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Ethan Hunte TARDZ	Posted - 2008.04.28 15:16:00 - [61] wow 10 alliances in the failtrain and growing... this reminds of the original coalition to remove bob, except at the start of that "epic" war, bob had almost the same amount of alliances on their side as the coalition started with. how much more do you intend to cram into this little region? personally i hope bob forget MC, and go smash up goonswarm regions while they are away.
Academy CEO Minmatar The Academy.	Posted - 2008.04.28 15:23:00 - [62] Originally by: MineralOel Steuer wow i bet you are the one with this fit aren't you? bitter TRI ALT Why on earth would TRI be bitter? They're not the ones who have lost a Titan, 600 BS, 25 capitals, and about 20 large pos fighting over one dysprosium moon.
raspuiain Imperial Fleet	Posted - 2008.04.28 15:24:00 - [63] Edited by: raspuiain on 28/04/2008 15:25:43 Edited by: raspuiain on 28/04/2008 15:24:16 Originally by: Academy CEO Its an interesting thought. However, TriSurge can field something like a 200 man capital fleet and Tri have Sov 4 systems. They're not going anywhere, and Goons involvement won't change anything - the Northern Coaltion have already shown that numbers cannot win. The NC do ok in Euro time, its just the US that they can not feild enough, your right about the numbers, but it will free up more to play in TRI's home, few moon mining POs's here, some cyno jammers there ect. Originally by: Academy CEO The northern coalition, with massive numbers advantage, struggled against INSRG alone before TRI got involved, and had to resort to pos spam to get anywhere. Which failed as I believe TriSurge have blown up most of RZR's pos now. Again, agaisnt insurg NC seemed to be going ok, taking station systems working around the cyno jammers. They only Insurg started to remove the towers was with Tri when there massive cap fleet got involved. Originally by: Academy CEO At the end of the day you can only fit so many people in one system, so extra numbers for the northern coaltion won't help them. I agree, but any extra cap / US TZ players would be helpful to the NC and as above allow some forces to play in TRI's home. But yeh, extra base players wouldnt seem to be much use against the INSURG/TRI cap fleet (few days ago it was reported a fleet of 20 MS's) Originally by: Academy CEO I'm sure BoB will watch with interest though, we all know which side they support and BoB/TriSurge will be frankly unbeatable by anyone. Even the entire rest of eve combined. Am all for Insurg but I dont think they would make much of a diffrence, there skill is being a large alliance and a large cap fleet. Of the union you speak it would be BoB/TRI which would be the killer. Insurg would be top bob like goonfleet was to RA. Just my personal opinion
Academy CEO Minmatar The Academy.	Posted - 2008.04.28 15:31:00 - [64] Originally by: raspuiain Again, agaisnt insurg NC seemed to be going ok, taking station systems working around the cyno jammers. They only started to remove the large towers when TRI's capfleet got involved. I largely agree with your assessment. This would be the only point of contention in my eyes - the NC didn't make any progress against cynojammed systems. They took the non-cynojammed systems through POS spam but to be honest thats very much the easy part. I honestly didn't believe they would be able to kick INSRG from QCWA (which is cynojammed). And even without TRI's involvement I would still believe that.
MineralOel Steuer Amarr OP EC	Posted - 2008.04.28 15:32:00 - [65] Originally by: Academy CEO Originally by: MineralOel Steuer wow i bet you are the one with this fit aren't you? bitter TRI ALT Why on earth would TRI be bitter? They're not the ones who have lost a Titan, 600 BS, 25 capitals, and about 20 large pos fighting over one dysprosium moon. who cares about the failolition. But TRI whining about numbers is really funny cause they wanted this war. And srly when I have a member in my alliance that fit his carrier with a shild tank, armor tank and honour tank, I will podkill him until he delete his char. No wonder most PVP corps left TRI.
raspuiain Imperial Fleet	Posted - 2008.04.28 15:38:00 - [66] Edited by: raspuiain on 28/04/2008 15:44:22 Edited by: raspuiain on 28/04/2008 15:38:22 Originally by: Academy CEO Originally by: raspuiain Again, agaisnt insurg NC seemed to be going ok, taking station systems working around the cyno jammers. They only started to remove the large towers when TRI's capfleet got involved. I largely agree with your assessment. This would be the only point of contention in my eyes - the NC didn't make any progress against cynojammed systems. They took the non-cynojammed systems through POS spam but to be honest thats very much the easy part. I honestly didn't believe they would be able to kick INSRG from QCWA (which is cynojammed). And even without TRI's involvement I would still believe that. Yeh, they failed against the cyno system. Tbh I think any alliance would have failed against the defence Insurg set up. If you look at QY6 and most other cyno takedowns. It can only be done when the defenders are asleep. Otherwise get a 200man fleet 100 man cap fleet (which as an alliance of 2000+ shouldnt be too hard) top protect it, unless theres a node crash you havent really got a chance in hell. It would have been only a matter of time until the NC cought insurg off guard. As with any POS JAMMER war, its how it works.Wait untill the enemy is offguard /weird arse time of the day (NC would have a bonus at this /more numbers = more chance of a large group being on at an odd time). But NC messed up, got carried away with POS spamming and then lost a titan/moral, insurge got a boost from the titan kill + TRI cap fleet will make the catching while asleep alot harder. Again, this is really just my personal opinion in a jammer war. suppose its all retrospect
Ralara Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.28 15:57:00 - [67] Originally by: raspuiain Am all for Insurg but I dont think they would make much of a diffrence, there skill is being a large alliance and a large cap fleet. Of the union you speak it would be BoB/TRI which would be the killer. Insurg would be top bob like goonfleet was to RA. Just my personal opinion I don't know how GS fights or what their exact relationship is with RA, never really fought them, but Insurgency are very good fighters. They're dedicated, competent and organised. Tri respects them and we enjoy working with them. Same for ATF and Destiny, of course (but the poster was speaking of Insurg, not ATF and Destiny). We don't consider them "lol allies" or a "meat shield", which is what GS has been compared to on these forums, with RA. But agian, I don't know what RA and GS's relationship is exactly. -- Ralara / Ralarina "Tri's dead!" NO U
darth solo Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2008.04.28 15:58:00 - [68] All the alliances helping RZR should know this is all over a dys moon thats in our home system. they said they would look into moving it and the next day they had it upgraded to a deathstar. sry for breaking our forum rules but it needed to be said. d solo.
raspuiain Imperial Fleet	Posted - 2008.04.28 16:03:00 - [69] Originally by: Ralara Originally by: raspuiain Am all for Insurg but I dont think they would make much of a diffrence, there skill is being a large alliance and a large cap fleet. Of the union you speak it would be BoB/TRI which would be the killer. Insurg would be top bob like goonfleet was to RA. Just my personal opinion I don't know how GS fights or what their exact relationship is with RA, never really fought them, but Insurgency are very good fighters. They're dedicated, competent and organised. Tri respects them and we enjoy working with them. Same for ATF and Destiny, of course (but the poster was speaking of Insurg, not ATF and Destiny). We don't consider them "lol allies" or a "meat shield", which is what GS has been compared to on these forums, with RA. But agian, I don't know what RA and GS's relationship is exactly. yeh in no way am I attacking insurg or Tri. I believe the relation ship between RA / Goons was really (this will be WAY TO simplistic but...) RA had the very large and well managed cap fleet but lacked a large ground fleet, which is where goons came in (donÆt believe anything about the relationship on COAD, they were very close friends). I believe in the same way TRI are like RA, good at Nano gangs and large skilled cap fleets but lacking in support if they deployed there full cap fleeting against a large enemy. Insurg have a large conventional ground force. Meatsheild is a troll phrase, end of the day caps cant live without support so RA/GOON, TRI/INSURG. Its not an insult at all, itÆs a praise
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.04.28 16:03:00 - [70] God I wish we got these kinds of slugfests over single dyspro moons :/ Btw, hi darth. What's it like being a large alliance all of a sudden eh ? [center] Old blog
raspuiain Imperial Fleet	Posted - 2008.04.28 16:05:00 - [71] Originally by: darth solo All the alliances helping RZR should know this is all over a dys moon thats in our home system. they said they would look into moving it and the next day they had it upgraded to a deathstar. sry for breaking our forum rules but it needed to be said. d solo. again backyard to "exstended" from RzR pets while they were away on hols :D. look at the deathstar as a No. PS stop trying to flutter your eyelids, you are as much to blame for the war as RzR are.
Metal Dude Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.04.28 16:06:00 - [72] Originally by: darth solo All the alliances helping RZR should know this is all over a dys moon thats in our home system. they said they would look into moving it and the next day they had it upgraded to a deathstar. sry for breaking our forum rules but it needed to be said. d solo. Greed is good for war! Thank god. The truth will set you free
Red Wid0w Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.04.28 16:19:00 - [73] Edited by: Red Wid0w on 28/04/2008 16:21:38 Originally by: raspuiain Edited by: raspuiain on 28/04/2008 16:09:05 Edited by: raspuiain on 28/04/2008 16:08:06 Originally by: darth solo All the alliances helping RZR should know this is all over a dys moon thats in our home system. they said they would look into moving it and the next day they had it upgraded to a deathstar. sry for breaking our forum rules but it needed to be said. d solo. again backyard to "exstended" from RzR pets while they were away on hols :D. look at the deathstar as a No. PS stop trying to flutter your eyelids, you are as much to blame for the war as RzR are. but your self in their shoes. you come back from hols to find somone has build a house in your back yard and are claming your fishing pond saying its on there land. It wasnt before they took it :D How are things in the pet train? You are all just a meatshield for Rzr, they hold all the moons and you help protect them. Do Rzr pay for replacement ships for Majesta Empire/Stella Polar etc? They really should. Do you remember how much help you got from Rzr when INSRG started taking your space? I bet they charge you refine tax even now LOL. Maybe you can bend over a bit more for your overlords? Rzr and MM actually told INSRG that they were free to take that space (oops they forgot to mention certain moons), Rzr and MM hung you guys out to dry. Now they desperately need your help again so at the very least they could build you some new Drakes.
Idaeus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.04.28 16:24:00 - [74] Originally by: NATMav You failed to mention the Goon freighter that did a Torrinos > Saranen > Torrinos round trip through EC-P8R to sell long-limed roes that barely escaped us. That freighter was never in any real danger. This is the north we're talking about here, be serious.
raspuiain Imperial Fleet	Posted - 2008.04.28 16:29:00 - [75] Edited by: raspuiain on 28/04/2008 16:31:42 Originally by: Red Wid0w Edited by: Red Wid0w on 28/04/2008 16:21:38 Originally by: raspuiain Edited by: raspuiain on 28/04/2008 16:09:05 Edited by: raspuiain on 28/04/2008 16:08:06 Originally by: darth solo All the alliances helping RZR should know this is all over a dys moon thats in our home system. they said they would look into moving it and the next day they had it upgraded to a deathstar. sry for breaking our forum rules but it needed to be said. d solo. again backyard to "exstended" from RzR pets while they were away on hols :D. look at the deathstar as a No. PS stop trying to flutter your eyelids, you are as much to blame for the war as RzR are. but your self in their shoes. you come back from hols to find somone has build a house in your back yard and are claming your fishing pond saying its on there land. It wasnt before they took it :D How are things in the pet train? You are all just a meatshield for Rzr, they hold all the moons and you help protect them. Do Rzr pay for replacement ships for Majesta Empire/Stella Polar etc? They really should. Do you remember how much help you got from Rzr when INSRG started taking your space? I bet they charge you refine tax even now LOL. Maybe you can bend over a bit more for your overlords? Rzr and MM actually told INSRG that they were free to take that space (oops they forgot to mention certain moons), Rzr and MM hung you guys out to dry. Now they desperately need your help again so at the very least they could build you some new Drakes. A swing and a miss. and the point of your post was?
ISELLISELL GIVEMEMONEYYY	Posted - 2008.04.28 16:32:00 - [76] Originally by: Vile rat Originally by: NATMav You failed to mention the Goon freighter that did a Torrinos > Saranen > Torrinos round trip through EC-P8R to sell long-limed roes that barely escaped us. haha this is reminding me of a pretty funny thread. Firstname Lastnames long-limed roes tears thread, haha, I was trying to remember what that reminded me of. P.S. If we help MM we are pretty ghey. since they bailed on us, half the goons know MM tries to spin it to make it look like they came back because of insurgency, but we know thats a lie. Ill never help them, they bailed on us. Look forward to my nano phoon bumping MM+RZR caps out of POS's to get blown up by insrg+tri.
John Oldman Cold Lazarus Inc	Posted - 2008.04.28 16:34:00 - [77] Originally by: darth solo All the alliances helping RZR should know this is all over a dys moon thats in our home system. they said they would look into moving it and the next day they had it upgraded to a deathstar. sry for breaking our forum rules but it needed to be said. d solo. Stop the spin already. This is not about one moon. This is about insurgency growing too big for you to control. Still remember the days where you woved never to touch alliance politics :D But what can you expect with the quality and amount of corps you've welcomed into insurgency? You're just a figurehead now, controlled by pro-bob (or bob alts) and cheered by your old nemesis, bob. How do you feel working for them, doing their wishing?
Mr McDee Ancient Crew	Posted - 2008.04.28 16:40:00 - [78] Originally by: Red Wid0w Rzr and MM actually told INSRG that they were free to take that space (oops they forgot to mention certain moons), Rzr and MM hung you guys out to dry. Now they desperately need your help again so at the very least they could build you some new Drakes. This. raspuiain you better stop your clueless spins, mkay?
raspuiain Imperial Fleet	Posted - 2008.04.28 16:42:00 - [79] Edited by: raspuiain on 28/04/2008 16:42:00 Originally by: Mr McDee raspuiain you better stop your clueless spins, mkay? That from you = comedy classic
Metal Dude Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.04.28 16:44:00 - [80] Originally by: John Oldman ... You're just a figurehead now, controlled by pro-bob (or bob alts) and cheered by your old nemesis, bob. How do you feel working for them, doing their wishing? Ouch, that has to hurt. The truth will set you free
Karkazz	Posted - 2008.04.28 16:48:00 - [81] Originally by: Kalissa Edited by: Kalissa on 28/04/2008 13:01:25 We received intel a bit back that if Tri helped insurgency fight off Razor/MM that Goons would get involved. We got involved. On Friday we got intel that Goons were planning a move up on Monday. On Saturday there's a post about MM putting Goons blue again. You dont have to be a genius to see who's Goons target it, and we look forward to it Once again the Razor/MM have done what they do best, scream for help. Try and make up in numbers what you lack in ability. buhu, RZR/MM is playing this game all wrong. you can comfort yourself when you got no stations and sitting in jita that you got all that "skill".
ISELLISELL GIVEMEMONEYYY	Posted - 2008.04.28 16:50:00 - [82] Edited by: ISELLISELL GIVEMEMONEYYY on 28/04/2008 16:51:00 The pure guys getting the titan warp in has inspired me to rally other goons to help in the effort of bumping mm+rzr caps out of POS's to be killed if we do go north. Heck, While Im at it, Ill be selling POS PW's :)
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.28 16:50:00 - [83] Originally by: darth solo All the alliances helping RZR should know this is all over a dys moon thats in our home system. they said they would look into moving it and the next day they had it upgraded to a deathstar. Good luck dude. I feel fairly confident with our allies trust in us because we've worked on it over multiple years. They know we play straight and we've kept them in the loop since you just about moved up here. That goes for all our allies and is one of the main reasons they stick around I'd wager. What have you ever done for yours except drag them into a war that might prove very costly for them. What are their loyalties to you based on? --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
MentaFox StarHunt Fallout Project	Posted - 2008.04.28 16:56:00 - [84] This could get interesting.. ----------------------
Academy CEO Minmatar The Academy.	Posted - 2008.04.28 17:00:00 - [85] Edited by: Academy CEO on 28/04/2008 17:02:51 Originally by: Fred0 What have you ever done for yours except drag them into a war that might prove very costly for them. What are their loyalties to you based on? Are you being even remotely serious? You're a complete joke at the moment, half of your own alliances believe this and its no spin. You are the one who escalated this conflict, in an attempt to steamroll one alliance with your ridiculous uberblob. You failed. You lied to your own allies about the reasons for war. Hell, you even lied to your own alliance members. You know, as well as I do, that INSRG had no plans to take BKG or Tenal and were happily developing their hard won space. How are your allies counting their losses, all for a war you started for entirely selfish reasons? Half of them don't even know why they are fighting INSRG. Do you honestly believe people like Hydra and Pure have the stomach for a war of attrition over your dysprosium moon? Get a grip. This war has cost your allies a lot already. Its going to cost them a lot more, if they have the will to see it through, which frankly I doubt. Go spin on that.
Mr McDee Ancient Crew	Posted - 2008.04.28 17:01:00 - [86] Originally by: Fred0 What have you ever done for yours except drag them into a war that might prove very costly for them. What are their loyalties to you based on? Hrmph, for your allies this war is already proved to be costly. Way to go Rzr /golfclap
MAXSuicide Quam Singulari Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.28 17:22:00 - [87] Originally by: Metal Dude Originally by: John Oldman ... You're just a figurehead now, controlled by pro-bob (or bob alts) and cheered by your old nemesis, bob. How do you feel working for them, doing their wishing? Ouch, that has to hurt. The invisible hand of BoB guides this conflict rofl.
Negra Neve Neve Negra	Posted - 2008.04.28 17:27:00 - [88] Originally by: Academy CEO Edited by: Academy CEO on 28/04/2008 17:02:51 Originally by: Fred0 What have you ever done for yours except drag them into a war that might prove very costly for them. What are their loyalties to you based on? Are you being even remotely serious? You're a complete joke at the moment, half of your own alliances believe this and its no spin. You are the one who escalated this conflict, in an attempt to steamroll one alliance with your ridiculous uberblob. You failed. You lied to your own allies about the reasons for war. Hell, you even lied to your own alliance members. You know, as well as I do, that INSRG had no plans to take BKG or Tenal and were happily developing their hard won space. How are your allies counting their losses, all for a war you started for entirely selfish reasons? Half of them don't even know why they are fighting INSRG. Do you honestly believe people like Hydra and Pure have the stomach for a war of attrition over your dysprosium moon? Get a grip. This war has cost your allies a lot already. Its going to cost them a lot more, if they have the will to see it through, which frankly I doubt. Go spin on that. Are you even playing the same game as the rest of us? First, and to correct your ** poor attempt of a post before. NC took down 2 cynojammers with BS's vs Carriers/deathstar POS, get your facts straight. Insurgency never, let me repeat NEVER went on the offensive since the war began. Thats right i could go afk in BKG in an ibis for 10hours and nothing would happen to me. 16 hours of the day, NC completely dominated all of insurgency space. Our days were spent ing away station services including QCWA. Insurgency LOST D4R and EQI stations. They gained jack st. Insurgency was losing caps everyday, several times a day, and with no space to recoup those loses, the carriers showing to defend cynojammers kept getting smaller and smaller. The only time insurgency had some control, was 4 to 6 hours of the day during late UZ primetime, and that time was always spent... repping station services or saving some POS. Never to go on offensive. So please, come back to reality if you think NC wasnt completely obliterating insurgency before tri came in. And now in comes tri, things are different, and we actually have had hostiles in BKG siegeing. So yes, now its a real war, not a steamroll. So far its pretty much back and forward because as we all know taking out cynojammers with BS fleets when the other guy has a zillion carriers isnt easy. And btw, if goons come north, and i dont know if they will, it makes perfect sense. With the north pacified and the south secured theres nothing stopping everyone to look east and go say hi to the real problem. BOB. And one last reality check. Insurgency was growing and hungry for space. Only if you dont keep up with their sov claims can you not see that. Removing them was essential for all of the coalition. And lets not forget, Triumvirate was the one declaring war on the NC, not the otherway around. The reason why triumvirate did this? Any insight on that one?
MAXSuicide Quam Singulari Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.28 17:32:00 - [89] since the day before tri came in force ive been able to dock in eqi/d4r :/ when were they lost ?
Red Wid0w Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.04.28 17:40:00 - [90] Edited by: Red Wid0w on 28/04/2008 17:41:21 Originally by: Fred0 Originally by: darth solo All the alliances helping RZR should know this is all over a dys moon thats in our home system. they said they would look into moving it and the next day they had it upgraded to a deathstar. Good luck dude. I feel fairly confident with our allies trust in us because we've worked on it over multiple years. They know we play straight and we've kept them in the loop since you just about moved up here. That goes for all our allies and is one of the main reasons they stick around I'd wager. What have you ever done for yours except drag them into a war that might prove very costly for them. What are their loyalties to you based on? The difference would be Triumvirate and Insurgency like to fight. Naptrain like to mine, fly Drakes, and lose Titans.

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