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Trathen
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Posted - 2008.04.24 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Most systems are only 20-40 AU across. Having limited scan range would make things much more interesting.
ECCMs increase sensor strength; would does having stronger sensors being able to scan further not make sense? It sounds perfectly obvious to me.
I would think that sensor strength translates more roughly to "sensor integrity" rather than "sensor power" because it doesn't really make sense that Electronic Counter-Countermeasures would do anything but counter countermeasures. They could just as easily change the name of the mods though.
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Trathen
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Posted - 2008.04.24 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
But as I said above, it would provide a very good reason to fit ECCM. Both the other EW counter modules are useful in and of themselves; sensor boosters and tracking computers/enhancers are something people fit even if they're not expecting to be EW'd. ECCM isn't, and that's part of the reason that many people feel that ECM is overpowered.
Additionally, giving larger ships bigger scan range would be a (small) indirect nano-nerf.
Yes I will be the first to say that making a connection from the name does not necessarily mean its a good idea (such as people's wild RL parallels with insurance). I am still sitting on my hands in hi-sec until I reach that magic 5 mil SP mark so I won't pretend to know how ECCM works - but I did have to point out that as I saw it, the concept that ECCM has always and should be activated and kept ready only in response to ECM is rather intuitive.
Though if ECCM needs a boost, that's a new thread altogether.
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Trathen
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Posted - 2008.04.24 17:48:00 -
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Edited by: Trathen on 24/04/2008 17:49:17
Originally by: Malcanis
On a tangent to your tangent: there is no "magic 5M SP mark" (unless you're wanting to join a specific corp or alliance that sets this as a requirement). Stop sitting on your hands and start dying!
ECCM modules increase sensor strength by 80% (T1 basic) - 96% (T2), basically halving your chance of being ECM'd. That's all they do though. Sensor boosters improve locking range/speed, so they're the counter to sensor damps which do the exact opposite. But better range/lock speed is always useful anyway. Likewise Tracking Computers vs Targeting Disruptors.
Only halves? Yeah that doesn't sound like good ECCM anyway. I concur then, though now I just think it should work better. There should be no reason that replacing an ECM fitting with an ECCM fitting shouldn't nullify another for balance purposes.
Continue tangent/derail: Yeah like R.E.C.O.N. and most actively-recruiting small-gang corps, but yeah I'd be more suicidal if losing a head full of implants didn't conflict with that goal. |
Trathen
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Posted - 2008.04.25 03:55:00 -
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We might be taking it too far at this point. I think the task of replacing local with anything would be daunting enough, so some skeleton radar would be cool enough. I definitely think CCP could take a look at some sub sims to get some inspiration.
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