselves with that abbreviation. but i am guessing
theyre having a good but short laugh now.
recruiting -forum
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zoolkhan
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Fate Weavers
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Posted - 2008.05.15 15:25:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Kade Jeekin
Originally by: Golan Trevize (translated)
You don't really expect me to come back to that boring arse piece of rubbish space do you guys? And the girls out here are HOT.
Wohooo!
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.05.15 16:20:00 -
[45]
I've noticed that when terrorists belittle the efforts of fine upstanding loyalists such as Hardin, it usually signifies that they are themselves terrified.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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