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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.22 23:36:00 -
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*yawn*
Not exactly news that someone decides to camp the oij gate.
Magic 8 Ball predicts that the killboards will show who can't be bothered to check intel and who is bored enough to look for a fight there.
Do you count losses by your various out of corp alts in these k/d ratios?
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.23 15:28:00 -
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Edited by: *****zilla on 23/04/2008 15:29:44
 Originally by: DHB WildCat
Watch the movie and then if you feel you can smack me again, then have at it.
Hmmmm, a challenge.
You couldn't kill the other 20+ in that gang? I'm sure a top tier pvp alliance could have killed that entire gang including the carriers! And done so using only a solo velator! Don't tell me you lost a Hyena to smashkill.. Did the pilot fall asleep?
Originally by: Plaetean
Nice as always, but looking forward to seeing the smashkill campaign results already!
They're on track to get 1500-1600 kills if they stay there a month. Expected more to be honest.
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.28 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: TZeer
...but when we are killing stuff and get well over 10 bil in 2 weeks, just in loot. How much do you think the stuff we blew up is worth? Is that ISK that just came out of thin air?
Wow, I thought Burn Eden made more. Its great you can pay to pvp this way. If you figure out how much isk/hour/char you're making there are other ways to make more isk.
Smashkill has lost way way way more isk on fairly routine battles that were over in less than hour. What is different here is that Burn Eden has the patience to stay on a single gate and make a CAOD post about it. Burn Eden is certainly good at what you do. I also think you're seriously overrating your effect and the economics of the situation.
To put this in perspective, 10bil in 2 weeks isn't bad for a series of corp mining ops a few hours every night. It represents about the effort of 5 people seriously ratting. So then take the value of fittings and ships spread out across a few thousand. Say we're looking at 100bil in losses. This represents maybe an hour of ratting per month for the average person.
Many don't rat/mine all of the time. They rat/mine until they have enough to buy a ship and outfit it. They fly it. They lose it. They repeat the process. Losing ships often simply changes the formula towards a bit more isk making. We're back at someone spending an hour extra ratting versus looking for pvp. This isn't a zero sum game where isk disappears.
If someone isn't paying attention and gets ganked, yes it may hurt them. They deserved it. For most this is simply a nice way to have some fun.
Originally by: TZeer
We have to do something right, since many alliances who claim we have no impact on their day to day operations, takes the time to get carrier support, 30-40 man gangs and sometimes supercap support.... just to have a "good fight" against a few guys who "have no innfluence on their day to day operations".....
At least for bwf if you'll look it has always been this way. Every month or two someone camps it. Carriers and gangs go have fun. A post on COAD follows. The names in local change. Thats about it.
Most of the kills there are either ganks on those who cannot check intel or folks that are bored. It doesn't exactly take much to get a 30-40 man gang together with cap support.
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