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Kontika
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Posted - 2008.04.22 13:34:00 -
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Hi all,
I have been playing EVE for just over 3 weeks now, and have just started a corp to try to help out noobie miners make a little extra cash to get them started. We clearly state this in the corp description.
On our second day of being a corp, with 3 new members all under a week old, some cowards have decided to declare war on my corp.
I have to ask, what sort of cowards declare war on 2-3 day old unarmed miners? How is this in the best interestes of the game to scare away newbies like this?
Is there nothing that can be done to prevent this? I know I cant fight them, at least one of the members is over 6 months old and will far outskill/outgun my and noobs.
Why do people have to stoop to ruining things for everyone else just coz they are bored?
Seriously!
If anyone could help get these loosers off our backs it would be appreciated big time. Any suggestions other than (run and hide) would be welcome also.
Their name is BLOODLUST
Thanks Kontika
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.04.22 13:38:00 -
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Merge as a division or flat out with a larger corporation till you're not all soft targets anymore then re-emerge on your own feet again.
That or change locations often to make them work for their kills.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Akane Miyamoto
Paisti Paisti Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.04.22 13:38:00 -
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Edited by: Akane Miyamoto on 22/04/2008 13:39:03 You have a really few options at this point. And no, there's no absolute way to prevent a wardeclaration on a corporation.
Since you're fresh to the game I doubt you can hire mercenarys to chase them off so that leaves you two options; You train up your combat skills and fight them with cheap frigates (This can prove to be quite educational if you can sustain your PvPing with missions/mining) and during mining sessions ALWAYS look at local for a wartarget entry or optionally disband the corporation temporarily and skill up your characters in NPC corps which are the only way to be wardec safe. You could also all join a larger corporation but that would place you under their command and would somewhat cripple your freedom. Though they can provide a lot of support and advice to you and your friends if you've chosen a good corporation ---------------
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.22 13:47:00 -
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Edited by: Lilan Kahn on 22/04/2008 13:49:36 you have 3 options when your faced with a situation like this.
option 1. is to fight back in cheep ships and learn some basic pvp (this can be alot of fun when you pull off ganking a shiney ship with frigs )
option 2. is to join a alliance to make you very unattracktiv to fight
option 3. is to disband your corp for a while and reform it or dont play eve for a week til they get bored and go away.
my personal recomendation is to go with option 1 and try and earn some respect, dont repeat the mistakes of other peopel and first try out pvp after a long time in empire.
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K'reemy G'udness
Gallente The Greater Goon GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.22 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Kontika Hi all,
I have been playing EVE for just over 3 weeks now, and have just started a corp to try to help out noobie miners make a little extra cash to get them started. We clearly state this in the corp description.
On our second day of being a corp, with 3 new members all under a week old, some cowards have decided to declare war on my corp.
I have to ask, what sort of cowards declare war on 2-3 day old unarmed miners? How is this in the best interestes of the game to scare away newbies like this?
Is there nothing that can be done to prevent this? I know I cant fight them, at least one of the members is over 6 months old and will far outskill/outgun my and noobs.
Why do people have to stoop to ruining things for everyone else just coz they are bored?
Seriously!
If anyone could help get these loosers off our backs it would be appreciated big time. Any suggestions other than (run and hide) would be welcome also.
Their name is BLOODLUST
Thanks Kontika
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El'Tar
Caldari Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2008.04.22 13:54:00 -
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stupid fukin griefers
this is like america declaring war on ethiopia for bein skinny ppl or something IMO. |
gfldex
Kabelkopp
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Posted - 2008.04.22 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Kontika We clearly state this in the corp description.
Why do you tell anybody that you are weak?
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some cowards
Name calling wont get you much respect.
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I have to ask, what sort of cowards declare war on 2-3 day old unarmed miners? How is this in the best interestes of the game to scare away newbies like this?
If you get scared away by a simple war dec or can't find a solution you are a bad player. Bad players are driven out of any game. That's nothing about EVE.
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Is there nothing that can be done to prevent this? I know I cant fight them, at least one of the members is over 6 months old and will far outskill/outgun my and noobs.
If older players are so much more powerful then you, why don't you join them?
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Why do people have to stoop to ruining things for everyone else just coz they are bored?
It could be blood lust.
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If anyone could help get these loosers off our backs it would be appreciated big time.
They are off their backs. That's what war drums do to you.
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Any suggestions other than (run and hide) would be welcome also.
First, stop whining and name calling. Nobody will give you any respect for both. And respect is the only thing you got right now (or better could have gotten). If you can't find out how to fight them, you should not be the leader of you folk. Find somebody else to do it or you will hit this very forum every time there is a problem. Learn how the game works. Learn what the search button can to for you (or use eve-search.com).
What happens to you is there for years and EVE is growing all the time. It's fine, that's why it's not going to get changed and you have to learn how to deal with it.
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There are countless games in the world. There are at least as many ppl that dont like one or more rules of said games. That never stopped smart game designers from creating good games.
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cyberdog
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.22 13:57:00 -
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It's unfortunate that it's happened to you but when you undock in this game you agree to PVP, simple as that.
I don't know of many war-dec corps that will just declare for no reason, so you may have to talk to your members and see if they have spoken to people in bad ways (Smack talk is the biggest reason for a war dec).
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Kage Toshimado
Kage Clan
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Posted - 2008.04.22 13:58:00 -
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What the goon said.
Furthermore, have they offered you terms of surrender? You may have to offer up your surrender in order to retract the war dec.
This kind of thing happens all the time. You will have to adapt and fight back, disband, join them, or meet their demands.
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El'Tar
Caldari Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2008.04.22 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: cyberdog It's unfortunate that it's happened to you but when you undock in this game you agree to PVP, simple as that.
I don't know of many war-dec corps that will just declare for no reason, so you may have to talk to your members and see if they have spoken to people in bad ways (Smack talk is the biggest reason for a war dec).
well sumtimes i get scammed while dockd so i guess thats pvp ( stupid scammers ) ________________________________________________ ME BEING JESUS ******* CHRIST IN MY BATTLEWAGON OF DOOM
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Slave 775
Ministry of Punishment Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.22 13:59:00 -
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Edited by: Slave 775 on 22/04/2008 14:02:58
Originally by: Kontika Hi all,
On our second day of being a corp, with 3 new members all under a week old, some cowards have decided to declare war on my corp.
Maybe try to ask yourself WHY they declare war upon a 3 man corp. Not even the low level griefers would dec a 3 man corp without a reason. BTW you want help, then i highly recommend not posting with a faceless alt.
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Yarrr grr
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Posted - 2008.04.22 14:04:00 -
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I tried to look them up ingame but couldnt find the corp you listed.
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PwnzDeLeOwnz
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.22 14:13:00 -
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Edited by: PwnzDeLeOwnz on 22/04/2008 14:14:09 1. Get everyone in rocket kessies with 4 rocket launchers in highs, 1x shield booster in med 1x scram OR web in med 1x ab in med (go half and half with the scram/web), and 2x BCU in lows. T1 MODS ONLY!!
If not everyone can fly a kessy, get them in a high dps tier 3 frig with the appropriate damage mods. (T1 MODS ONLY)
2. Camp a gate in a known wartarget system
3. Rocket gankage (does wonders on Jita gates with haulers as well).
Even if you lose them all and only kill one or two cruisers, you've still inflicted more damage on them then you've lost. Try to avoid BS/BC fleets if possible.
Also, a competent FC may be useful.
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Setana Manoro
Gallente Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.22 14:17:00 -
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Edited by: Setana Manoro on 22/04/2008 14:22:34 Edited by: Setana Manoro on 22/04/2008 14:19:03
Red Wid0w
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.04.22 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: El'Tar stupid fukin griefers
this is like america declaring war on ethiopia for bein skinny ppl or something IMO.
I know it's not ethiopia, but you should watch that Black Hawk Down film :p
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Tanika Tigerpaw
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Posted - 2008.04.22 14:23:00 -
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THE BLOODLUST
their corp write up says they are pirates.
No they havent made any demand to call off the war.
It looks like they are just using the wardec to get around the security level of the system so they can practice thier piracy in a a high sec system.
As for calling them cowards, i wasn't stooping to name calling, i just couldn't think of any other word that fits a 6month vet who comes up, demands a price that a 2-3 day old cant possibly pay, then blasts the hell out of them for not paying. All in high security space where they are not supposed to be doing it, at least acording to CCP's write up of the game.
i have no problem with people who want to be pirates. Parating can be an honorable proffesion, but when someone is nothing but a cheap thug out for kicks at the expence of new players who are still trying to get thier first new ship..... they degrade the name PIRATE.
Looks like the only otion is to can the corp and loose the 3mil i put into it. I started it to try to help the new miners, but as it turns out its just made them bigger targets for these bullies.
Kontika/Tanika.
p.s. not sure what you mean 'faceless alt' this is my first char, yes I have another but this is my first, and i just discovered how to select which is shown when posting.
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El'Tar
Caldari Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2008.04.22 14:24:00 -
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Edited by: El''Tar on 22/04/2008 14:24:25
Originally by: Red Wid0w
Originally by: El'Tar stupid fukin griefers
this is like america declaring war on ethiopia for bein skinny ppl or something IMO.
I know it's not ethiopia, but you should watch that Black Hawk Down film :p
No thx, I have self respect, a soul, and faith in christ so i dont die. i not watch film ( prolly virus anyway IMO ) ________________________________________________ ME BEING JESUS ******* CHRIST IN MY BATTLEWAGON OF DOOM
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Red Wid0w
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.04.22 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: El'Tar Edited by: El''Tar on 22/04/2008 14:24:25
Originally by: Red Wid0w
Originally by: El'Tar stupid fukin griefers
this is like america declaring war on ethiopia for bein skinny ppl or something IMO.
I know it's not ethiopia, but you should watch that Black Hawk Down film :p
No thx, I have self respect, a soul, and faith in christ so i dont die. i not watch film ( prolly virus anyway IMO )
Ok well let me save you the trouble, the somalis pwn the **** out of the americans :P
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Kage Toshimado
Kage Clan
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Posted - 2008.04.22 14:42:00 -
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You have no idea what you are talking about.
This is inflammatory and very degrading to the honorable American soldiers who tried to help get rid of the Dictator and feed the Somalis under a UN resolution.
You need to watch what you say.
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Kontika
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Posted - 2008.04.22 14:48:00 -
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Edited by: Kontika on 22/04/2008 14:48:24 Um, I'm seing the topic here sliding out the window. This isn't about america or third world dictators..... its about bullies that think shooting up a noobies ibis is a way to show how tough they are.
Thanks Navigator T
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Slave 775
Ministry of Punishment Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.22 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Tanika Tigerpaw THE BLOODLUST
p.s. not sure what you mean 'faceless alt' this is my first char, yes I have another but this is my first, and i just discovered how to select which is shown when posting.
In this case apology's.
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mingeta dong
BEER Inc. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.04.22 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: gfldex First, stop whining and name calling. Nobody will give you any respect for both. And respect is the only thing you got right now (or better could have gotten). If you can't find out how to fight them, you should not be the leader of you folk. Find somebody else to do it or you will hit this very forum every time there is a problem. Learn how the game works. Learn what the search button can to for you (or use eve-search.com).
What happens to you is there for years and EVE is growing all the time. It's fine, that's why it's not going to get changed and you have to learn how to deal with it.
This TBQFH.
@ the OP: Everyone loves a resourceful noob, no one likes a whiner.
Learn and fight back, be resourceful, you will gain respect and maybe some friends...if one of those is a logistics pilot you can maybe enjoy watching your griefer enemies burn
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Tchell Dahhn
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Posted - 2008.04.22 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Tanika Tigerpaw Looks like the only otion is to can the corp and lose the 3mil i put into it. I started it to try to help the new miners, but as it turns out its just made them bigger targets for these bullies.
Give this thread a day or so to make the rounds, as there are probably more than a few Merc Corps (Noob Mercs - you guys wanna step up?) that would be more than happy to assist you pro bono.
Don't give up too easily - there are more than enough "New" Corporations in EvE which have this happen to them. I don't want to see you guys have to disband such a small Corp just because some players see you as an easy target.
(Aside - Maybe Joe Starbreaker wants to break into the Merc biz...)
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Kage Toshimado
Kage Clan
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Posted - 2008.04.22 15:18:00 -
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(Aside - Maybe Joe Starbreaker wants to break into the Merc biz...)
Isn't Joe busy wardeccing all those people in his thread?
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Tzar'rim
Reckless Corsairs
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Posted - 2008.04.22 15:21:00 -
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If you want help in the form of information, tactics, options and whatnot, feel free to contact me ingame.
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Tchell Dahhn
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Posted - 2008.04.22 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kage Toshimado Isn't Joe busy wardeccing all those people in his thread?
I'm sure there's always room for one more!
The Tchell Dahhn Manifesto |
AKULA UrQuan
Caldari STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.04.22 15:27:00 -
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This sort of thing is a right of passage for just about every corp in eve. I went through this when I was barly a month old. So don't sweat it too much.
Best advice I can give. Learn to fly disposable blackbirds. Once your attackers spend more time jamed than shooting they'll quitely let the war dec lapse. You might even kill a few while doing it and have some fun.
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Fli
Amarr Lonesome Carnival Brokerage
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Posted - 2008.04.22 15:28:00 -
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Um...your 'pirate' gang is just a few noobies as well..I say laugh them off and if you see them head into port..they'll get bored soon enough...
Cheers!
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Tanika Tigerpaw
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Posted - 2008.04.22 15:34:00 -
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well, i sent joe and evemail asking if he's interested... we shall wait and see.
Failing that, i am planning on buying a small fleet of disposable kestrels and stocking the corp hanger with them for the noobs to fly, hopefully they wont feel to bad loosing them if they dont have to pay for them.
T
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Havohej
The Defias Brotherhood ANTHRAX DEATH
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Posted - 2008.04.22 15:51:00 -
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Quote: some cowards
Quote: what sort of cowards
Quote: get these loosers off our backs
It's been said that these guys are young 'pirates', so perhaps they just decided that it'd make the most sense for them to prey on a similarly young carebear corporation as they're getting the hang of things.
But, from the three pieces of your OP that I've quoted, I think I have a VERY good idea of what happened here. Consider the following:
You guys have recently discovered how much smoother things go when you mine into jet cans and haul it later, so you're doing so. One of your corpmates gets can flipped by someone within Bloodlust corporation, and proceeds to talk a bunch of smack, either on local or in a private convo. They tell the can flipper what a "looser" he is, and how he's a coward for 'picking on a helpless mining ship', and they ask him why he doesn't go to lowsec like a real man if he wants to PvP. This can flipper gets offended, OR just wants to make your corpmate cry more... next thing you know, you've got mail from CONCORD notifying you of a wardec.
If you're helpless and you know it, don't talk smack. Ever. Anywhere. Not even on the forum (it's not unheard of for a wardec to come out of a hostile exchange on these boards).
Further, consider this: You're 3 weeks into the game. That's long enough to get through the trial and find out how steep the learning curve is. Do you really think you need to be your own CEO already? This isn't a flame or a troll, Kontika, but you have no idea what you're getting into, especially as an industrial/mining corporation - even in highsec. You and your people would be better off joining an established corporation where you can learn to play the game. If you insist on learning things the hardest way possible, though, just do yourself a favor and take the "We're weak noobs" thing out of your corp's description... to show weakness is to invite destruction in this game - none of us care about you unless you provide some opportunity for profit.
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