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mancert
The Funhouse
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Posted - 2008.04.23 18:26:00 -
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A little post about Tau Ceti Federation [TCF] and Free Trade Zone [FTZ] alliance's.
We had an incident with a pilot who is a resident in Omist region which TCF runs. I'm not naming that pilot, but he knows who he is if he reads it. We where living down there until recently we got ôkickedö out. We was ratting in a system where some pilots which we suspect to use macro-ratters normally roam. We noticed this because they just came in and killed all our spawns which we where already shooting at. And when we tried to say ôHey, what are you doingö. And no response.
[ 2008.04.03 08:43:51 ] Mine Osaurus > XXXXX i'm in permatank mode
[ 2008.04.03 08:44:11 ] Mine Osaurus > stop killing them XXXXX
[ 2008.04.03 08:44:22 ] Mine Osaurus > killing them is killing me in time
[ 2008.04.03 08:44:47 ] Mine Osaurus > XXXXX STOP
[ 2008.04.03 08:45:43 ] Mine Osaurus > XXXXX STOP DAMNIT
[ 2008.04.03 08:45:54 ] Mine Osaurus > IF YOU KILL THESE YOU ARE USING A MACRO
[ 2008.04.03 08:46:59 ] Nerfz > XXXXX what on earth are you doing?
[ 2008.04.03 08:58:42 ] Mine Osaurus > XXXXX?
[ 2008.04.03 09:06:47 ] Mine Osaurus > now my drones are killed....
[ 2008.04.03 09:06:54 ] Mine Osaurus > i hope you are happy
[ 2008.04.03 10:23:40 ] Mine Osaurus > STOP XXXXX
[ 2008.04.03 10:31:43 ] XXXXX > ok
[ 2008.04.03 10:32:23 ] XXXXX > sorry i'll reimburse ... someone else was playing
[ 2008.04.03 10:32:31 ] XXXXX > what did he kill lol?
[ 2008.04.03 10:35:54 ] ZUAHNA > XXXXXX you there?
[ 2008.04.03 10:36:37 ] XXXXXXX > yea
[ 2008.04.03 10:37:50 ] ZUAHNA > warping into belts with guys already there..and wasting there spawns,,did you know about this?
[ 2008.04.03 10:39:37 ] XXXXX > wasnt here ... plus i normally have a policy of moving on if there is already someone there.
Yes the log have been edited to XXXXX out the name of the pilot.
As you can read from the log here. He comes in to the belt and started to shoot. And then left. He even admits not being in front of his computer. We took this case to his CEO and told him about the situation. Nothing happened. Then we contacted the CEO again because it was still happening. And CEO still did nothing.
We got more members in our corporation and expanded a bit outside that particular system. So I guess there was not room enough for both us and their macro-ratters. They turned to TCF and told them we had done the same things to them. I was presented with accusations. But when I asked for proof from logs which they had. No one suddenly had the logs. Quickly after the XXXXX corporation/alliance had contacted TCF. A new set of rules applied to all FTZ regions and systems.
HI all
I have been informed of problems between some residents/ftz
1) No petitionning against an other resident for macroing or so
2) Problems with other resident must be seen with me.
3) No smack talk.
4) No killing of an other resident for a farming problem or so.
5) People that have been convicted of not respecting rules regarding farming will be asked to leave FTZ
6) Corporation that keep members not respecting rules , will be kiked form FTz or for resident corpo out of FTZ set red within 48h after last warning.
7) Smack and insult on alliance chan or infos channel will directly drive this member out of FTZ area.
8) Corporation that have past fee still due will have 30 days to pay their due before being kikked.
for other rules please re read http://ftz.tauceti-federation.com/
Best regards
Don K
Signed by contact person for omist region in TCF. What he here states in his first new rule, is that petitioning other residents for macro usage is not allowed. Now to my knowledge that is against this game's EULA. Correct me if I'm wrong. So they kicked us out for following the game rules??
[ 2008.04.19 16:43:53 ] mancert > and when it comes to macroratters... read EULA
[ 2008.04.19 16:44:06 ] mancert > you can't deny people to report them...
[ 2008.04.19 16:44:11 ] Don Korleone > well it is at tenak to decide to petition
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mancert
The Funhouse
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Posted - 2008.04.23 18:27:00 -
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As you can see here, he says to me that it is not up to us to report them.
Draw you're own conclusions about this. But before you do, take a look at Tau Ceti Federation International. And have a look at their members names.
Ring a Bell???
-mancert-
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Tenak
Kernel of War
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.04.23 18:49:00 -
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Hello,
Yes we support macro miners and macro farmers and every macro, we sell macro on ebay, we sell macro on internet, we exploit young babies etc etc.
So, we had problems with your corporation in the past, you harass some people in belt that are our residents => you're kicked.
We do not support macro, you can make a petition if you suspect someone that use a macro and then let CCP do their job, you haven't to make the notification and the police.
We wish to permit corporations to have an access to 0.0 and we want our residents to have the best gameplay that we can offer. It's a game, we needn't tensions, we take decisions to avoid conflicts between residents.
Now, you may find fun elsewhere.
Best regards,
Tenak.
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bjarnearne
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Posted - 2008.04.23 18:55:00 -
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Edited by: bjarnearne on 23/04/2008 18:55:22
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mancert
The Funhouse
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Posted - 2008.04.23 18:56:00 -
[5]
 Originally by: Tenak
Hello,
Yes we support macro miners and macro farmers and every macro, we sell macro on ebay, we sell macro on internet, we exploit young babies etc etc.
So, we had problems with your corporation in the past, you harass some people in belt that are our residents => you're kicked.
We do not support macro, you can make a petition if you suspect someone that use a macro and then let CCP do their job, you haven't to make the notification and the police.
We wish to permit corporations to have an access to 0.0 and we want our residents to have the best gameplay that we can offer. It's a game, we needn't tensions, we take decisions to avoid conflicts between residents.
Now, you may find fun elsewhere.
Best regards,
Tenak.
Well we sill lack the evidence. And as written earlier, when i asked for it, nobody had it!
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Shinori
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.23 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: mancert
Well we sill lack the evidence. And as written earlier, when i asked for it, nobody had it!
I have all da evidence you need, contact me for a reasonable price.
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Elise Randolph
Slacker Industries
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2008.04.23 19:04:00 -
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They support Chinese isk farmers. So does almost every big alliance. It's pathetic. They are the cancer of EVE.
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Max Nero
Xeno Tech Corp
United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2008.04.23 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Tenak
Hello,
Yes we support macro miners and macro farmers and every macro, we sell macro on ebay, we sell macro on internet, we exploit young babies etc etc.
So, we had problems with your corporation in the past, you harass some people in belt that are our residents => you're kicked.
We do not support macro, you can make a petition if you suspect someone that use a macro and then let CCP do their job, you haven't to make the notification and the police.
We wish to permit corporations to have an access to 0.0 and we want our residents to have the best gameplay that we can offer. It's a game, we needn't tensions, we take decisions to avoid conflicts between residents.
Now, you may find fun elsewhere.
Best regards,
Tenak.
^^^^^ That is all nice and fluffy but please explain why are you trying to police players' right to petition?
THIS:
-----Don Korleone > well it is at tenak to decide to petition
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Boom ChickaBoom
Caldari
Friendly Pod Poppers
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Posted - 2008.04.23 19:15:00 -
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1) What systems were the suspects ratting in i could use some fresh targets
2) As far as i know most alliance do not support macros just Goons, TCF, and RA/alt alliances.
3) This is what you get for being a pet.
A better choice would have been to report this to CCP with proof before going on the forums.
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MineralOel Steuer
Amarr
OP EC
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Posted - 2008.04.23 19:21:00 -
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Someone told me BOB is full of Macros!
It's just Molle, Dian. and this tremendous fem. DICE FC playing.
c/d? |
Comander Brenni
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Posted - 2008.04.23 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Boom ChickaBoom
1) What systems were the suspects ratting in i could use some fresh targets
2) As far as i know most alliance do not support macros just Goons, TCF, and RA/alt alliances.
3) This is what you get for being a pet.
A better choice would have been to report this to CCP with proof before going on the forums.
Omist region 0DD-MH, 99-OGS, MMUF-8,X-3AUU and R1-JB1, Ravens and Drakes
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bjarnearne
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2008.04.23 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Boom ChickaBoom
1) What systems were the suspects ratting in i could use some fresh targets
2) As far as i know most alliance do not support macros just Goons, TCF, and RA/alt alliances.
3) This is what you get for being a pet.
A better choice would have been to report this to CCP with proof before going on the forums.
Well we had a lot of stuff down there which needed to be shiped out before they set us, i guess now, RED :D
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Lasakywa
Section XIII
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.04.23 19:27:00 -
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I'm tired of all these macroposters here..
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Graalum
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.04.23 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Lasakywa
I'm tired of all these macroposters here..
sorry 
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easei
AnTi.
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2008.04.23 19:32:00 -
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It's obvious to tell if they are farmers. Shoot them. If they scream curse and whine in local afterwords, it was just an incompetent player. If you get no response, or a response along the lines of "stop violence my boat" you have a farmer.
Also like to the people who are responsible for recruiting, doesn't it strike you as odd when they aren't logged into vent/ts? Why do no pilots from this corp come on alliance ops? These are just a few questions you should be asking.
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TTIGER
FAST IMPACT
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Posted - 2008.04.23 19:38:00 -
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Edited by: TTIGER on 23/04/2008 19:42:36
hard to believe if someone is macroing at these systems, must be a moron ,i ratted there at past rat bounties were crap but than i had only a ferox and could not kill better spawns .
Sorry mansert convo only tells guy leave in front of computer, to believe guy is macroing i would ask better proof but if you have suspect petition  .
Originally by: Comander Brenni
Omist region 0DD-MH, 99-OGS, MMUF-8,X-3AUU and R1-JB1, Ravens and Drakes
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Boom ChickaBoom
Caldari
Friendly Pod Poppers
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Posted - 2008.04.23 19:43:00 -
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Do they auto log as soon as a nuetral comes in system? like the old chicken mode on diablo II.
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mancert
The Funhouse
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Posted - 2008.04.23 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: TTIGER
hard to believe if someone is macroing at these systems, must be a moron ,i ratted there past rat bounties were crap but than i had only a ferox.
Sorry mansert convo only tells guy leave in front of computer to believe guy is macroing i would ask better proof but if you have suspect petition .
Originally by: Comander Brenni
Omist region 0DD-MH, 99-OGS, MMUF-8,X-3AUU and R1-JB1, Ravens and Drakes
Well the case here is not wheter he xxxxx was macroratting. But the fact that TCF set the rules down there to not petition suspected macroratters.
As you can read further up in this thread. Alliance rules where set to NOT petition fellow alliance members for macro-suspicion.
And ofcourse i would not petition without enough evidence. But it is kinda hard not to draw conclusions due to the fact that xxxxx was claiming to be away. And belive me, it was not the first time this happend.
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Boom ChickaBoom
Caldari
Friendly Pod Poppers
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Posted - 2008.04.23 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: mancert
Originally by: TTIGER
hard to believe if someone is macroing at these systems, must be a moron ,i ratted there past rat bounties were crap but than i had only a ferox.
Sorry mansert convo only tells guy leave in front of computer to believe guy is macroing i would ask better proof but if you have suspect petition .
Originally by: Comander Brenni
Omist region 0DD-MH, 99-OGS, MMUF-8,X-3AUU and R1-JB1, Ravens and Drakes
Well the case here is not wheter he xxxxx was macroratting. But the fact that TCF set the rules down there to not petition suspected macroratters.
As you can read further up in this thread. Alliance rules where set to NOT petition fellow alliance members for macro-suspicion.
And ofcourse i would not petition without enough evidence. But it is kinda hard not to draw conclusions due to the fact that xxxxx was claiming to be away. And belive me, it was not the first time this happend.
Is this not evidence that they support it? CCP can lookk up those chat logs pretty easily.
1) No petitionning against an other resident for macroing or so
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar
Aeden
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.04.23 19:55:00 -
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Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 23/04/2008 19:55:56
Originally by: easei
It's obvious to tell if they are farmers. Shoot them. If they scream curse and whine in local afterwords, it was just an incompetent player. If you get no response, or a response along the lines of "stop violence my boat" you have a farmer.
Also like to the people who are responsible for recruiting, doesn't it strike you as odd when they aren't logged into vent/ts? Why do no pilots from this corp come on alliance ops? These are just a few questions you should be asking.
If you have "stop violence my boat", it could be any of our members  . A third of our players can't speak english really well
@op : I don't even understand why you didn't petition XXXXX and asked our mighty powers if you could. Petition him and don't say a word, period.
2isk
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Nerfz
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Posted - 2008.04.23 19:55:00 -
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Gonna clarify situation a bit.
Mine Osaurus was mining in a belt permatanking a spawn without probs while having miningdrones out in space aswell.
Then the XXXXX who is always ratting in that system warps in same belt and starts killing the spawn. Then the posted text was
said in local.
Anyway new spawn in belt and they kill my drones. (Mine Osaurus has sound off to not get nuts of the mininglaser sound)
Then around 15mins after losing the drones, XXXXX warps in belt again and starts killing spawn again...
After a few minutes he talks in local saying sorry and he would reimburse the harvesters and blames his wife.
For me case was closed expecting he would reimburse me some time later.
BUT, a few weeks later we find ourselves having to quit the alliance cause false accusations...
Following is a convo between mancert and Tenak;
[ 2008.04.19 17:06:23 ] Tenak > The Fact I've been told with logs:
1/ Some of your pilots killed farmed pops used by miners
2/ Some of your pilots killed farmed pops
3/ your pilots smack the local
4/ Your pilots petitions some Burning horizon as macromin...
Hmmm what can I say? This is telling the story upside down...
1/ we never kill spawns tanked by miners
2/ we never kill other ppl spawns for simple reason we rat aswell and wouldnt like anyone to do same to us
3/ we smacktalk? hmm maybe a little towards targets, who doesnt?
4/ if Burning Horizons was petitioned then they are aiming their anger at the wrong corp cause we didnt...
XXXXX is online nearly 23/7, once in a while hes idle at POS tho but those times are way to small to be called sleeping time.
Another thing is he only kills the rats and never loots or salvages...
And he isnt the onlyone. Nearby systems are all having players ratting who seem to have 'a serious sleeping disorder'
Since this crap started the 23/7 online time has significantly dropped tho... Someone starting to feel the heat?
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar
Aeden
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.04.23 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Nerfz
alt post
pwym
2isk
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Nerfz
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Posted - 2008.04.23 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
Originally by: Nerfz
alt post
pwym
What does that mean?
I am not mancerts alt if thats what you are saying |
mancert
The Funhouse
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Posted - 2008.04.23 20:12:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
Originally by: Nerfz
alt post
pwym
No nerfz is not my alt!
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Elias Modron
Rage For Order
Nihil-Obstat
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Posted - 2008.04.23 20:15:00 -
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This topic is the best topic.
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TTIGER
FAST IMPACT
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Posted - 2008.04.23 20:18:00 -
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You have a moron macroing than  ,i had ratted there before salvaging hit the game ,alloyed trit bars will give double or triple income than bounties probably but i have no idea how good or bad salvage at these systems
But main question is how can they know one of you petitioned another corporation's member?
Originally by: Nerfz
XXXXX is online nearly 23/7, Another thing is he only kills the rats and never loots or salvages...
4/ Your pilots petitions some Burning horizon as macromin...
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N0R0X
Rage For Order
Nihil-Obstat
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Posted - 2008.04.23 20:18:00 -
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EPIC Thread  |
Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar
Aeden
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.04.23 20:20:00 -
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Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 23/04/2008 20:24:15
Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 23/04/2008 20:21:28
Originally by: Nerfz
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
Originally by: Nerfz
alt post
pwym
What does that mean?
I am not mancerts alt if thats what you are saying
I'm saying posting here have rules and you should read them before your posts are deleted :)
I am pretty sure my alliance will endorse this anyway :
If you see any macroers blue, red, grey, petition him.
Our alliance have strict rules about low-sec pirating, smacktalk and other bad aspects of Eve we want to avoid. The bad reputation some of our opponents try to stick to us are unwelcomed at best and laughed at inside our alliance for sure...
Petition them, then.
The problem is framing players in this game is really easy. Post 2/3 logs, blame a player with a character who is a star in these forums and that's it. Our alliance is mostly french speaking (+/- 80%). Most of us are not vocal here. 75% of our players don't read this forums and thus we are under-represented and misknown by the community (and maybe CCP). They won't be able to defend themselves against an angry player or gm. I think that what Tenak wanted to avoid without certitude.
I'd say 50% of french speaking players can't speak a damn word in english. For them the local is like
uesfkufeskugceskuceskudeskudesukdevv ???
KUDGB !!!
1hescdskjtdbc 12 zekvkczek.
Petition macroers and see what happens...
2isk
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Nerfz
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Posted - 2008.04.23 20:22:00 -
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Well how they know??? they don't!
Maybe someone of other corps/alliances petitioned them and cause of the incident with Mine Osaurus earlier they prolly assume we are the ev0l ones...
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Two Beans
Sigma Holding Corp
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.23 20:23:00 -
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Edited by: Two Beans on 23/04/2008 20:23:48
I use uber micro.
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His Royal Highness
King Two Beans
King of CAOD
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar
Aeden
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.04.23 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Nerfz
Well how they know??? they don't!
Maybe someone of other corps/alliances petitioned them and cause of the incident with Mine Osaurus earlier they prolly assume we are the ev0l ones...
Unless you show your corp ticker there I don't know your corp you are speaking about :)
2isk
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Nerfz
The Funhouse
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Posted - 2008.04.23 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 23/04/2008 20:24:15
Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 23/04/2008 20:21:28
Originally by: Nerfz
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
Originally by: Nerfz
alt post
pwym
What does that mean?
I am not mancerts alt if thats what you are saying
I'm saying posting here have rules and you should read them before your posts are deleted :)
I am pretty sure my alliance will endorse this anyway :
If you see any macroers blue, red, grey, petition him.
Our alliance have strict rules about low-sec pirating, smacktalk and other bad aspects of Eve we want to avoid. The bad reputation some of our opponents try to stick to us are unwelcomed at best and laughed at inside our alliance for sure...
Petition them, then.
The problem is framing players in this game is really easy. Post 2/3 logs, blame a player with a character who is a star in these forums and that's it. Our alliance is mostly french speaking (+/- 80%). Most of us are not vocal here. 75% of our players don't read this forums and thus we are under-represented and misknown by the community (and maybe CCP). They won't be able to defend themselves against an angry player or gm. I think that what Tenak wanted to avoid without certitude.
I'd say 50% of french speaking players can't speak a damn word in english. For them the local is like
uesfkufeskugceskuceskudeskudesukdevv ???
KUDGB !!!
1hescdskjtdbc 12 zekvkczek.
Petition macroers and see what happens...
Euhm them speaking french, what does that change to the topic? Btw the ppl we refer to do speak english.
"Petition macroers and see what happens..." > is that ment to be sarcastic?
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Oreh Anavrin
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.23 20:32:00 -
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I can't believe no one picked up on this yet (or maybe I missed it) but I am pretty damn sure that what "Don Korleone" (great name for the job, just...lol) meant was that the TCF leadership or whatever doesn't care what you think about the other residents. In other words, don't petition THEM about it, not don't petition CCP. Besides quite a few TCF members have already responded along the lines of "we dont care petition CCP" so I am pretty sure this is just a misunderstanding....
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mancert
The Funhouse
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Posted - 2008.04.23 20:33:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 23/04/2008 20:24:15
Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 23/04/2008 20:21:28
Originally by: Nerfz
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
Originally by: Nerfz
alt post
pwym
What does that mean?
I am not mancerts alt if thats what you are saying
I'm saying posting here have rules and you should read them before your posts are deleted :)
I am pretty sure my alliance will endorse this anyway :
If you see any macroers blue, red, grey, petition him.
Our alliance have strict rules about low-sec pirating, smacktalk and other bad aspects of Eve we want to avoid. The bad reputation some of our opponents try to stick to us are unwelcomed at best and laughed at inside our alliance for sure...
Petition them, then.
The problem is framing players in this game is really easy. Post 2/3 logs, blame a player with a character who is a star in these forums and that's it. Our alliance is mostly french speaking (+/- 80%). Most of us are not vocal here. 75% of our players don't read this forums and thus we are under-represented and misknown by the community (and maybe CCP). They won't be able to defend themselves against an angry player or gm. I think that what Tenak wanted to avoid without certitude.
I'd say 50% of french speaking players can't speak a damn word in english. For them the local is like
uesfkufeskugceskuceskudeskudesukdevv ???
KUDGB !!!
1hescdskjtdbc 12 zekvkczek.
Petition macroers and see what happens...
This post is not meant to get against that peroson xxxxxx
The intention is to bring forth the rules aplied to us when in FTZ. And that was the rule nr 1 from Don Korleone. That we where not allowed to petition. It was up to Tenak to decide who was petitioned or not.
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Nerfz
The Funhouse
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Posted - 2008.04.23 20:37:00 -
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The rules about not petitioning residents are official in alliance mail...
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Emrod
Legion Du Lys
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.23 20:48:00 -
[36]
I remember the day that the useless post in coad was epic.
COAD is for morons.......hey...wait a minute 0o !!! |
Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar
Aeden
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.04.23 20:51:00 -
[37]
Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 23/04/2008 20:53:51
Originally by: Nerfz
Euhm them speaking french, what does that change to the topic? Btw the ppl we refer to do speak english.
k, but did Tenak knew this ? (i mean by the time you argued with him)
Originally by: Nerfz
"Petition macroers and see what happens..." > is that ment to be sarcastic?
No, why do you think it is ?
2isk
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Emrod
Legion Du Lys
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.23 20:52:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
Originally by: Nerfz
Euhm them speaking french, what does that change to the topic? Btw the ppl we refer to do speak english.
k, but did Tenak knew this ?
Originally by: Nerfz
"Petition macroers and see what happens..." > is that ment to be sarcastic?
No, why do you think it is ?
hey wazzup Kweel ? 
COAD is for morons.......hey...wait a minute 0o !!! |
Nerfz
The Funhouse
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Posted - 2008.04.23 20:58:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 23/04/2008 20:53:51
Originally by: Nerfz
Euhm them speaking french, what does that change to the topic? Btw the ppl we refer to do speak english.
k, but did Tenak knew this ? (i mean by the time you argued with him)
Originally by: Nerfz
"Petition macroers and see what happens..." > is that ment to be sarcastic?
No, why do you think it is ?
If Tenak reads log (first post) then he should clearly see that XXXXX speaks english fluently
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar
Aeden
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.04.23 21:01:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Emrod
I remember the day that the useless post in coad was epic.
Of course it's useless. It's a "one player drama" posted on caod. There is a problem with a guy that think he saw a macroer, ask us what to do before reporting to ccp (which is also against the eula btw) and ask the question in drama forum if all TCF support maccroers.
How are our regretted gardian ang... err... caribous in GS btw ? :)
2isk
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N0R0X
Rage For Order
Nihil-Obstat
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Posted - 2008.04.23 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Nerfz
EPIC Stuff!
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Mytheos
The Funhouse
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Posted - 2008.04.23 21:12:00 -
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Normally I don't post on forums but seeing as this involves my corp and several members I thought I would, just to clarify a point - we were not "kicked" from FTZ, I removed our corp from the alliance after seeing the "new" rules posted by Don Korleone that included "1) No petitionning against an other resident for macroing".
In my opinion that rule and the way it is written, made by TCF, is effectively saying to corps "If you want to use our space then you aren't to petition people you think are breaking the EULA in it" this to me shows a lot about TCF's moral stance in the game. I didn't wish my corp to be associated with that kind of playstyle so I removed our corp from the alliance.
TCF pilots in this thread may be trying to make light of this, or claiming it's a misunderstanding due to languages, but the issue remains - FTZ official alliance rules that are created by TCF clearly stated "1) No petitionning against an other resident for macroing" - (it was up to tenak to decide who was to be petitioned according to don in a conversation one of our directors had with him about this issue).
Going by this rule, TCF in many peoples opinions I suspect are creating an environment in their space in which macro's effectively can't be petitioned by giving other residents of their space this rule.
Anyway I'm sure our corp members will continue to have fun in TCF systems in future, regardless of whether we're welcome there or not. 
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Nerfz
The Funhouse
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Posted - 2008.04.23 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn
Originally by: Emrod
I remember the day that the useless post in coad was epic.
Of course it's useless. It's a "one player drama" posted on caod. There is a problem with a guy that think he saw a macroer, ask us what to do before reporting to ccp (which is also against the eula btw) and ask the question in drama forum if all TCF support maccroers.
How are our regretted gardian ang... err... caribous in GS btw ? :)
We don't say all TCFmembers support macros but the rule thats been made doesnt leave much doubt about the leadership does it...
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Nerfz
The Funhouse
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Posted - 2008.04.23 21:27:00 -
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Edited by: Nerfz on 23/04/2008 21:27:21
Originally by: N0R0X
Originally by: Nerfz
EPIC Stuff!
You do know chat logs are useless and can be faked by a new born.
Sure logs can be faked... Well first of all its simply not my style to fake things like this and second we don't mind CCP taking server logs under a scope and compare them with the logs we posted... they won't even find a pixel not being the same in logs...
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Oreh Anavrin
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.23 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Mytheos
Normally I don't post on forums but seeing as this involves my corp and several members I thought I would, just to clarify a point - we were not "kicked" from FTZ, I removed our corp from the alliance after seeing the "new" rules posted by Don Korleone that included "1) No petitionning against an other resident for macroing".
In my opinion that rule and the way it is written, made by TCF, is effectively saying to corps "If you want to use our space then you aren't to petition people you think are breaking the EULA in it" this to me shows a lot about TCF's moral stance in the game. I didn't wish my corp to be associated with that kind of playstyle so I removed our corp from the alliance.
TCF pilots in this thread may be trying to make light of this, or claiming it's a misunderstanding due to languages, but the issue remains - FTZ official alliance rules that are created by TCF clearly stated "1) No petitionning against an other resident for macroing" - (it was up to tenak to decide who was to be petitioned according to don in a conversation one of our directors had with him about this issue).
Going by this rule, TCF in many peoples opinions I suspect are creating an environment in their space in which macro's effectively can't be petitioned by giving other residents of their space this rule.
Anyway I'm sure our corp members will continue to have fun in TCF systems in future, regardless of whether we're welcome there or not.
What are you "funhouse" people ********? Read my post this is so obvious, make this stupid thread go away.
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Helfix
Caldari
Rage For Order
Nihil-Obstat
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Posted - 2008.04.23 21:59:00 -
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Ohhh noes do I sense drama in our area??
Epic Epic I say :D.
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Darth Maule
modro
CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2008.04.23 22:04:00 -
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Other day I was scanning in a system that TCF says is their's in the curse region and there was a bunch of ravens on scanner. the names of those ships were farmer 1 , farmer 2 , farmer 3 etc.They also got an awful lot of firepower in that system to protect their farming opps.The reason I say farming opps is that is exactly what they doing in a system that got 40 belts in it.They have alot of caps and super caps in there to protect their opperation .But recently they havent been getting alot of farming done for some reason.
Darth Maule
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ZUAHNA
Amarr
The Funhouse
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Posted - 2008.04.23 22:17:00 -
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Same player 2 minutes before downtime
ZUAHNA > xxxxx you there?
xxxxx > unable to compute
xxxxx > *error*
ZUAHNA > xxxxx are you there?
xxxxx > unable to compute
ZUAHNA > xxxxx are you there?
xxxxx > $!!112 error
xxxxx > shutdown imminent
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Posted - 2008.04.23 23:22:00 -
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Please be aware that if you suspect a player of breaking the EULA or TOS then create a petition.
Bringing your issue to the forums serves absolutely no purpose.
Locked.
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EVE Online, CCP Games
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