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Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.04.26 11:35:00 - [1] Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 26/04/2008 11:38:23 Okay everyone, no this is not some parody thread or anything. This is actually a reflection of about 3 hours of research and hard work... along with sweat, blood and tears to create the ultimate Iteron Mark III PVP device. Why not an Iteron Mark V, you ask? There are two very good reasons for this. Reason #1: Scan resolution on an Itty 5 SUCKS. If you're attacking/being attacked by drones (which are going to be your only possible demise against a barge or mining ship) you can't afford the 25 seconds it takes to lock each individual one. The Itty V possesses no bonuses to max locked targets and therefore it is a problem. You can get around it with a sensor booster.. but that's not going to stop miners from.. Reason #2: Intimidation. An Iteron Mark V is THE largest capacity hauler in the game, hands down. If an Itty V warps to your belt and you are mining, I'm pretty sure you'd pack your **** and leave. Anything that gets sucked into the vortex of the Itty V is gone forever. Okay so, now that we've got that out of the way, let's talk about the Iteron Mark III and why it's the best choice (of the Gallente industrials -- Non transport). Reason 1: Versatility. Only the Iteron Mark III and V have two highslots, which is needed for PVPing in an Iteron effectively. Reason 2: Speed. It moves a bit quicker than it's larger version and has amazingly quick warp times, moving you from belt to belt quickly. Reason 3: Stable capacitor options. Though industrials generally don't have amazing capacitors, they have a decent enough recharge time that you can activate a few modules and get your cap running stable. Plus, the Itty 3 has a very nice base armor that is actually better than it's Itty 4 counterpart. Reason 4: Lock times. Locking drones is going to be required during the heat of battle and even though the Itty 3 doesn't have the best scan res it can still manage to survive a pile of drones long enough to get them locked one at a time. Okay now that that's out of the way, let me reveal my setup to you. To date, this setup has taken down a Comorant, Retriever and a Hulk. [Iteron Mark III, PVP] 400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Passive Targeting Array I Fleeting Progressive Warp Scrambler I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Light Neutron Blaster II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge S Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I This little gem of a setup puts out roughly 35 DPS in standard mode, and 40 in overload. You WILL probably be overloading your gun during combat - as even though it seems a defenseless barge/exhumer can't help itself - you will be suprised when you have to deal with it's peak shield recharge. Overloading when you have the target down to about 40% shields really helps in getting over that hump. You'll start by activating the passive targeter against your target. Once you've got him locked down, steal from his wrecks or take his ore. When he locks you and begins shooting you'll be right there with him, zero delay. Next, that neut is necessary. Without that you won't be able to kill a target [efficiently]. Begin neuting the cap of the target right away, and keep him scrambled. If you're up against a Hulk that's trying to tank you, you'll zap his cap in about 20 cycles or less (2 minutes). While he's scrammed and being neuted to death, work on his drones. This setup can tank a rack of tech 2 Infiltrators no problem. If you come up against a rack of other drones you're going to need to pray quite a bit. If you find out the target is using Valks or other explosive drones, I'd recommend you swap out the Damage Control for an Explosive Hardener (N-Type is the best choice here for cap reasons).
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.04.26 11:36:00 - [2] That actually brings me to the ever-sensitive capacitor of this Itty. Let's take a look at the cap usage of these modules. It is crucial to realize that the cap is balanced. Warp Scram uses less than a Disrupt, and a web uses little cap as well. The Neutron blaster is the same at 0.6 cap per second and the Neut is the only thing that is abusing your cap at all. The Damage control uses virtually no cap whatsoever. Anyway, let's examine the numbers and I will show you how painstaking this was to get calibrated. Scram: -0.6 cap Web: -0.6 cap Blaster: -0.6 cap Neut: -5.6 cap ----------------- Total: -7.4 cap per second ====================== Itty 3 Peak: +7.5 cap per second. So there you have it. This setup is 100% stable. No Egress Port Maximizers, no CCCs, just a great passive tank and solid tackling capability. Adding a hybrid damage rig is not necessary, as this ship does just enough dps to break any active tank on any ship. If you come across a passive tanked mining ship, I'm going to laugh, then work on a fit that can break its tank. Anyway this is a lot of fun, and I have enjoyed the kills I have received so far. I'm thinking about getting a gang together and going out in hauler raids (they're fun and popular!) so perhaps you'll see some threads on other ships as well. Enjoy the carebear tears, and bon appetit!
arbalesttom Caldari Glauxian Brothers	Posted - 2008.04.26 12:44:00 - [3] First *Sig* Originally by: Cpt Branko That is a JoJo, a forum troll used by Amarr whiners. If real men fly amarr, what does a nbermensch fly then? ---> Gallente ^(>_<)^
Bronson Hughes	Posted - 2008.04.26 13:02:00 - [4] I've played around with a similar setup on a Badger II [Badger Mark II, Battle Badger] Light Neutron Blaster II Small Energy Neutralizer I Fleeting Progressive Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Passive Targeting Array I Cap Recharger II Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction x 2 Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Similar or better effective HP, higher DPS (I get 43 DPS with faction ammo before overheating), but it'll cost more too. Also cap stable, but just barely. I've also experimented with smartbomb fits to deal with miner's drones, but it never seems to work out as well. That and you're much more likely to get CONCORDed -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne
P'uck	Posted - 2008.04.26 13:12:00 - [5] imho if you go combat hauler, you have 2 major strenghts over other ships: a cargohold big enough to hold an nigh endless amount of cap charges and a medsrack full of ewar capabilities, along with the cpu to use it. thats why id pick a hauler with more meds and active tank it, maybe with dual SAR.
achoura	Posted - 2008.04.26 13:35:00 - [6] You may want to look into the itty v, yes teh scan res sucks but those slots make the difference. My corpmate frequently goes out tackling ravens in his You know the passive shield regen on the itty v can be brought down to 22 sec? *The EVE servers and their patches*
P'uck	Posted - 2008.04.26 13:48:00 - [7] Originally by: achoura You know the passive shield regen on the itty v can be brought down to 22 sec? iirc thats with flux coils, and pretty useless, you would probably get one-volleyed by a funny look. it was a nice idea, tho... cant wait to see real "feasible" flux coil tanks one day
Bronson Hughes	Posted - 2008.04.26 13:55:00 - [8] Edited by: Bronson Hughes on 26/04/2008 13:55:25 Originally by: P'uck a cargohold big enough to hold an nigh endless amount of cap charges and a medsrack full of ewar capabilities, along with the cpu to use it. If I were shooting anything other than mining barges, I would agree totally. The main threat from mining barges is drones and EWar isn't particularly effective against them, plus if you're stealing from cans you need as much cargo space free as possible. Against other small stuff, or if you're acting as a bait ship, cap boosters, an active tank, and either lots of buffer or lots of EWar are the way to go. EDIT: Typos -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne
P'uck	Posted - 2008.04.26 14:16:00 - [9] Originally by: Bronson Hughes if you're stealing from cans you need as much cargo space free as possible. if were stealing from cans why not just wcs the thing? i thought the main purpose was to get the juicy strip miners... oh and: webs and scrams count as ewar too
FT Diomedes Gallente Ductus Exemplo	Posted - 2008.04.26 14:22:00 - [10] This thread is part of the reason I love Eve. ------------ Improvize. Adapt. Overcome.
Captain Falcord Gallente Southern Cross Empire	Posted - 2008.04.26 14:27:00 - [11] that ship is real sex. Would a Laser do? I have laser skills but no blaster, and since it's cap stable, a bit of lazoring wouldn't do much damage would it? If so, which one/crystal would you suggest?
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.04.26 14:59:00 - [12] Added link to video in second post.
Raymond Sterns Utopian Research I.E.L. The ENTITY.	Posted - 2008.04.26 15:08:00 - [13] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Added link to video in second post. 404 not found, for me. _
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.04.26 15:12:00 - [14] Originally by: Raymond Sterns Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Added link to video in second post. 404 not found, for me. Fixed, sorry :3
P'uck	Posted - 2008.04.26 15:27:00 - [15] Edited by: P''uck on 26/04/2008 15:29:01 Originally by: Captain Falcord that ship is real sex. Would a Laser do? I have laser skills but no blaster, and since it's cap stable, a bit of lazoring wouldn't do much damage would it? If so, which one/crystal would you suggest? since the op stated the biggest problem, damagewise, is overcoming the shield peak recharge, i guess lasers could be a good choice. (im bold now and assume nobody mines in minnie afs/hacs/recons, but hey, you never know) especially hulks have some base resists that challenge your patience and sometimes luck when using blasters. id say you would just go for the highest damaging crystal you can get, since those fights tend to happen at rather close range. edit: and your damage output is pitiful at best, to begin with.
Bronson Hughes	Posted - 2008.04.26 16:06:00 - [16] Originally by: P'uck Originally by: Bronson Hughes if you're stealing from cans you need as much cargo space free as possible. if were stealing from cans why not just wcs the thing? i thought the main purpose was to get the juicy strip miners... oh and: webs and scrams count as ewar too I was after the juicy mining gear, the ore in the can was just a bonus. And I can't cash in on that bonus if my hold is full of cap charges. Okay yeah, webs count as EWar. B-P Lasers may actually be a good idea since their only tank is probably going to be their passive shield regen. I picked blasters because I have T2 blasters, but not lasers. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne
Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam	Posted - 2008.04.26 16:18:00 - [17] congrats on your 400th thread. ...
Vorga Gar	Posted - 2008.04.26 17:31:00 - [18] I once had a Quad Light Beam laser fitted on my Sigil, with some fitting room left for a tank and a little gank.
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2008.04.26 19:12:00 - [19] yea, but a medium pulse laser II is so much better >.<
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2008.04.26 19:25:00 - [20] The battle mammoth is clearly superior: Up to 53 dps in standard mode, rising to 61 when overheated Better scan res. than the Iteron Mark III Roughly equal effective HP Anyway, the setup: [Mammoth, Battle mammoth] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Warp Scrambler II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Passive Targeting Array I Medium Shield Extender II Medium Shield Extender II Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats
Sturmwolke School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.04.27 02:58:00 - [21] An alternative autocannon battle Mammoth : - Deals about the same damage as the Iteron III - 62% (max) shield heat resist to counter miner's Hobgoblin/Hammerheads or modify as needed - Deals explosive damage with Fusion for killing barge/exhumer. Hulk can omni tank and typically folks won't add Explosive resist, which means explosive is the best damage type to use. For a Covetor, start with EM and switch to EX for armor. The same principle applies with drones. Damage Control II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II 400mm Reinforced Rolled Tunsten Plate I Passive Targeting Array I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Warp Scrambler II Medium Shield Extender II Heat Dissipation Amplifier II 200mm Autocannon II (ammo varies) Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Mudrat	Posted - 2008.04.27 04:06:00 - [22] that hulk pilot deserved to lose it nobody should be in a hulk without decent shield tanking skills and 2m in drone skills if they have no fleet support
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.04.27 04:37:00 - [23] Wow, some nice discussion in this thread :) Yeah, the Mammoth is a pretty awesome industrial considering its abilities, however I can't fly one :P I am putting together a nice fleet though in my corp, and though most of us can't fly fantastic haulers this is what I put together (and these guys have fairly sub-par skills considering other fittings out there). This is all for gang combat, btw. My Iteron (switched out the passive targeter for a sensor booster) plus: [Iteron Mark II, ECM Support] Capacitor Power Relay I Capacitor Power Relay I Compulsive Multispectral ECM I Compulsive Multispectral ECM I Compulsive Multispectral ECM I Compulsive Multispectral ECM I Small Diminishing Power System Drain I Good ECM support. This player is sort of new so options were limited. [Sigil, Tracking Disruption] Damage Control II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II 400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Tracking Disruptor II, Tracking Speed Disruption Tracking Disruptor II, Tracking Speed Disruption Tracking Disruptor II, Optimal Range Disruption 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S Small Diminishing Power System Drain I Excellent tracking disruption, with the added benefit of more damage, and with an adjustable tank. This is all still experimental, but if we don't need these haulers tanked we can play around with the midslots a bit. [Mammoth, Lockbreaker] Local Power Plant Manager: Capacity Power Relay I Local Power Plant Manager: Capacity Power Relay I Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Low Frequency Sensor Suppressor I, Scan Resolution Dampening Low Frequency Sensor Suppressor I, Scan Resolution Dampening Low Frequency Sensor Suppressor I, Scan Resolution Dampening Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Dual 180mm Prototype I Automatic Cannon, Republic Fleet EMP M Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I Excellent for once a lock is broken via ECM, this just makes the target take even longer to lock one of us. Because of the dampeners, and the ECM working in harmony, we could theoretically lock down a target indefinitely. With the neutralizer on this ship as well, and nos on two other ship, we can steadily drain the target's capacitor until there's nothing left of them. This is a great team setup and we're about to go give it a try. DPS comes out to around 100, but with neuts and nos working together, we will slowly break any active tank out there. Wish us luck!
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2008.04.27 04:57:00 - [24] Edited by: Lance Fighter on 27/04/2008 05:01:45 Edited by: Lance Fighter on 27/04/2008 04:59:35 Id suggest replacing the sigil with a bestower, fitting it very similarly, but use scram/web and such in the mids. 4 mids allows for TD as well if you want, or cap booster (micro cap booster ftw) edit The bestower is actually rather cap stable without the booster, if you use 9km scram. could get 24k if you wanted to... or get 4 points at 9k edit2 it seems to be not cap stable to run t2 disruptors... named ones should work as long as you turn the passive targeter off. Not like it helps you during the fight anyhow.
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.04.27 05:06:00 - [25] Originally by: Lance Fighter Edited by: Lance Fighter on 27/04/2008 05:01:45 Edited by: Lance Fighter on 27/04/2008 04:59:35 Id suggest replacing the sigil with a bestower, fitting it very similarly, but use scram/web and such in the mids. 4 mids allows for TD as well if you want, or cap booster (micro cap booster ftw) edit The bestower is actually rather cap stable without the booster, if you use 9km scram. could get 24k if you wanted to... or get 4 points at 9k edit2 it seems to be not cap stable to run t2 disruptors... named ones should work as long as you turn the passive targeter off. Not like it helps you during the fight anyhow. He can't fly a Bestower. We're working with what we have.
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2008.04.27 05:11:00 - [26] gah noob. A bestower is literally the easyist indy to get in to.
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.04.27 05:17:00 - [27] Originally by: Lance Fighter gah noob. A bestower is literally the easyist indy to get in to. Oh lol, I didn't even realize they both required level 1 industrial :3 Well I'll have to look into this then ^_^
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2008.04.27 05:22:00 - [28] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Originally by: Lance Fighter gah noob. A bestower is literally the easyist indy to get in to. Oh lol, I didn't even realize they both required level 1 industrial :3 Well I'll have to look into this then ^_^ Yep The single best point about them (level 1 gives you 13k m3 with t2 expanders), and the single worst part of an amarr indy (level 5 doesnt give you that much more )
Euriti Gallente SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.04.27 09:09:00 - [29] Originally by: Mudrat that hulk pilot deserved to lose it nobody should be in a hulk without decent shield tanking skills and 2m in drone skills if they have no fleet support Indeed, I mean just sticking an inv. field and a Small shield booster on it outtanks a iteron 3 forever.
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.04.27 09:18:00 - [30] AMATURE. I've been killing ppl with haulers since before you were born (Eve wise that is, lol). Use a Viator. And even then, a Crane is possibly better, but open for debate. Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y I I

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