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Chaosgabe TWC
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Posted - 2008.05.06 14:02:00 -
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Reading Stanislav Lem, Asimov, Heinlein. You can read almost everything the have written. Another thing i really enjoyed reading was the "Otherland" series by Neil Stevensen (sp?). A behemoth of 4 Books with like 600 pages each. Has some lengths, but overall very worth reading. And, my personal favourite although most of you wont know that: Perry Rhodan This is a german sf-series that started 1961. Every! week since then they publish a 60-80 pages thingy. So right now there are over 2300 issues, with a continous story that has been going on for more than 45 friggin years! (storyline spans something like 3-4k year) I have read most of them (1-1600 and 1950-2050) over the course of the last 5 year. Makes for a very good evening read: 1 issue per evening. ^^
TV/Movies: I¦m more a StarTrek guy, never been very fascinated by StarWars. Meh, tbh i dont like tv at all very much, so i wont say anything more on this toppic.
Games: Warhammer 40k anyone? Lovely game, very social and very good for training your style of argueing. ^^ I¦m quite surprised noone mentioned Master of Orion 2 yet! That one of the best sf-games of all times! Privater was ace, too. Other very good games were mentioned already as Homeworld, Freelancer and stuff.
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Shalia Ripper
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.05.06 14:20:00 -
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Star Wars isn't science fiction, neither is frakkin Star Trek. They are pure drek, do you grok?
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Kansha
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Posted - 2008.05.06 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Shalia Ripper Star Wars isn't science fiction, neither is frakkin Star Trek. They are pure drek, do you grok?
Hehe... I do grok. Read Stranger a good thirty five years ago, but I disagree in the case of Star Trek not being science fiction. It clearly is.
Moving on. . .
Over the years I've grown to like softer SF with characters that I emotionally connect with better than the harder Heinlein and the like I started with I mention Heinlein because I liked and like his stuff so much. I like many of what others have mentioned, don't know the others. The ones below coincidentally are my favorites from recent years and no one has mentioned them at all.
Memorable sf books:
Samuel R. Delany: Dhalgren, any of his shorts, Triton, Nova, etc. John Varley: Titan, Wizard, Demon, Mammoth, any of his shorts Ursula K. Le Guin: Four Ways to Forgiveness, other Hainish cycle books Thomas M. Disch: The Genocides
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Nerogk Shorn
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.05.06 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Chaosgabe TWC Reading Stanislav Lem, Asimov, Heinlein. You can read almost everything the have written. Another thing i really enjoyed reading was the "Otherland" series by Neil Stevensen (sp?). A behemoth of 4 Books with like 600 pages each. Has some lengths, but overall very worth reading. And, my personal favourite although most of you wont know that: Perry Rhodan This is a german sf-series that started 1961. Every! week since then they publish a 60-80 pages thingy. So right now there are over 2300 issues, with a continous story that has been going on for more than 45 friggin years! (storyline spans something like 3-4k year) I have read most of them (1-1600 and 1950-2050) over the course of the last 5 year. Makes for a very good evening read: 1 issue per evening. ^^
TV/Movies: I¦m more a StarTrek guy, never been very fascinated by StarWars. Meh, tbh i dont like tv at all very much, so i wont say anything more on this toppic.
Games: Warhammer 40k anyone? Lovely game, very social and very good for training your style of argueing. ^^ I¦m quite surprised noone mentioned Master of Orion 2 yet! That one of the best sf-games of all times! Privater was ace, too. Other very good games were mentioned already as Homeworld, Freelancer and stuff.
Oh yeah dude! Master of Orion 2 is bad ass, I completely forgot to mention that. Hey if you like that game and Star Trek you should check out the game Star Trek: Birth of the Federation. It's made by the same company, but with a Star Trek theme. It's EXTREMELY similar gameplay to MOO2, except that you can't research specific things, and you can't design your own ships. Other parts of the game MORE than make up for it. Colony management IMO is way cooler. There are a lot of different ways to conquer the galaxy besides just building a massive force, and they balance it quite well. All the 5 races are sooo different, but you can be good with any of them. BTW the five races are Federation, Klingons, Cardassians, Ferengi, and Romulans. There are a TON of minor races you can conquer/win over too. Also the turn based combat is in 3D, and there are sweet (or terrifying) random events like a borg cube too. |

Rolf Smith
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.05.07 08:46:00 -
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Edited by: Rolf Smith on 07/05/2008 08:54:37 Edited by: Rolf Smith on 07/05/2008 08:47:55 Edited by: Rolf Smith on 07/05/2008 08:47:37 Wow where to begin....
Classic Sci-fi. Anything written by:
Arthur C. Clarke Isaac Asimov (Robot books and Foundation Trilogy) Robert Heinlein (Got weird when he got older but original works still classic.) Larry Niven (Anything and everything) Frederik Pohl C.M. Kornbluth Harry Harrison (Deathworld Series, Stainless Steel Rat, Hammer and the Cross) Murray Leinster (Medship) John Wyndham (Day of the Triffids, The Chrysalids, The Midwich Cuckoos)
Newer Sci-fi
William Gibson (Read them all.) Peter F. Hamilton (Originals and Reality Dysfunction double trilogy) C.J. Cherryh (Amazing author. Read anything she writes in sci-fi or fantasy.) Fred Saberhagen (Berserkers) Timothy Zahn (Conqueror Series) Spider Robinson
Military Sci-fi
David Drake William C. Dietz S.M. Stirling Alan Cole and Chris Bunch (Sten Series) David Brin (The Postman)
The original movie based on Dune really sucked but the Sci-Fi channel mini-series was amazingly well done. BSG is well written and cast. Firefly should never have been cancelled. I'll post more or hit you up with some details later.
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Forum Warrior
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Posted - 2008.05.07 09:16:00 -
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Seconding Banks, Hamilton, Stephenson, Reynolds. I personally very much like Asher, The Skinner kicks ass. (I've read every novel by him except the latest Polity one - I'm too cheap for hardcover - and Hilldiggers.)
Adding some more with a "fresher" feel to them (compared to the "classics", not the above): Richard Morgan's Kovacs novels, while starting heavily cyberpunk influenced, veering towards military later. Found all 3 very fun. Black Man was ok too, if you're not American, I guess . Looking forward to his coming fantasy stuff. John Scalzi: Old Man's War and it's sequels Ghost Brigades / Last Colony were good, Starship Troopers-inspired military SF (don't reduce it to this, though, it explores some other themes) and his The Android's Dream was ******* funny satire (with a good bit of action/thriller). Mike Resnick's recent Starship series is a fun romp, too, basically military/adventure stuff, mostly more of a light read.
Also Lois McMaster Bujold's Vorkosigan series, David Weber's Honor Harrington, John Steakley's Armor. Sorry but I cba to write anything about those right now, but they're good 
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Raffi derWucherkater
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Posted - 2008.05.07 18:56:00 -
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Thanks Nerogk, ill give it a try! As it was created by Microprose, you could consider that abbandonware or was Microprose bought by someone?
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Chaosgabe TWC
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Posted - 2008.05.07 19:05:00 -
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Bloody alt . . .
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Kastar
Paragon Horizons THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 20:54:00 -
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Vernor Vinge for current SF. Look him up and you won't be disappointed -----------------------------------------------
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2008.05.09 00:56:00 -
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Yeah ... I've read so much Sci-Fi I don't remember half of it.
Most of the authors I liked have been mentioned.
As to some of the classics ... a lot of that is over blown.
Heinlein's best book was Starship Troopers and everything else came after that. He just seemed to get lost in some really weird themes. Time Enough For Love comes to mind ...
I read between 3 and 5 of Herbert's Dune books. Just never was won over by them.
Clarke ... Clarke was an egotistical ass. Same old thing. Humans are stupid. We're nothing, not even a flea in comparison to the rest of the Galaxy. I got sick of that after a while.
It's not like these guys were terrible or anything ... it's just that people talk about them like they were gods of literature or something and they're not that good. They aren't all that bad either ... just not all they're *****ed up to be.
Mostly, it's a matter taste - so there isn't some universal yard stick by which people can be measured.
The real issue is "Did you like the guy's stuff?"
I miss Asimov.
The thing that was great about the original Star Trek is that it was all new back then. A lot of the stuff they were doing wasn't so good by today's standards - but by the standards of it's day it was ground breaking stuff.
Star Wars is really Future Fantasy but if someone wanted to term Future Fantasy a Sub-Genre of Sci Fi that would be fine with me. I actually like Episode's I-III better than IV - VI though most people don't. I've seen the original 3 episodes so many times though that I'm just worn out on them.
Babylon 5 is the best Sci Fi TV show ever. Nothing else really even comes close.
Once I got past the first episode (which took me several years of not watching it again because of that episode) I liked Next Generation. I liked DS-9 OK but liked Cisco about as much as I liked Riker (management clones the both of them). Hated Voyager. Hated Janeway. Jeri "The Bodysuit" Ryan's 7 of 9 was the one saving grace on that show. Enterprise I wanted to like as I liked all the actors but the writers were terrible and I think the whole idea of a retro show was a mistake. They kept bringing in all this stuff from the other series that these guys weren't supposed to know about yet.
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Tek'a Rain
Gallente Collegium Mechanicae Holding
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Posted - 2008.05.09 02:31:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Stay away from John Ringo's books. I read them on a recommendation from here and they were **** poor.
Heresy.
Ringo can come off a bit, well, Difficult at time because a lot of it is Heavily influenced by a military fiction writing style. I mean, there can only be so many ripped up and leaking posleen corpses stinking up the place before Some people stop caring.. so the Aldendate/Posleen Wars series can drag in places, Especially if you are not a fan of the style.
Try the Looking Glass series. mmmm.. Zerg.. I mean, Dreeeen..

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ceyriot
Induseng Enterprises R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 04:40:00 -
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Edited by: ceyriot on 09/05/2008 04:40:54 Honestly, I liked Stargate SG1 for one episode. ONE.
I never liked Star Trek. I never liked Battlestar Galatica I never liked TV at all...especially when I can be playing eve.
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Elphy
Minmatar Warp badgers with guns
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Posted - 2008.05.09 11:12:00 -
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Greetings Citizens of Eve,
I am Hari Seldon. Using my science of Psychohistory I can see that the guy who wrote this stuff is the man and no you will not be getting any Gravatic ships with the instant jump recalc computers like from Foundations Edge.
That is all.
If someone could do a decent set of movies based on Foundation that didn't completely ruin the source material I would be happy. It has its critics as alot of the action is not described and just referenced but thats why I like it. Its doesn't need long drawn out descriptive sequences of battle. Issac sticks to the plot and provides a clever story showing that people with space ships and laser guns and this that and the other are still human and still have the same emotions that we do now, just the back drop is different.
Another one I reread recently was Starship Troopers. Ignore the film it took a few names and places and was a totally different film. More in common with Aliens than the original source text.
Going to have to dig some stuff out to read now... and rename a ship The Far Star *grumble*
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Wrayeth
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.05.09 12:29:00 -
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Edited by: Wrayeth on 09/05/2008 12:31:00 I'm surprised no one has mentioned Kevin J. Anderson's Saga of Seven Suns...
A few others that I haven't seen mentioned that should probably be on the list:
Charles Sheffield Andre Norton (truly old-school) Frederick Pohl - Bah, someone already mentioned him. Someone also already mentioned David Brin, whose Uplift War series was badass. -Wrayeth n00b Extraordinaire "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!" |

Khadur
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.09 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Brujo Loco Babylon 5
Even tho Battlestar Galactica is good we must NOT forget about Babylon 5 mkay? 
G'kar ftw
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Candice Bormardin
Caldari Jouvulen Enterprises Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.09 14:42:00 -
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Anyone see Dark Star? __ Catchwords ... are necessary for all those who are unable to think for themselves ... whenever a catchword is uttered, ... question: Is this true? Hans von Seeckt, Reichsheer CIC 1920-26 |

Kusha'an
Gallente Equinox Industrial Co.
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Posted - 2008.05.09 17:27:00 -
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Wow I can't believe nobody's mentioned some of the older classic stuff.
This is where I got my taste for Sci-fi:
Fantasy/Sci-fi
Edgar Rice Burroughs - John Carter of Mars series
1. A Princess of Mars 2. The Gods of Mars 3. The Warlord of Mars
(First three are one super-epic)
4. Thuvia, Maid of Mars 5. The Chessmen of Mars 6. The Mastermind of Mars 7. A Fighting Man of Mars 8. Swords of Mars 9. Synthetic Men of Mars 10. Llana of Gathol
The Venus Series
1. Pirates of Venus 2. Lost on Venus 3. Carson of Venus 4. Escape on Venus 5. Wizards of Venus
1950s Sci-fi
E. E. "Doc" Smith
The Lensman Series
1. Triplanetary 2. First Lensman 3. Galactic Patrol 4. Gray Lensman 5. Second Stage Lensman 6. Children of the Lens
The Skylark Series
1. The Skylark of Space 2. Skylark Three 3. Skylark of Valeron 4. Skylark DuQuesne
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kor anon
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.05.09 19:14:00 -
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Farscape - I loved it Some star trek episodes were good. As for books ive read a brin book, i also read 40k books -not of great quality just good pulp fiction
Im more into fantasy books to be honest, especially David Gemmell's books (may he rest in peace)
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Kristiana Lee
Caldari Flying Fox Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.09 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Candice Bormardin Anyone see Dark Star?
Oh yes, classic sci fi!
Bomb: "in the beginning there was darkness, and the darkness was without form, and void" Crew "whats he talking about?" Bomb: "And in addition to the darkness there was also me. And I moved upon the face of the darkness. And I saw that I was alone. Let there be light"
Also I think Silent Running is excellent.
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Nerogk Shorn
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.05.23 21:49:00 -
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wooo, it's summer, and now I can (kinda) relax. Going to hit some of these books/movies up! Thanks for posting them.
The Bulbasaur Wizard D-F-A-A-B-A-A-S
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kessah
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.05.23 22:32:00 -
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you spelt the wrong.
On teh interwebs, the is spelt teh 
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Bad Harlequin
Chiroptera Factor
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Posted - 2008.05.24 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Candice Bormardin Anyone see Dark Star?
Read it, actually. Stumbled on the film some 10 years later, didn't know it existed 
I see i left out, like an idiot, Joan D. Vinge - her "cat" series is a very human bottom-up corporate ruled world. "Psion," "Catspaw," and "Dreamfall," in order. Dreamfall finally brings us to the Hydrans (for which she borrows many Tibetan Buddhist themes and the occasional word).
tl;dr Joan D. Vinge "Cat" series: she's clearly a carebear but she knows how to kick ass. Read 'em.
Zleip > very, and this is more or less a post of humor that seriousness =)
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Ranger802004
The Contractors and Consultants Union
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Posted - 2008.05.24 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 01/05/2008 23:46:19
Originally by: Atomos Darksun Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. .
Sorry Battlestar galactica is a piece of crap. Both the new and the original series. I don't get how anyone could ever think it was good.
Also Stargate SG1 > all
I disagree...Stargate sucks...BSG owns
It's official Battlestar Galatica > Stargate SG-1
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spampan
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Posted - 2008.05.24 20:30:00 -
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philip k **** is a great author, but he was very prolific and wrote a good amount of fluff earlier on, so you may get turned off if you dont happen to get one of his good books, i'd also like to mention mark s. gestons "from out of the mouth of the dragon"; its a slog at first, but otherwise this is a really interesting little novel
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Brigitte Helm
Flying Fox Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.24 22:30:00 -
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Edited by: Brigitte Helm on 24/05/2008 22:31:51 Wonderful thread with many of my fav in here.
Everthing from Lensmen to Dune to Farscape to Firefly
All excellent Sci-Fi. Star Wars (the original) are classic Sci-Fi, the last 3 errors are just CGI crud, with no plot.
Star Trek is very hit and miss. Again original was defining era, but then it got too tied up with it own popularity.
Surprised no mention of Doctor Who. Like BSG reborn but retaining the original charm and at least as good or better then the original.
There is also the Gap series of Book. Very dark and sometimes hard to read. All about what is right and what is wrong. Read it sometimes
Post more when not left with a Eurovision hangover Hug a Carebear, Kill a pirate, squish a Rat, and tickle a dev.
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Arvald
The School 0f Fine Arts
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Posted - 2008.05.24 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 01/05/2008 23:46:19
Originally by: Atomos Darksun Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. .
Sorry Battlestar galactica is a piece of crap. Both the new and the original series. I don't get how anyone could ever think it was good.
Also Stargate SG1 > all
/signed a million billion times
Originally by: Liang Nuren
There are no dangerous ships, there are dangerous people. IIRC, you are one of them.
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Cikulisuy
Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2008.05.28 00:28:00 -
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armor by steakley, nearly anything by asimov/clark/heinlein, ender's game and speaker for the dead... and some other things that have already been mentioned  nub> you cant mine so you kill. |

Glarion Garnier
Solar Wind Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.05.28 07:18:00 -
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books - Larry Niven, (my reading is rather limited) comic books - The Metabarons
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Mangala Solaris
Ma'adim Logistics
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Posted - 2008.05.28 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Brujo Loco Babylon 5
Even tho Battlestar Galactica is good we must NOT forget about Babylon 5 mkay? 
QFT. B5 has a very special place in my heart. Its my personal fave Sci-Fi TV show. Reasonably believeable on the intrigue and politicing side too.
Book wise, I love the Yuzhan Vong series of Star Wars books, as well as full on hard Scifi like the Mars Trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson (In light of Phoenix I am rereading this whole trilogy again). -------
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Jin Shugo
HOMELESS. Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.05.28 15:36:00 -
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If you have not read The Foundation Trilogy stop what you are doing and run to a book store buy it and read it.
Then you are a sci-fi fan. :)
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