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Nerogk Shorn
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:47:00 -
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I've liked science fiction and fantasy since I was a little kid, and I'm always looking for more. This is an attempt at a thread to consolidate movies, television shows, books, short stories, other games, and even anime into one collective science fiction orgy. Obscure or stupidly popular, as long as you like it post it! Do you remember what initially made you like science fiction? I'd suggest warning people if you post big spoilers unless they are so riduculously well known already. *shrug*
Post a short description of why you like it so much. I'm up for a discussion!
Be civil Gents 
I'll start: I've always liked Star Wars. I still remember being scared ****less as a little kid when Luke goes into the cave on Dagobah and when on Bespin, the Cloud city, when the doors open to Darth Vader at the head of the table. I remember the rock in my stomache when Luke watches the Rebel force get trapped from the Death Star.
Halo: Fall of Reach is actually a really damn good book. Being a book on a video game I thought'd it be pretty terrible, but I was pleasantly surprised.
As for video games, i'd say that my two favorite are Homeworld and Freespace 2. Such fantastic storylines that really grip you and pull you into them.
Cowboy Bebop and Outlaw Star are futuristic space-related animes, that I really enjoy watching. Even if you have never watched anime before, I'd suggest giving these a go.
The Bulbasaur Wizard D-F-A-A-B-A-A-S
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Nerogk Shorn
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:47:00 -
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I've liked science fiction and fantasy since I was a little kid, and I'm always looking for more. This is an attempt at a thread to consolidate movies, television shows, books, short stories, other games, and even anime into one collective science fiction orgy. Obscure or stupidly popular, as long as you like it post it! Do you remember what initially made you like science fiction? I'd suggest warning people if you post big spoilers unless they are so riduculously well known already. *shrug*
Post a short description of why you like it so much. I'm up for a discussion!
Be civil Gents 
I'll start: I've always liked Star Wars. I still remember being scared ****less as a little kid when Luke goes into the cave on Dagobah and when on Bespin, the Cloud city, when the doors open to Darth Vader at the head of the table. I remember the rock in my stomache when Luke watches the Rebel force get trapped from the Death Star.
Halo: Fall of Reach is actually a really damn good book. Being a book on a video game I thought'd it be pretty terrible, but I was pleasantly surprised.
As for video games, i'd say that my two favorite are Homeworld and Freespace 2. Such fantastic storylines that really grip you and pull you into them.
Cowboy Bebop and Outlaw Star are futuristic space-related animes, that I really enjoy watching. Even if you have never watched anime before, I'd suggest giving these a go.
The Bulbasaur Wizard D-F-A-A-B-A-A-S
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Atomos Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:18:00 -
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Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica.
That's all that needs to be said.
But because I'm just not like that, I'm going on to say that Asimov and Clarke are must-reads. Seriously.
As for games, SWG was good until they nuked it. Twice. Then there's EVE, and nothing needs to be said for that. Sins of a Solar Empire is frakking (oops) awesome.
Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
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Wren Alterana
Minmatar The Baros Syndicate Kissaki Republic
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Atomos Darksun Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica.
That's all that needs to be said.
But because I'm just not like that, I'm going on to say that Asimov and Clarke are must-reads. Seriously.
As for games, SWG was good until they nuked it. Twice. Then there's EVE, and nothing needs to be said for that. Sins of a Solar Empire is frakking (oops) awesome.
agreed with Battlestar Galactica chant. however I'm not much a fan of clark or Asimov and their hard sci-fi style. and not oops. frak is now proper grammar. ____
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Norwest
Siege Warfare And Recon Missions
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:33:00 -
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Edited by: Norwest on 01/05/2008 22:35:50 Heh, gotta put my stamp on the Homeworld series as well.
As for Novels, of course a lot of teh classics (Hienlien, anyone) are going to be covered, but if someones looking for some well-written modern novelists: I'd reccomend checking out David Drake's RCN and Hammer's Slammer's series sevral of which can be read for free (and completely legally mind you) Here.
Or David Weber's Honor Harrington series, which likewise can be found and read Here.
Edit: for my poor linking skills. ***** Rule 27: 'Don't be afraid to be the first to resort to violence.' -The Seven Habits of Highly Effective Pirates [schlockmercenary.com] |

Or'Chan
Minmatar Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:58:00 -
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Robert L. Forward has written some excellent SF.
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.01 23:46:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 01/05/2008 23:46:19
Originally by: Atomos Darksun Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. .
Sorry Battlestar galactica is a piece of crap. Both the new and the original series. I don't get how anyone could ever think it was good.
Also Stargate SG1 > all _______________
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Nerogk Shorn
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.05.01 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: Atomos Darksun Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica.
That's all that needs to be said.
But because I'm just not like that, I'm going on to say that Asimov and Clarke are must-reads. Seriously.
As for games, SWG was good until they nuked it. Twice. Then there's EVE, and nothing needs to be said for that. Sins of a Solar Empire is frakking (oops) awesome.
Does Battlestar Galactica have two different series? I tried watching it a while back, but must have caught it in the middle of one, because nothing made sense and characters were already "developed."
The Bulbasaur Wizard D-F-A-A-B-A-A-S
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Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2008.05.02 00:31:00 -
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ok best ever? Alien.
the star wars movies was pretty good(original)
and ofcourse there is good movies that i dont remember right now aswell as movies you would laught at me for likeing...they are to cheesy...
i kinda liked the book Empire from the Ashes by David webber to. Playing minmatar is "like going down a flight of stairs in a office chair firing an Uzi". |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.05.02 01:15:00 -
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First sci-fi book I ever read and got me hooked on sci-fi for the rest of my life ?
I'm ashamed to say I have "lost" the book decades ago and never managed to find it again, can't remember the name for the life of me, I don't even recall who wrote it (I think it might have been some french author). It was a time-travel story, where the main character is rescued by a time-travelling animal (hipron, hyppron or something similar, tried googling the name of the fictional species but didn't manage to score a relevant hit), then proceeds to have plenty of weird experiences all across time, and ends up as a sort of master of time, creating the entire species of those animals, and setting up his own narrow escape that enabled him to become what he had become. I've read that book for the first time at a very young age, not quite sure wether I was 9 or 10 years old, and I remember having to read it again just to properly understand what was going on (due to the whole causality issue).
Of course, by today's standards, I guess the book would be regarded as a pretty trivial, run of the mill time-travel story, but still, the memory of that book (and the fact I haven't read it at all ever since) left a lasting impression. If any of you ever read it, I'd really love to find out the book's title or author, so I can find it again and read it, this time with an "adult mind"... heh.
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Nerogk Shorn
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.05.02 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T First sci-fi book I ever read and got me hooked on sci-fi for the rest of my life ?
I'm ashamed to say I have "lost" the book decades ago and never managed to find it again, can't remember the name for the life of me, I don't even recall who wrote it (I think it might have been some french author). It was a time-travel story, where the main character is rescued by a time-travelling animal (hipron, hyppron or something similar, tried googling the name of the fictional species but didn't manage to score a relevant hit), then proceeds to have plenty of weird experiences all across time, and ends up as a sort of master of time, creating the entire species of those animals, and setting up his own narrow escape that enabled him to become what he had become. I've read that book for the first time at a very young age, not quite sure wether I was 9 or 10 years old, and I remember having to read it again just to properly understand what was going on (due to the whole causality issue).
Of course, by today's standards, I guess the book would be regarded as a pretty trivial, run of the mill time-travel story, but still, the memory of that book (and the fact I haven't read it at all ever since) left a lasting impression. If any of you ever read it, I'd really love to find out the book's title or author, so I can find it again and read it, this time with an "adult mind"... heh.
I suggest taking a look at this wiki article. It may not be on there, but there was one that seemed plausible - "Paris Before Men"
Man reading a lot of that article made me realize just how many different theories there are about time travel. So many good books/movies/shows/games deal with it. It's all pretty sweet. |

Nerogk Shorn
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.05.02 03:04:00 -
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Anyone ever read the book "The Giver"? I read that as a kid (probably sometime between 3rd to 5th grade), and it was probably the first book I read that really made me think "outside the box." I wonder if it's actually a good book with good points, or if I just was an impressionable kid.
I also remember a TOTALLY awesome (cheesy) kid's show called.... uh... Space Cases (just googled it). Man, that and Might Max. Oh yeah...
Also other good kids shows: Transformers-Beast Wars, and Starship Troopers-Roughnecks |

Kyanzes
Amarr Utopian Research I.E.L. The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.05.02 06:56:00 -
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No one mentions goo' ol' L. Ron Hubbard? Battlefield Earth and friends rocked.  |

Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.05.02 09:02:00 -
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Iain M Banks.
End of discussion. |

Roxanna Kell
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.05.02 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake Iain M Banks.
End of discussion.
Warning though, if your english or comprehension skills are not high, dont buy it cause you will have to reread every page like, 10 times.
As of Battlestar gallactica, its mostly made for people who are not big fans of all the sci-fi stuff, like ion blasters, warp drive, and complex names and funny costumes with aliens there and there like star trek, But leans more towards normal people to tell them a story that could have beem written in a similar fashion at sea level. |

Brujo Loco
Amarr Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2008.05.02 09:42:00 -
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Babylon 5
Even tho Battlestar Galactica is good we must NOT forget about Babylon 5 mkay?  |

Rana Ash
Minmatar Aeon Trinity
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Posted - 2008.05.02 10:01:00 -
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Can't have a SciFi thread with out Star Trek, or Peter F Hamilton. Or Alastair Reynolds  |

Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.05.02 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Norwest I'd reccomend checking out David Drake's RCN and Hammer's Slammer's series - several of which can be read for free (and legally mind you) Here.
Or David Weber's Honor Harrington series, which likewise can be found and read Here.
Weber and Drake write ok and their books are fun and good for a relaxed read (aka at the beach) but they are not great. Sci-fi has a lot better to offer.
Of course the big names need mentioning:
Heinlein Clarke Asimov Herbert Bradbury
Note that not everyone may like the above. If you want pew pew with little that is thought provoking then stick to David Weber. If you want social commentary, an exploration of what it means to be human and deeply thought provoking stuff then the above guys are for you.
For current or semi-current authors I'd recommend
- Peter F. Hamilton (his books are a blast) - Dan Simmons (Hyperion series is jaw droppingly good) - Neal Stephenson (cyber punk stuff originally) - William Gibson (basically invented cyber punk...books are a lot of fun)
If you want to branch into fantasy (which is a subset of sci-fi) then I really, really, really recommend the impossibly good series by George R. R. Martin called A Song of Ice and Fire. Very adult in nature (not ****ographic or anything but just edgy as hell) and no elves and dwarves to muck things up.
Battlestar Galactica (new series) rocks! I frakking hate the Sci-Fi channel for canceling it (sure...cancel your most critically acclaimed show ever and make more insane crapola like Flash Gordon). 
Firefly also rocked in a big way.
Stay away from John Ringo's books. I read them on a recommendation from here and they were **** poor. |

Glassback
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.05.02 12:41:00 -
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Ulysses 31

G.
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Nerogk Shorn
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.05.02 15:26:00 -
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Yeah, okay, I'm going to have to mention Star Trek. It's totally sweet, and there is so much depth to it too. There were like 30 seasons of Star Trek.
I started with Voyager, which i really liked. Some people don't like it because Voyager is commanded by an "emotional woman." Not really but meh. They are pretty much the only humans you see in the show too.
Pretty much everyone loves The Next Generation. The characters and themes of the shows are very good. Unlike Voyager and DS9 and Enterprise, it doesn't really have a solid theme that runs throughout the entire series, more just from show to show.
Deep Space 9, I really enjoy this series of Star Trek as well. Again the characters and acting is quite good. Some don't like it because "they don't get off their station and explore," but I again don't think this is that true (if you watch the show you'd understand)
Never really watched the Original series. I've seen a couple episodes, and though they are corny for the most part, you can see how it started such a huge fan base.
Lastly Enterprise. *sigh* Enterprise. Some of the actors in that show seemed pretty narrow and not all that great, though there are for sure some good ones. The first season or two were pretty good and i was addicted to them. Sadly the writing got sooo bad that i literally couldn't watch it anymore. = ( I think the main problem of the show (besides the lack of ideas from the writers) was that it was too focused on the main storyline. Even in DS9 and Voyager which both had a very important-to-the-show storyline that ran throughout the series, they always didn't focus on it too much. There were always episodes where a particular character was focused on, or adventures that had no relevance to the main storyline occured. With Enterprise, i don't remember it ever deviating from the storyline for a second. It was almost a sci-fi soap. I wanted some variance and a break from the fecking drama. It didn't oblige.
There's my promotional rant for teh coolest Sci-Fi show(s) out there. = ) |

Sothis Antares
PBA Corporation
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Posted - 2008.05.02 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Nerogk Shorn much true stuff about star trek
You should try out the phase II fan series too, you'll love the episodes =) Beside that I like Babylon 5 and the first seasons of Star Gate (i stopped watching because of the lack of freetime and never started to watch again. note to myself, buy the dvd's :P.)
Considering the book sector, Stanislaw Lem is my favorite. To bad that all tries making movies out of his books are kinda crap, the stories even fully misinterpreted like "Solaris" with George Clooney imho. |

Benjix
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Posted - 2008.05.02 16:19:00 -
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I don't think anyone said it yes so I will, Dune, enough said. |

Isiskhan
Gnostic Misanthropy
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Posted - 2008.05.02 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: Isiskhan on 02/05/2008 16:44:30 I've enjoyed very much a lot of the authors mentioned already on this thread, but it needs more of the stranger side of sci-fi.
Such as the brilliant genius of Rudy Rucker, Phillip K. Dick... and The Illuminatus! Trilogy, a book that blew my mind and led me to read more on a whole bunch other subjects, from the non-fiction work of Robert Anton Wilson on perception and belief systems, to quantum physics and Zen.
I could talk for hours about all these, but today's a holiday here and I'm feeling lazy as hell, so that's that - but if anyone's remotely interested follow the linkies and find out more about them, you won't regret it. |

Crise
Minmatar Pelennor Swarm
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Posted - 2008.05.02 19:29:00 -
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I just finished finished Arthur C. Clarke and Stephen Baxter's "Time Odysey" series.
Sunstorm Times Eye Firstborn
Really good series I burned through all three books in a little over 3 weeks. I would compare them to the "Rama" series and Orson Scott Card's "Ender" books.
I'm not a fan of L Ron Hubbard in general but battlefield earth was great. |

Genghis Kitty
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Posted - 2008.05.02 20:29:00 -
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Edited by: Genghis Kitty on 02/05/2008 20:29:14 Though I like SF films, I rarely read SF books. In fact I rarely read any fiction.
Recently though, I fancied checking out some new authors so bought a large paperback book containing 20 short SF stories.
I've only read 5 so far and they were all very different and certainly made me think. When I've finished I'll probably move on to some of those authors' full length novels.
The book is The Mammoth Book Of Extreme Science Fiction
If you or anyone else reads it I'd love to discuss some of the stories. |

Nerogk Shorn
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.05.02 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sothis Antares
Originally by: Nerogk Shorn much true stuff about star trek
You should try out the phase II fan series too, you'll love the episodes =) Beside that I like Babylon 5 and the first seasons of Star Gate (i stopped watching because of the lack of freetime and never started to watch again. note to myself, buy the dvd's :P.)
Considering the book sector, Stanislaw Lem is my favorite. To bad that all tries making movies out of his books are kinda crap, the stories even fully misinterpreted like "Solaris" with George Clooney imho.
What is the phase II fan series?!?! 0_0 must-google-now
Originally by: Benjix I don't think anyone said it yes so I will, Dune, enough said.
Holy crap! Duh. Dune is an amazing book; one of my favorites.
Right now I'm reading (well since finals are coming up i don't have time to read) Stranger In a Strange Land. It's really good so far, though it has a lot of ups and downs in terms of excitment (all of it is good) which makes it kind of hard to read for long in one go. It's amazing, because it makes you think, well, in a non-human way. Books, where the author makes a non-human culture and at times take their perspective are truly amazing if they do it well. Another book like that is called Clan of the Cave Bear. It's about prehistoric times, when humans and neanderthals coexisted.
Keep em flowing guys, i'm definitely going to revisit this thread for sci-fi stuff i can check out during the summer.
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Sothis Antares
PBA Corporation
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Posted - 2008.05.02 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Nerogk Shorn
What is the phase II fan series?!?! 0_0 must-google-now
they changed the name of the series recently, so google might reference you to the phase II series which was planned originally by roddenberry after TOS. anyways, this is the stuff i mean:
http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/
i recommend you to watch at least the episodes with chekov and zulu, they're brilliant imho. |

Nerogk Shorn
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.05.06 00:58:00 -
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One of my friends suggested Roger Zelazny, and looking him up he sounds like he'd be a good author. Anyone heard of him? Am I really as sheltered as my friend thinks I am? I have one of his short stories in a sci-fi anthology, so i might check it out.
The Bulbasaur Wizard D-F-A-A-B-A-A-S
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Bad Harlequin
Minmatar Chiroptera Factor
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Posted - 2008.05.06 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Roxanna Kell
Originally by: Rodj Blake Iain M Banks.
End of discussion.
Warning though, if your english or comprehension skills are not high, dont buy it cause you will have to reread every page like, 10 times.
And you will be better off for it at the end.
Walter Jon Williams and Gibson are my two fav oldschool 'cyberpunk' writers: Hardwired by the former, Most Anything Really by the latter. I rather liked Mona Lisa Overdrive and All Tomorrow's Parties, especially.
Neil Stephenson: Cryptonomicon is the war'n'friggin'peace of cypherpunk. clear your calendar. Snow Crash is fun, and an easy read: Diamond Age is mindblowing.
Anything and everything by Iain M. Banks.
Neil Asher is making a noise, but i find his work kind of hit or miss. Gridlinked was interesting, but overall IMHO kind of meh. I may check out Brass Man to see what he does with it.
Read some real old school: y'know the Psi Cop "Al Bester" in Babylon 5? He's named after, well, Al Bester, writer of The Demolished Man, who invented psicops in the 50s. Also read The Stars My Destination. Dated and more than a little sexist, but the good bits are worth a look.
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Alrione
Amarr Black Lagoon Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.06 13:20:00 -
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Alastair Reynolds, nothing else needs to be added.  -------------------------------- :-O Sig got nerfed. Remaking >.< |

Chaosgabe TWC
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Posted - 2008.05.06 14:02:00 -
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Reading Stanislav Lem, Asimov, Heinlein. You can read almost everything the have written. Another thing i really enjoyed reading was the "Otherland" series by Neil Stevensen (sp?). A behemoth of 4 Books with like 600 pages each. Has some lengths, but overall very worth reading. And, my personal favourite although most of you wont know that: Perry Rhodan This is a german sf-series that started 1961. Every! week since then they publish a 60-80 pages thingy. So right now there are over 2300 issues, with a continous story that has been going on for more than 45 friggin years! (storyline spans something like 3-4k year) I have read most of them (1-1600 and 1950-2050) over the course of the last 5 year. Makes for a very good evening read: 1 issue per evening. ^^
TV/Movies: I¦m more a StarTrek guy, never been very fascinated by StarWars. Meh, tbh i dont like tv at all very much, so i wont say anything more on this toppic.
Games: Warhammer 40k anyone? Lovely game, very social and very good for training your style of argueing. ^^ I¦m quite surprised noone mentioned Master of Orion 2 yet! That one of the best sf-games of all times! Privater was ace, too. Other very good games were mentioned already as Homeworld, Freelancer and stuff.
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Shalia Ripper
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.05.06 14:20:00 -
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Star Wars isn't science fiction, neither is frakkin Star Trek. They are pure drek, do you grok?
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Kansha
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Posted - 2008.05.06 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Shalia Ripper Star Wars isn't science fiction, neither is frakkin Star Trek. They are pure drek, do you grok?
Hehe... I do grok. Read Stranger a good thirty five years ago, but I disagree in the case of Star Trek not being science fiction. It clearly is.
Moving on. . .
Over the years I've grown to like softer SF with characters that I emotionally connect with better than the harder Heinlein and the like I started with I mention Heinlein because I liked and like his stuff so much. I like many of what others have mentioned, don't know the others. The ones below coincidentally are my favorites from recent years and no one has mentioned them at all.
Memorable sf books:
Samuel R. Delany: Dhalgren, any of his shorts, Triton, Nova, etc. John Varley: Titan, Wizard, Demon, Mammoth, any of his shorts Ursula K. Le Guin: Four Ways to Forgiveness, other Hainish cycle books Thomas M. Disch: The Genocides
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Nerogk Shorn
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.05.06 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Chaosgabe TWC Reading Stanislav Lem, Asimov, Heinlein. You can read almost everything the have written. Another thing i really enjoyed reading was the "Otherland" series by Neil Stevensen (sp?). A behemoth of 4 Books with like 600 pages each. Has some lengths, but overall very worth reading. And, my personal favourite although most of you wont know that: Perry Rhodan This is a german sf-series that started 1961. Every! week since then they publish a 60-80 pages thingy. So right now there are over 2300 issues, with a continous story that has been going on for more than 45 friggin years! (storyline spans something like 3-4k year) I have read most of them (1-1600 and 1950-2050) over the course of the last 5 year. Makes for a very good evening read: 1 issue per evening. ^^
TV/Movies: I¦m more a StarTrek guy, never been very fascinated by StarWars. Meh, tbh i dont like tv at all very much, so i wont say anything more on this toppic.
Games: Warhammer 40k anyone? Lovely game, very social and very good for training your style of argueing. ^^ I¦m quite surprised noone mentioned Master of Orion 2 yet! That one of the best sf-games of all times! Privater was ace, too. Other very good games were mentioned already as Homeworld, Freelancer and stuff.
Oh yeah dude! Master of Orion 2 is bad ass, I completely forgot to mention that. Hey if you like that game and Star Trek you should check out the game Star Trek: Birth of the Federation. It's made by the same company, but with a Star Trek theme. It's EXTREMELY similar gameplay to MOO2, except that you can't research specific things, and you can't design your own ships. Other parts of the game MORE than make up for it. Colony management IMO is way cooler. There are a lot of different ways to conquer the galaxy besides just building a massive force, and they balance it quite well. All the 5 races are sooo different, but you can be good with any of them. BTW the five races are Federation, Klingons, Cardassians, Ferengi, and Romulans. There are a TON of minor races you can conquer/win over too. Also the turn based combat is in 3D, and there are sweet (or terrifying) random events like a borg cube too. |

Rolf Smith
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.05.07 08:46:00 -
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Edited by: Rolf Smith on 07/05/2008 08:54:37 Edited by: Rolf Smith on 07/05/2008 08:47:55 Edited by: Rolf Smith on 07/05/2008 08:47:37 Wow where to begin....
Classic Sci-fi. Anything written by:
Arthur C. Clarke Isaac Asimov (Robot books and Foundation Trilogy) Robert Heinlein (Got weird when he got older but original works still classic.) Larry Niven (Anything and everything) Frederik Pohl C.M. Kornbluth Harry Harrison (Deathworld Series, Stainless Steel Rat, Hammer and the Cross) Murray Leinster (Medship) John Wyndham (Day of the Triffids, The Chrysalids, The Midwich Cuckoos)
Newer Sci-fi
William Gibson (Read them all.) Peter F. Hamilton (Originals and Reality Dysfunction double trilogy) C.J. Cherryh (Amazing author. Read anything she writes in sci-fi or fantasy.) Fred Saberhagen (Berserkers) Timothy Zahn (Conqueror Series) Spider Robinson
Military Sci-fi
David Drake William C. Dietz S.M. Stirling Alan Cole and Chris Bunch (Sten Series) David Brin (The Postman)
The original movie based on Dune really sucked but the Sci-Fi channel mini-series was amazingly well done. BSG is well written and cast. Firefly should never have been cancelled. I'll post more or hit you up with some details later.
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Forum Warrior
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Posted - 2008.05.07 09:16:00 -
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Seconding Banks, Hamilton, Stephenson, Reynolds. I personally very much like Asher, The Skinner kicks ass. (I've read every novel by him except the latest Polity one - I'm too cheap for hardcover - and Hilldiggers.)
Adding some more with a "fresher" feel to them (compared to the "classics", not the above): Richard Morgan's Kovacs novels, while starting heavily cyberpunk influenced, veering towards military later. Found all 3 very fun. Black Man was ok too, if you're not American, I guess . Looking forward to his coming fantasy stuff. John Scalzi: Old Man's War and it's sequels Ghost Brigades / Last Colony were good, Starship Troopers-inspired military SF (don't reduce it to this, though, it explores some other themes) and his The Android's Dream was ******* funny satire (with a good bit of action/thriller). Mike Resnick's recent Starship series is a fun romp, too, basically military/adventure stuff, mostly more of a light read.
Also Lois McMaster Bujold's Vorkosigan series, David Weber's Honor Harrington, John Steakley's Armor. Sorry but I cba to write anything about those right now, but they're good 
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Raffi derWucherkater
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Posted - 2008.05.07 18:56:00 -
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Thanks Nerogk, ill give it a try! As it was created by Microprose, you could consider that abbandonware or was Microprose bought by someone?
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Chaosgabe TWC
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Posted - 2008.05.07 19:05:00 -
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Bloody alt . . .
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Kastar
Paragon Horizons THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.08 20:54:00 -
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Vernor Vinge for current SF. Look him up and you won't be disappointed -----------------------------------------------
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2008.05.09 00:56:00 -
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Yeah ... I've read so much Sci-Fi I don't remember half of it.
Most of the authors I liked have been mentioned.
As to some of the classics ... a lot of that is over blown.
Heinlein's best book was Starship Troopers and everything else came after that. He just seemed to get lost in some really weird themes. Time Enough For Love comes to mind ...
I read between 3 and 5 of Herbert's Dune books. Just never was won over by them.
Clarke ... Clarke was an egotistical ass. Same old thing. Humans are stupid. We're nothing, not even a flea in comparison to the rest of the Galaxy. I got sick of that after a while.
It's not like these guys were terrible or anything ... it's just that people talk about them like they were gods of literature or something and they're not that good. They aren't all that bad either ... just not all they're *****ed up to be.
Mostly, it's a matter taste - so there isn't some universal yard stick by which people can be measured.
The real issue is "Did you like the guy's stuff?"
I miss Asimov.
The thing that was great about the original Star Trek is that it was all new back then. A lot of the stuff they were doing wasn't so good by today's standards - but by the standards of it's day it was ground breaking stuff.
Star Wars is really Future Fantasy but if someone wanted to term Future Fantasy a Sub-Genre of Sci Fi that would be fine with me. I actually like Episode's I-III better than IV - VI though most people don't. I've seen the original 3 episodes so many times though that I'm just worn out on them.
Babylon 5 is the best Sci Fi TV show ever. Nothing else really even comes close.
Once I got past the first episode (which took me several years of not watching it again because of that episode) I liked Next Generation. I liked DS-9 OK but liked Cisco about as much as I liked Riker (management clones the both of them). Hated Voyager. Hated Janeway. Jeri "The Bodysuit" Ryan's 7 of 9 was the one saving grace on that show. Enterprise I wanted to like as I liked all the actors but the writers were terrible and I think the whole idea of a retro show was a mistake. They kept bringing in all this stuff from the other series that these guys weren't supposed to know about yet.
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Tek'a Rain
Gallente Collegium Mechanicae Holding
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Posted - 2008.05.09 02:31:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Stay away from John Ringo's books. I read them on a recommendation from here and they were **** poor.
Heresy.
Ringo can come off a bit, well, Difficult at time because a lot of it is Heavily influenced by a military fiction writing style. I mean, there can only be so many ripped up and leaking posleen corpses stinking up the place before Some people stop caring.. so the Aldendate/Posleen Wars series can drag in places, Especially if you are not a fan of the style.
Try the Looking Glass series. mmmm.. Zerg.. I mean, Dreeeen..

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ceyriot
Induseng Enterprises R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.09 04:40:00 -
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Edited by: ceyriot on 09/05/2008 04:40:54 Honestly, I liked Stargate SG1 for one episode. ONE.
I never liked Star Trek. I never liked Battlestar Galatica I never liked TV at all...especially when I can be playing eve.
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Elphy
Minmatar Warp badgers with guns
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Posted - 2008.05.09 11:12:00 -
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Greetings Citizens of Eve,
I am Hari Seldon. Using my science of Psychohistory I can see that the guy who wrote this stuff is the man and no you will not be getting any Gravatic ships with the instant jump recalc computers like from Foundations Edge.
That is all.
If someone could do a decent set of movies based on Foundation that didn't completely ruin the source material I would be happy. It has its critics as alot of the action is not described and just referenced but thats why I like it. Its doesn't need long drawn out descriptive sequences of battle. Issac sticks to the plot and provides a clever story showing that people with space ships and laser guns and this that and the other are still human and still have the same emotions that we do now, just the back drop is different.
Another one I reread recently was Starship Troopers. Ignore the film it took a few names and places and was a totally different film. More in common with Aliens than the original source text.
Going to have to dig some stuff out to read now... and rename a ship The Far Star *grumble*
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Wrayeth
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.05.09 12:29:00 -
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Edited by: Wrayeth on 09/05/2008 12:31:00 I'm surprised no one has mentioned Kevin J. Anderson's Saga of Seven Suns...
A few others that I haven't seen mentioned that should probably be on the list:
Charles Sheffield Andre Norton (truly old-school) Frederick Pohl - Bah, someone already mentioned him. Someone also already mentioned David Brin, whose Uplift War series was badass. -Wrayeth n00b Extraordinaire "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!" |

Khadur
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.09 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Brujo Loco Babylon 5
Even tho Battlestar Galactica is good we must NOT forget about Babylon 5 mkay? 
G'kar ftw
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Candice Bormardin
Caldari Jouvulen Enterprises Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.09 14:42:00 -
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Anyone see Dark Star? __ Catchwords ... are necessary for all those who are unable to think for themselves ... whenever a catchword is uttered, ... question: Is this true? Hans von Seeckt, Reichsheer CIC 1920-26 |

Kusha'an
Gallente Equinox Industrial Co.
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Posted - 2008.05.09 17:27:00 -
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Wow I can't believe nobody's mentioned some of the older classic stuff.
This is where I got my taste for Sci-fi:
Fantasy/Sci-fi
Edgar Rice Burroughs - John Carter of Mars series
1. A Princess of Mars 2. The Gods of Mars 3. The Warlord of Mars
(First three are one super-epic)
4. Thuvia, Maid of Mars 5. The Chessmen of Mars 6. The Mastermind of Mars 7. A Fighting Man of Mars 8. Swords of Mars 9. Synthetic Men of Mars 10. Llana of Gathol
The Venus Series
1. Pirates of Venus 2. Lost on Venus 3. Carson of Venus 4. Escape on Venus 5. Wizards of Venus
1950s Sci-fi
E. E. "Doc" Smith
The Lensman Series
1. Triplanetary 2. First Lensman 3. Galactic Patrol 4. Gray Lensman 5. Second Stage Lensman 6. Children of the Lens
The Skylark Series
1. The Skylark of Space 2. Skylark Three 3. Skylark of Valeron 4. Skylark DuQuesne
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kor anon
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.05.09 19:14:00 -
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Farscape - I loved it Some star trek episodes were good. As for books ive read a brin book, i also read 40k books -not of great quality just good pulp fiction
Im more into fantasy books to be honest, especially David Gemmell's books (may he rest in peace)
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Kristiana Lee
Caldari Flying Fox Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.09 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Candice Bormardin Anyone see Dark Star?
Oh yes, classic sci fi!
Bomb: "in the beginning there was darkness, and the darkness was without form, and void" Crew "whats he talking about?" Bomb: "And in addition to the darkness there was also me. And I moved upon the face of the darkness. And I saw that I was alone. Let there be light"
Also I think Silent Running is excellent.
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Nerogk Shorn
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.05.23 21:49:00 -
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wooo, it's summer, and now I can (kinda) relax. Going to hit some of these books/movies up! Thanks for posting them.
The Bulbasaur Wizard D-F-A-A-B-A-A-S
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kessah
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.05.23 22:32:00 -
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you spelt the wrong.
On teh interwebs, the is spelt teh 
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Bad Harlequin
Chiroptera Factor
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Posted - 2008.05.24 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Candice Bormardin Anyone see Dark Star?
Read it, actually. Stumbled on the film some 10 years later, didn't know it existed 
I see i left out, like an idiot, Joan D. Vinge - her "cat" series is a very human bottom-up corporate ruled world. "Psion," "Catspaw," and "Dreamfall," in order. Dreamfall finally brings us to the Hydrans (for which she borrows many Tibetan Buddhist themes and the occasional word).
tl;dr Joan D. Vinge "Cat" series: she's clearly a carebear but she knows how to kick ass. Read 'em.
Zleip > very, and this is more or less a post of humor that seriousness =)
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Ranger802004
The Contractors and Consultants Union
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Posted - 2008.05.24 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 01/05/2008 23:46:19
Originally by: Atomos Darksun Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. .
Sorry Battlestar galactica is a piece of crap. Both the new and the original series. I don't get how anyone could ever think it was good.
Also Stargate SG1 > all
I disagree...Stargate sucks...BSG owns
It's official Battlestar Galatica > Stargate SG-1
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spampan
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Posted - 2008.05.24 20:30:00 -
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philip k **** is a great author, but he was very prolific and wrote a good amount of fluff earlier on, so you may get turned off if you dont happen to get one of his good books, i'd also like to mention mark s. gestons "from out of the mouth of the dragon"; its a slog at first, but otherwise this is a really interesting little novel
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Brigitte Helm
Flying Fox Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.24 22:30:00 -
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Edited by: Brigitte Helm on 24/05/2008 22:31:51 Wonderful thread with many of my fav in here.
Everthing from Lensmen to Dune to Farscape to Firefly
All excellent Sci-Fi. Star Wars (the original) are classic Sci-Fi, the last 3 errors are just CGI crud, with no plot.
Star Trek is very hit and miss. Again original was defining era, but then it got too tied up with it own popularity.
Surprised no mention of Doctor Who. Like BSG reborn but retaining the original charm and at least as good or better then the original.
There is also the Gap series of Book. Very dark and sometimes hard to read. All about what is right and what is wrong. Read it sometimes
Post more when not left with a Eurovision hangover Hug a Carebear, Kill a pirate, squish a Rat, and tickle a dev.
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Arvald
The School 0f Fine Arts
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Posted - 2008.05.24 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 01/05/2008 23:46:19
Originally by: Atomos Darksun Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. Battlestar Galactica. .
Sorry Battlestar galactica is a piece of crap. Both the new and the original series. I don't get how anyone could ever think it was good.
Also Stargate SG1 > all
/signed a million billion times
Originally by: Liang Nuren
There are no dangerous ships, there are dangerous people. IIRC, you are one of them.
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Cikulisuy
Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2008.05.28 00:28:00 -
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armor by steakley, nearly anything by asimov/clark/heinlein, ender's game and speaker for the dead... and some other things that have already been mentioned  nub> you cant mine so you kill. |

Glarion Garnier
Solar Wind Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.05.28 07:18:00 -
[58]
books - Larry Niven, (my reading is rather limited) comic books - The Metabarons
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Mangala Solaris
Ma'adim Logistics
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Posted - 2008.05.28 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Brujo Loco Babylon 5
Even tho Battlestar Galactica is good we must NOT forget about Babylon 5 mkay? 
QFT. B5 has a very special place in my heart. Its my personal fave Sci-Fi TV show. Reasonably believeable on the intrigue and politicing side too.
Book wise, I love the Yuzhan Vong series of Star Wars books, as well as full on hard Scifi like the Mars Trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson (In light of Phoenix I am rereading this whole trilogy again). -------
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Jin Shugo
HOMELESS. Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.05.28 15:36:00 -
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If you have not read The Foundation Trilogy stop what you are doing and run to a book store buy it and read it.
Then you are a sci-fi fan. :)
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.05.28 18:08:00 -
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Thinking back on it halo1,2, and 3 had its moments...
I remember gasping when I saw mc come out of cryo stasis and think"Wow im going to be him???".
I remember when we crash landed on the planet and was overwhelmed with about 10 dropships and thinking omg theres to many!
I also remember when the flood came out, I must say that scared the crap out of me(I was 10 when it came out I believe).
I also remember when I was racing to the longsword and coming so close to death.
(2)
I remembered when I saw the scarab and just was awestruck, especially when I was told to board it.
I remember when I was told to kill a prophet and saw thousands of ships warp in overhead.
I also remember gravemind....Damn that freaked me out.
I also remember fighting tartuarus and was awe inspired at the amount of elites helping but ****ed at his seemingly invinsible state.
(3)
I remember when this Happened.
I remember fighting with 2 of my friends whilst all being in tanks .
I remember trying to escape a failing ring with a warthog whilst the floor below me fell.
*****SPOILER******
I also remember this.
And this.
It was an amazing story.
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Andrew shi'tra
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Posted - 2008.05.28 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Wrayeth Edited by: Wrayeth on 09/05/2008 12:31:00 I'm surprised no one has mentioned Kevin J. Anderson's Saga of Seven Suns...
Agreed on that one, Also, Robert Jordan's Wheel of time.
Frank Larry Niven Heinlein Asimov Clarke
Oh and Terry Brooks is excellent, Especially liked his Running with the demon series.
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Jastra
Stardream Research
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Posted - 2008.05.28 20:15:00 -
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Favourite SciFi game - toss up between EVE, Alpha Centauri, and of course Elite
Favourite Sci Fi book - man thats a toughy though I'm going to have to go with Iain M Banks Excession simply because I kepe re-reading it so it must be :)
Favourite Series - Meah, I liked ST:Voyager, I think the underlying story was more engaging than the other series. But I've also loved the flawed new BSG and B5 as well.
Favourite Film - used to be Blade Runner but not so sure now, I do think Aliens takes some beating as a good sci fi romp, the hard sci fi story in the background is quite interesting I think.
Favourite Sci-Fi Anime : Battle of the Planets - man I loved that growing up, I was totally hooked!
Favourite Sci-Fi Blog : i09
Favourite piece of tat hanging around the house related to Sci Fi : - my little SF3D mechs that were imported from Japan (I have a ton of them in a box somewhere since they came as a huge retail pack, hehe) - some of them are engaged in battle on a nearby bookshelf 
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Nachshon
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.05.28 21:56:00 -
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Books: Where do I start. I'll say that I'm a David Weber fan. I also love alternate history.
TV/Film Star Trek and Firefly/Serenity are my favs here. I didn't get into BG, though I wish I did. When fall semester starts, I'll find someone with the DVD set and watch it. Same with Stargate - I watched part of the movie, and was interested enough to want the series.
Games: EVE is the obvious one. I guess a lot of my favorite games can be called sci-fi: Dawn of War, Half-Life 2, Portal... I'm pretty much an exclusive PC gamer. ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship.
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Lafe
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.05.28 22:52:00 -
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I'm reading all the Culture novels by Iain M. Banks and so far I can really recommend them, best sci-fi I've read. I'm only at Use of Weapons at the moment, but I'm told that they just get better and better They are kind of difficult though for a person that doesn't have English as a native language (like me). Had to re-read a few pages every once in a while, but I guess I'm learning thanks to that. :)
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Jastra
Stardream Research
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Posted - 2008.05.29 06:30:00 -
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Originally by: Lafe I'm reading all the Culture novels by Iain M. Banks and so far I can really recommend them, best sci-fi I've read. I'm only at Use of Weapons at the moment, but I'm told that they just get better and better They are kind of difficult though for a person that doesn't have English as a native language (like me). Had to re-read a few pages every once in a while, but I guess I'm learning thanks to that. :)
hehe, I have to do that and it IS my native language - so gratz for getting through them in english!!
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Lafe
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.05.29 08:35:00 -
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Edited by: Lafe on 29/05/2008 08:36:02
Originally by: Jastra
Originally by: Lafe I'm reading all the Culture novels by Iain M. Banks and so far I can really recommend them, best sci-fi I've read. I'm only at Use of Weapons at the moment, but I'm told that they just get better and better They are kind of difficult though for a person that doesn't have English as a native language (like me). Had to re-read a few pages every once in a while, but I guess I'm learning thanks to that. :)
hehe, I have to do that and it IS my native language - so gratz for getting through them in english!!
Hehe well I feel a bit better about it now ;P The hardest one so far is the one I'm reading now though (Use of Weapons). There's plenty of chapters where the main character's childhood etc is explained and it's difficult to keep up there tbh, partly because of the difficult language Banks uses but also because it's really boring from time to time :P I mean I'm halfway through the book and basically nothing exciting has happened
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No'akai
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.05.29 09:07:00 -
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I'm suprised no one mentioned the greatest of them all, The Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy! Great book(s), rather crappy film.
Other niceties are Clockwork Orange, Dark Star (as mentioned), and I kinda liked The War of the Worlds (both book and the rather newly produced film). Of course the EVE universe, and I'm a big fan of WH40K
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