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Nathanial Victor
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2008.04.23 18:03:00 -
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my munnin would like to have a word with you
"one more spam thread will get you a warning.
- Thanks Hutch. "
isn't a warning of a warning a warning? or just a warning of a warning? didnt he just get 'the warning'?
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Xaen
Caldari
Caritas.
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Posted - 2008.04.23 18:09:00 -
[32]
I think you've mistaken the eagle for the Muninn.
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Tai Paktu
Mortis Incarnatus
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Posted - 2008.04.23 18:31:00 -
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I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. Nice troll.
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Vitrael
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.04.23 18:59:00 -
[34]
 Originally by: AdamHernandez
Really, worst. HAC. Ever.
You were thinking of the Muninn.
Eagle: The wtfbbq frigate and cruiser killer with virtual impunity at 180km. The ship is pure awesomesauce. Peruse the forums or talk with other players who use it successfully for fitting/flying tips and come back smiling. The fifth turret really makes it scary for all frig pilots.
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari
STK Scientific
Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.04.23 19:03:00 -
[35]
Eagle isn't too shabby running around with null loaded T2 blasters as well. Still, chucking spike out to damn near 200km is what it does best. No other HAC comes remotely close to pulling that off.
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Hannibal218
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Posted - 2008.04.27 10:52:00 -
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I've seen the suggestions here for an eagle sniping ship and tested them with EFT, they do seem cool, but I for one am not yet in the situation where i will take part in massive fleet engagments.
i would like to use an eagle soloing or in a small fleet and for that i'd like to make it the best dps machine possible for an eagle.
with 5 blasters the eagle could perform nicely i think in close quarters and even take out a drake
here is my setup, and i know its problematic in the shield boosting zone, any suggestion will be welcomed.
<high>
3*T2 large Neutron blasters (null ammo) (range about 13km)
2*T2 large Ion blasters (null ammo) (range about 11km)
1 free
</high>
<medium> and this is where the problem goes
1 T2 10mn after burner (allthough i could probably get a named one)
1 T2 medium cap booster
2!!! * pithi B-type small shield booster
1 multy rule slot (boost amplifer,warp jammer, webifier)
</medium>
<low>
2* T2 magnetic field stablizers
2* T2 tracking enhancers
</low>
<rigs>
2* EM screeners
</rigs>
the fact i am using two small shield boosters is an issue, but i couldnt find or afford a good medium shield boosters and large shield boosters eat the ship. so i went with two pithi-B small shield boosters.
this gives a very good dps that can defeat a drake i think, and maybe even dent a battleship, but i didnt test that.
any suggestion is appriciated
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Gypsio III
Bambooule
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Posted - 2008.04.27 11:19:00 -
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Quote:
this gives a very good dps that can defeat a drake i think
No chance whatsoever. The Drake has more damage, more tank and has MWD and full tackle. It would be complete suicide.
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Hannibal218
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Posted - 2008.04.27 12:29:00 -
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i have out tanked a drake, it takes time but with a warp scrambler eventually the drake is destroyed
even using em missiles the drake cannot out tank me with the two pithi B shield boosters
not only that, but a passive tank drake usually wont use all the extra modules you mentioned, you cant put a MWD and ballistic controlls and passive tank so well, and deliver enough damage.
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Gypsio III
Bambooule
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Posted - 2008.04.27 12:54:00 -
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Let me assure you that the Drake can. But you are right to say that most Drakes aren't fit like that.
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FT Diomedes
Gallente
Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2008.04.27 13:07:00 -
[40]
He was clearly talking about PvE.
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Jai Kedrick
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Posted - 2008.04.27 13:18:00 -
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Stick 4 neutron and 1 electron blaster (tech2) and with faction/tech 2 ammo hit out from 8km- 17km....
I lub the Bleagle....
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Annalena
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Posted - 2008.04.27 13:51:00 -
[42]
Originally by: FT Diomedes
He was clearly talking about PvE.
Why bothering PVE in an eagle when insurable raven are so easy / lazy to use ?...
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FT Diomedes
Gallente
Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2008.04.27 13:59:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Annalena
Originally by: FT Diomedes
He was clearly talking about PvE.
Why bothering PVE in an eagle when insurable raven are so easy / lazy to use ?...
Maybe he doesn't like flying larger ships? I don't know why he would chease the Eagle over a Raven for PvE. With that said, I've had some fun with HACs in Level IV missions (and by fun I mean something more challenging to use than my CNR).
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Hannibal218
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Posted - 2008.04.27 14:15:00 -
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i am in the process of moving from missiles to cannons, just dont like missiles
after losing 6 ravens, 4 of them due to game lags i've decided i had it with this ship.
each time the game gets stuck i lose a raven, even though i was winning the mission (lvl 4) easily.
with a fast ship that can run away its safer.
not only that, i need a ship to guard my mining.
if some one comes and steal from me, i need to get back to station quick, and come back with somthing fast and agile.
i used to do so with a harpy and it was quite successfull, but now i have moved up to an eagle, and i am looking for a good eagle blaster setup.
fighting against looters is usually close quarters you dont want them to flee, and its also usually 1-1 so a sniping eagle is not what i need. i want a similar configuration to my blaster harpy, but this time a blaster eagle :)
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari
STK Scientific
Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.04.27 14:58:00 -
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Don't mission around Motsu, or any of the popular mission hubs then. There is plenty of other Caldari NPC corp that offer good quality kill agents.
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Ban Shui
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.04.27 15:39:00 -
[46]
Originally by: AdamHernandez
I wouldn't exclude the rokh ( as the best support sniper)...I can set the eagle up so i can hit out at 150, and 10 if needed with javelin. The thing is a frig gets too close and you're screwed if he's got a scram. You can't reliably use the ship in a lvl3 much less 4 mission. I just see something wrong with that when my ferox (which can hit about 120k and is capable of using drones) takes less time to skill, can hold up a matching tank, and cost less.
I hear tach apocs also make good snipers.
The OP makes a good point, a drone bay would be nice on the eagle. But then again, it is a ship that should be flown with support.
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Alex Shurk
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Posted - 2008.04.27 15:55:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Ban Shui
a drone bay would be nice on the eagle.
Nice, but hilariously overpowered.
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kor anon
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.04.27 16:20:00 -
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One day the OP will look back on this thread and hang his head in shame
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Hannibal218
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Posted - 2008.04.27 16:33:00 -
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Nobody uses an eagle with blasters? all in all, it does deal more damage than the cerberus and tanks better
i still think that an eagle with 5 blasters and good skills is quite a foe.
what do you think about my shield boosting? (using two pithi B-type small shield booster)
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Hannibal218
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Posted - 2008.04.28 01:55:00 -
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I took my blaster eagle to level 4 missions, i replaced the shield boost amplifier with a webifier.
right now i dont have all the skills i used T1 blasters and my skill at heavy assault ships is not even level 3.
i must say that the eagle handed the level 4 pretty well, the two pithi B type small shield boosters tank very well, it can perma use a single one and most of the times its enough the annoying thing is as allways... you need to fly to each NPC because of the blaster's short range. you must use a webifier to take out frigates and spider drones, or else the ship is doomed.
my ship has a potential to become 30-40% stronger, at that point i think it could do level 4 missions. and take out a drake. but it could never take out a battleship.
it could tank a battleship though, easilly. i tested this today
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Psorion
The Nine Gates
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Posted - 2008.04.28 02:50:00 -
[51]
Originally by: kor anon
One day the OP will look back on this thread and hang his head in shame
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Merlinde
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.04.28 04:24:00 -
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Edited by: Merlinde on 28/04/2008 04:26:09
In fleet the whole idea of an eagle is you are not supposed to let stuff get close (ie warp in @ +~-200km, align, kill any fig dumb enough to come towards u OR that is sitting still)
I love the eagle (btw load caldari antimatter, and shoot at fighters, watch how fast they die)
...every ship has a purpose and not many ships can much more than there intended purpose..
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Thorexion Lynch
Gallente
C R Y O
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Posted - 2008.04.28 09:16:00 -
[53]
Originally by: AdamHernandez
Really, worst. HAC. Ever.
First it's slow, so you can't really get into optimal as fast as you need.
Try being Gallente, we're normally dead before we get in close enough glass cannons FTW
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Vanessa Vale
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Posted - 2008.04.28 10:15:00 -
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If the eagle is useless the muninn must be dividing by 0.
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Cpt Cosmic
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Posted - 2008.04.28 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: Hannibal218
... stuff ...
you think your "eagle" can kill a drake? must be joke.
your setup has no scrambler and no mwd that means you will not be able maintain range and hold your target, it will just warp off if things go bad. then a properly fitted drake will destroy your shields in 30 seconds and if it loads em missiles your shields will fade in 10 seconds.
even if you had 5 neutrons II and 3 mag stabs II, a properly fitted buffer gank drake would last 3 minutes under your fire before its EHP run out. The Drake would eat you in not even half the time.
@topic
btw the eagle is fine in what it does, snipe. it just suffers the problem, all caldari ships have, it needs mid slots for tank what means it can not fit atleast mwd/scram/web.
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Hannibal218
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Posted - 2008.04.28 12:34:00 -
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Cpt Cosmic, I've created a thread of my own called "my blaster eagle"
i have easilly tanked a drake with only 1 pithi B-type small shield booster active and the drake fired EM at me.
i could fit a warp scrambler instead of a webifier and i use a 10MN after burner
please though, can you answer me at my own thread, it will be alot easier to keep track
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