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DJ FunkyBacon
Eve Radio Corporation
32
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Posted - 2012.03.02 15:29:00 -
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At midnight tonight, Myself, Doc Nielsen and LarkinAlpha will be hosting a grand Faceoff between Current CSM Chair The Mittani and EN24's CSM hopeful Riverini.
You can listen in Live by going to http://eve-radio.com.
The Freebooted Blog has put together a special drinking game for the show tonight we suggest you check out, as well as a special debate theme beverage called The Mitterini (A tequila Martini) We suggest hitting the liquor store well in advance of the show before there is a shortage of ingredients.
Here is Eve Radio's Official Announcement for further information.
If anyone else is covering this on their website please let me know for some pimp love.
Lastly, because we're trying to be fair and balanced, if any of YOU have any specific topics or questions you would like broached, please post them below, or you can let us know on our Facebook Page
We will also be using the twitter tag #csm7faceoff for those of you keeping up on things there.
Looking forward to entertaining you all tonight. We'll try our best to keep it civil. |

Seleene
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
1301
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Posted - 2012.03.02 15:33:00 -
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I'll be tuning in. 
BTW, your avatar is almost as creepy as Trebor's.  Seleene's Sandbox - My Blog, where I say stuff. Follow Seleene on Twitter |

DJ Xaphod
Eve Radio Corporation
15
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Posted - 2012.03.02 15:41:00 -
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Looking forward to it Mr. Bacon.  EVE Radio, bringing music to the masses; http://eve-radio.com
Purple Sabbath, with Xaphod; Sunday 18:00 game time.-á Now including the Lemmings Leap |

Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance
393
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Posted - 2012.03.02 15:57:00 -
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Two bald men fighting over a comb
95% of the player base will not care or even know this is happening.
(nullsec) Problem? I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |
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CCP Manifest
C C P C C P Alliance
345

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Posted - 2012.03.02 16:04:00 -
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Seleene wrote:I'll be tuning in.  BTW, your avatar is almost as creepy as Trebor's. 
I was JUST thinking that. I'll try to make it as well.
======== o7 CCP Manifest | Public Relations and Social Media | @ccp_manifest |
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Conar Balcos
ZERO T0LERANCE RAZOR Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.03.02 16:14:00 -
[6] - Quote
I think i have to try the Drinking Game. |

Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
1836
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Posted - 2012.03.02 16:15:00 -
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Seleene wrote:I'll be tuning in.  BTW, your avatar is almost as creepy as Trebor's.  You're one to talk, missy. Re-Elect Trebor to the CSM - because I have not yet plumbed the depths of my inherent masochism!
My CSM Blog |

Janos Saal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
66
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Posted - 2012.03.02 16:16:00 -
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Pls se+Ĥor i have a questions for riverini:
Does his alliance enjoy being camped into their station for 20 hours a day by 15 goons? EVE is dead |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
440
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Posted - 2012.03.02 16:18:00 -
[9] - Quote
Karn Dulake wrote:95% of the player base will not care or even know this is happening. so? |

The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5542
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Posted - 2012.03.02 16:19:00 -
[10] - Quote
You need to add the following to the drinking game:
One drink every time someone makes a fat joke, ranging from "you're fat" to "Well, I'm sure you understand the gravity of the situation."
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |

DJ FunkyBacon
Eve Radio Corporation
32
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Posted - 2012.03.02 16:24:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Karn Dulake wrote:95% of the player base will not care or even know this is happening. so? Probably a good thing since our servers will probably start to melt if more than 15,000 people tune in at once.
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riverini
Reliables Inc Initiative Mercenaries
484
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Posted - 2012.03.02 16:29:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:You need to add the following to the drinking game:
One drink every time someone makes a fat joke, ranging from "you're fat" to "Well, I'm sure you understand the gravity of the situation."
am a teetotaler, so a blueball is in order.    
 RIVERINI / EVENEWS24 @evenews24 |

Nalha Saldana
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
142
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Posted - 2012.03.02 16:36:00 -
[13] - Quote
DJ FunkyBacon wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Karn Dulake wrote:95% of the player base will not care or even know this is happening. so? Probably a good thing since our servers will probably start to melt if more than 15,000 people tune in at once.
Prepare for it, we will be there  |

Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
791
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Posted - 2012.03.02 16:36:00 -
[14] - Quote
(you're the joke) |

Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
141
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Posted - 2012.03.02 16:42:00 -
[15] - Quote
Then drink tea, silly. This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.
Someday, this signature may save my life. |

Janos Saal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
67
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Posted - 2012.03.02 16:49:00 -
[16] - Quote
yeah i guess you got a lifetime's supply of alcohol while still in the womb EVE is dead |

Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
1978
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Posted - 2012.03.02 16:59:00 -
[17] - Quote
Pirates of New Eden, THIS IS YOUR NIGHT.
Drunken pilots will be failing hard in every region of space, take advantage of the fact that reaction times will be at a record low tonight. KILL EVERYTHING while you can! |

Aiifa
Pandora Sphere Narwhals Ate My Duck
25
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Posted - 2012.03.02 17:22:00 -
[18] - Quote
Sticky or are we going to rely on terrible smack for bumps |

Mechaet
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.02 17:32:00 -
[19] - Quote
I'm not quite sure their servers will handle the load.
I wonder what issues the candidates will weigh in on.
I'm hopeful that the listening public will be able to wrap their minds around the debate.
I look forward to the merriment and girth. Err, I mean mirth. |

Arduemont
Malevolent Intentions Ineluctable.
3
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Posted - 2012.03.02 18:02:00 -
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Sorry Riverini, but you need to give up this whole competing for chairman thing. Its just making you look stupid. Not that you need any help making yourself look stupid. You seem to be pretty good at that already, |

Triskian
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.03.02 18:21:00 -
[21] - Quote
No need to do the debate, Riverini has already admitted defeat. |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
201
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Posted - 2012.03.02 18:24:00 -
[22] - Quote
Aiifa wrote:Sticky or are we going to rely on terrible smack for bumps
I think there's all kinds of terrible posting we can rely on. |

Triskian
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.03.02 18:31:00 -
[23] - Quote
Like your's? |

DJWiggles
Eve Radio Corporation
10
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Posted - 2012.03.02 18:42:00 -
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Tonight I will be at the hands of our Twitter account and our Facebook page, making sure that everything goes smoothly you can interact by using the #csm7faceoff hashtag on Twitter or posting on our facebook wall.
Remember this kicks off from 00:00 GMT tonight (19:00/18:00 Central) make sure you tune in at www.eve-radio.com or if you can not the rewind of the show will be available after the show finishes for 7 days |

Kuro5hin420
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
5
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Posted - 2012.03.02 19:01:00 -
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This question is for both candidates:
Recently changes have been proposed to NPC 0.0 regarding stations, their ability to be shot and re-enforced, and a pilots ability to dock after shooting rats of the local faction. As a goon I expect mittens to do anything he possibly can to stop the homeland of syndicate from being raped, but the goons fondness of shooting structures makes me reluctant to place my faith in him. I know absolutely nothing riverini and I don't care about EVE enough to spend time looking him up rather than shooting blues. What does each candidate plan to do to stop this whole sale butchery of NPC 0.0, specifically syndicate: ancestral home to the goons and home to the only named (and possibly most famous) system in Syndicate, the luscious Poitot?
More information about poitot can be found at http://www.poitot.com
P.s. 420shootblueserryday |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
210
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Posted - 2012.03.02 19:39:00 -
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Janos Saal wrote:Pls se+Ĥor i have a questions for riverini:
Does his alliance enjoy being camped into their station for 20 hours a day by 15 goons? We did this? Where? When?
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Janos Saal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
76
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Posted - 2012.03.02 19:55:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Janos Saal wrote:Pls se+Ĥor i have a questions for riverini:
Does his alliance enjoy being camped into their station for 20 hours a day by 15 goons? We did this? Where? When? Yes. Venal. Today, tomorrow and for the past three weeks. Blackops4lyfe EVE is dead |

Katrina Bekers
Rim Collection RC Test Alliance Please Ignore
60
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Posted - 2012.03.02 20:12:00 -
[28] - Quote
Mechaet wrote:I wonder what issues the candidates will weigh in on. Your is the first drink!
Prosit!
(I see what you did there!) << THE RABBLE BRIGADE >> |

Franklin D Roosevelt
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
80
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Posted - 2012.03.02 20:12:00 -
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Umm why would people have debates about this crappy game. Mittani you are kind of turning into a publord. You should take a step back and remember your roots. |

Delici Feelgood
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.03.02 20:58:00 -
[30] - Quote
Question to pose:
What kind of importance do the candidates place in the Assembly hall forum and as such do they see it as a useful mechanism for player opinion. |

Franklin D Roosevelt
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
81
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Posted - 2012.03.02 20:59:00 -
[31] - Quote
You guys should televise some debates too so you can feel more important about being "leaders" in a space ship game. I am the CEO of Fake Corp.
(of course it wouldn't be on real television but maybe livestream or something. You could probably put it on real TV in Iceland though because I am pretty sure this awful game is 14% of GDP there.) |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
210
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Posted - 2012.03.02 21:06:00 -
[32] - Quote
Janos Saal wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Janos Saal wrote:Pls se+Ĥor i have a questions for riverini: Does his alliance enjoy being camped into their station for 20 hours a day by 15 goons? We did this? Where? When? Yes. Venal. Today, tomorrow and for the past three weeks. Blackops4lyfe Awesome! Go blackops!
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Franklin D Roosevelt
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
81
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Posted - 2012.03.02 21:07:00 -
[33] - Quote
Has this happened yet? |

DJWiggles
Eve Radio Corporation
10
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Posted - 2012.03.02 21:12:00 -
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Franklin D Roosevelt wrote:Has this happened yet? Nope this happens in 2 hours 45 mins GET READY TO DRINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |

Dusty Meg
Redbull Air Race Inc
18
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Posted - 2012.03.02 21:13:00 -
[35] - Quote
Franklin D Roosevelt wrote:Has this happened yet?
Tonight 00.00 eve time |

Franklin D Roosevelt
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
81
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Posted - 2012.03.02 21:13:00 -
[36] - Quote
http://tnt.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12614185 |

Delici Feelgood
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.03.02 22:06:00 -
[37] - Quote
Arduemont wrote:Sorry Riverini, but you need to give up this whole competing for chairman thing. Its just making you look stupid. Not that you need any help making yourself look stupid. You seem to be pretty good at that already,
Are you suggesting that the Mittani will only do a "debate off" with weak candidates then?
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2283
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Posted - 2012.03.02 22:11:00 -
[38] - Quote
Delici Feelgood wrote:Arduemont wrote:Sorry Riverini, but you need to give up this whole competing for chairman thing. Its just making you look stupid. Not that you need any help making yourself look stupid. You seem to be pretty good at that already, Are you suggesting that the Mittani will only do a "debate off" with weak candidates then?
post with your main coward "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Delici Feelgood
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.03.02 22:19:00 -
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Andski wrote:Delici Feelgood wrote:Arduemont wrote:Sorry Riverini, but you need to give up this whole competing for chairman thing. Its just making you look stupid. Not that you need any help making yourself look stupid. You seem to be pretty good at that already, Are you suggesting that the Mittani will only do a "debate off" with weak candidates then? post with your main coward
Oh Andski i dont know if you could lick the Mittani's boots any harder.
(Don't remove the label from the bottom that instructs how to pour water out, otherwise he'll never be able to do it should it rain)
 |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
441
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Posted - 2012.03.02 22:19:00 -
[40] - Quote
no way i'm missing this |

Mitauchi
NOMAD. RISE of LEGION
6
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Posted - 2012.03.02 22:29:00 -
[41] - Quote
I would like to know both candidates position on the coming of Dust 514.
How do they see it impacting the Eve Universe? Should it play a strong role in Sov? As a Representative of the CSM will they also represent the interest of Dust players just as they would Eve pilots? |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2284
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Posted - 2012.03.02 23:26:00 -
[42] - Quote
Delici Feelgood wrote:Andski wrote:Delici Feelgood wrote:Arduemont wrote:Sorry Riverini, but you need to give up this whole competing for chairman thing. Its just making you look stupid. Not that you need any help making yourself look stupid. You seem to be pretty good at that already, Are you suggesting that the Mittani will only do a "debate off" with weak candidates then? post with your main coward Oh Andski i dont know if you could lick the Mittani's boots any harder. (Don't remove the label from the bottom that instructs how to pour water out, otherwise he'll never be able to do it by himself should it rain. Do you chew his food as well as take bullets for him also?) 
oh look a nobody is trying to talk down to someone better than him "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Delici Feelgood
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.03.02 23:36:00 -
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Andski wrote:Delici Feelgood wrote:Andski wrote:Delici Feelgood wrote:Arduemont wrote:Sorry Riverini, but you need to give up this whole competing for chairman thing. Its just making you look stupid. Not that you need any help making yourself look stupid. You seem to be pretty good at that already, Are you suggesting that the Mittani will only do a "debate off" with weak candidates then? post with your main coward Oh Andski i dont know if you could lick the Mittani's boots any harder. (Don't remove the label from the bottom that instructs how to pour water out, otherwise he'll never be able to do it by himself should it rain. Do you chew his food as well as take bullets for him also?)  oh look a nobody is trying to talk down to someone better than him
Oh look the Goon thinks he is deflecting problems, and yet fails to see that by answering for someone else he is in fact contradicting his own argument and the point made in the first place. Not that this suprises me. Or the lack of originality in the pointless comments you continually make about anonymity.
Also CSM Chairman hide behind anonymous minutes much? |

DJWiggles
Eve Radio Corporation
10
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Posted - 2012.03.02 23:43:00 -
[44] - Quote
15 mins to go ... do you have your popcorn???? |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2284
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Posted - 2012.03.02 23:59:00 -
[45] - Quote
Delici Feelgood wrote:Oh look the Goon thinks he is deflecting problems, and yet fails to see that by answering for someone else he is in fact contradicting his own argument. Not that this suprises me. Or the lack of originality in the pointless comments you continually make about anonymity.
Also CSM Chairman hide behind anonymous minutes much?
you're p delusional if you think anyone listens to forum alts that end up biomassed within a month "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
397
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:06:00 -
[46] - Quote
Logged in to laugh, heard song about ****. http://blog.beyondreality.se/Incursion-hose Remove all incursions from hisec |

Delici Feelgood
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:10:00 -
[47] - Quote
Andski wrote:Delici Feelgood wrote:Oh look the Goon thinks he is deflecting problems, and yet fails to see that by answering for someone else he is in fact contradicting his own argument. Not that this suprises me. Or the lack of originality in the pointless comments you continually make about anonymity.
Also CSM Chairman hide behind anonymous minutes much? you're p delusional if you think anyone listens to forum alts that end up biomassed within a month
Well you obviously seem to be. roflysst.
Anyhow, despite your lack of creativity, poor intellectual capabilities showing an inability actually debating a point due to simply wanting to avoid the issue. But this seems to be the trend in some alliance posting. But feel free to simply dismiss anyone's comment you dislike of course due to the lack of qualities and skills to address points.
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Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
688
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:12:00 -
[48] - Quote
WHY IS YOUR MUSIC ****?
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |

Tyranneous
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
23
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:13:00 -
[49] - Quote
DOVIBUS GO BEEP BEEP!
Ohwait.... |

Midge Mo'yb
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
92
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:13:00 -
[50] - Quote
Why is your music so bad? |

Syndic Thrass
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
102
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:13:00 -
[51] - Quote
Why is your music so freaking terrible
Reguards, Iskies-mommies-toonies-corpies-goonies 0707 m8m8m8 |

Regrind
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:13:00 -
[52] - Quote
Krios Ahzek wrote:WHY IS YOUR MUSIC ****? Quite literally the least cohesive pile of ***** ever. |

Death2all Supercaps
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:13:00 -
[53] - Quote
Is riverini trolling? |

Midge Mo'yb
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
92
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:13:00 -
[54] - Quote
Hai~~~~ |

Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
688
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:15:00 -
[55] - Quote
The Missani for CSM7
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |

Vladimir Antlerkov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:15:00 -
[56] - Quote
Hi.
Yes. |

M1k3y Koontz
Taxes Suck Inc.
10
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:15:00 -
[57] - Quote
The goon spam in game chat... just... the spam... o.o
Question for the candidates: What do you think of the numerous proposals to change local chat to some form of delayed system. |

Death2all Supercaps
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:15:00 -
[58] - Quote
riverini has to be trolling O_O |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
441
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:15:00 -
[59] - Quote
damn u workplace machine |

Maycie
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:16:00 -
[60] - Quote
This question is for "THE MISSANI" can you please teach Riverini proper english |

Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
688
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:17:00 -
[61] - Quote
Is this actually Riverini?
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |

Death2all Supercaps
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:18:00 -
[62] - Quote
How will the CSM chairman Rererererereepresent Faction warfare? |

Aryndel Vyst
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
263
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:19:00 -
[63] - Quote
Riverini - HOW WILL YOU REACH DEES KEEDS? |

Emmerik
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:19:00 -
[64] - Quote
you can NOT be serious about this guy running for CSM |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
441
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 00:20:00 -
[65] - Quote
lol this is not disappointing |

M1k3y Koontz
Taxes Suck Inc.
10
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:31:00 -
[66] - Quote
Maycie wrote:This question is for "THE MISSANI" can you please teach Riverini proper english
I'll teach him english if you teach the goons how to be quiet long enough for some half decent trolling to occur :) |

Emmerik
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:36:00 -
[67] - Quote
http://psykzz.co.uk/_eve_meme_data.php?char=Riverini&top=%20Can%20i%20make%20a%20Question&bot=Mr%20Missani |

Kezbet
Tu Stultus Es
0
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:36:00 -
[68] - Quote
It's clear from listening to this that Riverini is completely unable to separate what The Matani does in-game from what he does as CSM chairman. Sadly, he's not doing much to convince people that he stands for anything other than beating goons. |

Drunk Sex
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:46:00 -
[69] - Quote
That accent.... |

Zain Andreas
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
59
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:47:00 -
[70] - Quote
QUESTION: Please ask the candidates if they know about the only named system in syndicate. |

Drunk Sex
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:49:00 -
[71] - Quote
QUESTION: "Riverini, do you think your terrible Mexican accent will affect your chances of getting enough votes?"
QUESTION: "So we know Mittens has a secure voting base to pull from, Riverini where do you expect most of your votes to come from? Do you think they'll be enough to get you on the council?" |

Emmerik
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.03.03 00:53:00 -
[72] - Quote
http://sonsof0din.com/images/stiverini.png |

Basileus Volkan
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
90
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Posted - 2012.03.03 01:09:00 -
[73] - Quote
The most important lesson so far: The CSM does not deliver blowjobs. |

Shobon Welp
Band of Brothers
17
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Posted - 2012.03.03 01:10:00 -
[74] - Quote
This Riverini guy is a Sacha Baron Cohen character, right? |

Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
456
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Posted - 2012.03.03 01:11:00 -
[75] - Quote
chaccaron maccaron was easier to understand than whatever riverini had to say |

Vincent VanDamme
Shadowfire Enterprises Rura-Penthe
1
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Posted - 2012.03.03 01:14:00 -
[76] - Quote
Seeing the horrific racism on the Eve radio channel.
Dissapointed.
 |

Fuujin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
82
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Posted - 2012.03.03 01:15:00 -
[77] - Quote
Riverini for CSM7: no boats, blowjobs, or communication! |

Daraja
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2012.03.03 01:16:00 -
[78] - Quote
Basileus Volkan wrote:The most important lesson so far: The CSM does not deliver blowjobs.
Wait I thought that was a legitimate bribe. |

gulftobay
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.03.03 01:18:00 -
[79] - Quote
Vincent VanDamme wrote:Seeing the horrific racism on the Eve radio channel. Dissapointed. 
Agreed - I don't like either of these candidates, but it seemed Eve Radio made fun of the language barrier for what's-his-face. |

Death2all Supercaps
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.03.03 01:20:00 -
[80] - Quote
Daraja wrote:Basileus Volkan wrote:The most important lesson so far: The CSM does not deliver blowjobs. Wait I thought that was a legitimate bribe.
Mcdoobies |

Basileus Volkan
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
92
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Posted - 2012.03.03 01:22:00 -
[81] - Quote
gulftobay wrote:Vincent VanDamme wrote:Seeing the horrific racism on the Eve radio channel. Dissapointed.  Agreed - I don't like either of these candidates, but it seemed Eve Radio made fun of the language barrier for what's-his-face.
It may not be entirely fair but someone who intends to represent the community of EvE should at the very least be able to speak English.
Plus if you're going to be in a debate you could get someone to translate for you... |

gulftobay
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.03.03 01:28:00 -
[82] - Quote
Quote:
It may not be entirely fair but someone who intends to represent the community of EvE should at the very least be able to speak English.
Plus if you're going to be in a debate you could get someone to translate for you...
That's a fair statement, although I just wondered why ER had to contribute to it.
|

Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
456
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 01:28:00 -
[83] - Quote
it wouldn't be a big deal if he wasn't talking about dropping panties, blowjobs and being pro-WiS. |

Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
456
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 01:29:00 -
[84] - Quote
oh god he has a haiku |

Vincent VanDamme
Shadowfire Enterprises Rura-Penthe
2
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 01:31:00 -
[85] - Quote
Basileus Volkan wrote:gulftobay wrote:Vincent VanDamme wrote:Seeing the horrific racism on the Eve radio channel. Dissapointed.  Agreed - I don't like either of these candidates, but it seemed Eve Radio made fun of the language barrier for what's-his-face. It may not be entirely fair but someone who intends to represent the community of EvE should at the very least be able to speak English. Plus if you're going to be in a debate you could get someone to translate for you...
He was speaking English. I could understand what he was saying pretty well. And i'm not a ployglot.
Oh wait..you mean he doesn't speak English with an accent and impeccable grammar? He sounds..foreign yeah?
And interesting. I was talking about racism on the channel, and it being bad. And you are trying to justify it because?
|

Basileus Volkan
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
92
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 01:36:00 -
[86] - Quote
There's a difference between speaking a language with an accent and not understanding the people you talk to. Besides as far as I'm aware the interview was his idea in the first place and, since he didn't get a translator, he thinks his speaking skills are good enough to hold a semi-political debate. Yet they obviously aren't, sorry. |

Fuujin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
83
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 01:40:00 -
[87] - Quote
Mittani, CSM Chair for life: He wants to send you to the hospital for alcohol poisoning. 
What has YOUR candidate done for you today? |

M1k3y Koontz
Taxes Suck Inc.
10
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 01:43:00 -
[88] - Quote
Drunk Sex wrote:QUESTION: "Riverini, do you think your terrible Mexican accent will affect your chances of getting enough votes?"
QUESTION: "So we know Mittens has a secure voting base to pull from, Riverini where do you expect most of your votes to come from? Do you think they'll be enough to get you on the council?"
Obvious troll alt is obvious |

Herpes Firecrotch
Pink Sockers
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 01:46:00 -
[89] - Quote
GOO RIVERINI!!
I COULD UNDERSTAND YOU FINE BROTHER
|

Basileus Volkan
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
92
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 02:09:00 -
[90] - Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9kpTvm6CYA&feature=youtu.be&hd=1
That is all. |

Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
183
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 02:25:00 -
[91] - Quote
oh god for christssake will somebody soundcloud the whole thing. wis: a roman orgy of all-you-can-eat social /dance o7m8 dressup, unrestrained do ask do tell out and proud at the space bar dollhouse, all the evolving new and exciting things you've ever wanted.
|

Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
458
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 02:29:00 -
[92] - Quote
Fuujin wrote:Mittani, CSM Chair for life: He wants to send you to the hospital for alcohol poisoning.  What has YOUR candidate done for you today?
I went Dutch on the drinking game which basically means that I just hit the bong instead of the bottle.
it made the interview so much more enjoyable |

Triskian
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
15
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 02:32:00 -
[93] - Quote
Can someone do a full transcription of the debate for the deaf members of the voting public? |

Janos Saal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
79
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 02:42:00 -
[94] - Quote
Triskian wrote:Can someone do a full transcription of the debate for the deaf members of the voting public? I don't think anything Riverini said can be translated into a language understandable by a human. EVE is dead |

DJ Xaphod
Eve Radio Corporation
15
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 03:06:00 -
[95] - Quote
Hey guys 
During my show on Sunday (1800-2100 game time) I'm going to try running an informal open roundtable session.
Those who can't attend are welcome to evemail me statements or things they'd like discussing.
Those who can attend is welcome to evemail me, and I will chat with whoever I can get on skype during the show.
EVE Radio, bringing music to the masses; http://eve-radio.com
Purple Sabbath, with Xaphod; Sunday 18:00 game time.-á Now including the Lemmings Leap |

DJ FunkyBacon
Eve Radio Corporation
33
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 03:19:00 -
[96] - Quote
Thank you to everyone who listened in, the Eve Radio people who worked their asses off behind the scenes keeping the server from imploding, the DJ's and members of CCP who took time out to help keep the communication channels from drowning, and for otherwise just being there, and also to Mittens and Riverini for helping us put on a crazy show tonight.
One Love.
The show should be up on Eve Radio's Rewind Service now, and I imagine there will be a podcast download sometime later. |

Mechaet
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 03:35:00 -
[97] - Quote
Listening to the replay on this and holy cow.
Holy cow.
And Mittens was good too. |

Just fearless
Phantom Squad Nulli Secunda
24
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 03:45:00 -
[98] - Quote
sound cloud please! |

Jr Instructorcon
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
86
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 04:04:00 -
[99] - Quote
DJ FunkyBacon wrote:Thank you to everyone who listened in, the Eve Radio people who worked their asses off behind the scenes keeping the server from imploding, the DJ's and members of CCP who took time out to help keep the communication channels from drowning, and for otherwise just being there, and also to Mittens and Riverini for helping us put on a crazy show tonight. One Love. The show should be up on Eve Radio's Rewind Service now, and I imagine there will be a podcast download sometime later.
Hey, great show! I may of clicked the wrong link, was there a English version of the stream? |

Mechaet
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 04:27:00 -
[100] - Quote
Triskian wrote:Can someone do a full transcription of the debate for the deaf members of the voting public? I'm actually really tempted to do that. If for nothing else, the sheer hilarity of my translation. |

Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
355
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 04:43:00 -
[101] - Quote
It is obvious that the Mittani (or however you spell his name) is a better politician. And TBH it seems to me that riverini thinks that the CSM is a place to try to push for your own personal pet projects. Yeah, bounties need to be fixed - but this isn't the CSMs place to fix it. The Mittani has the right idea with the CSM being a sounding board for CCP and a shield to protect the players from boneheaded ideas about space pants.
That being said, I agree with riverini's ideas - I just don't think he'll make the best CSM chair. The Mittani is aggressive, cunning - and above all else - dangerously competent. |

Seleene
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
1316
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 05:54:00 -
[102] - Quote
Just fearless wrote:sound cloud please!
Sound Cloud LINKAGE
Seleene's Sandbox - My Blog, where I say stuff. Follow Seleene on Twitter |

Jita Alt666
944
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 07:01:00 -
[103] - Quote
Thanks - its a great listen. What did you make of the interview?
|

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
212
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 07:25:00 -
[104] - Quote
Taedrin wrote:That being said, I agree with riverini's ideas - I just don't think he'll make the best CSM chair. The Mittani is aggressive, cunning - and above all else - dangerously competent. Dangerous~~ Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Mechaet
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 07:59:00 -
[105] - Quote
Taedrin wrote:It is obvious that the Mittani (or however you spell his name) is a better politician. And TBH it seems to me that riverini thinks that the CSM is a place to try to push for your own personal pet projects. Yeah, bounties need to be fixed - but this isn't the CSMs place to fix it. The Mittani has the right idea with the CSM being a sounding board for CCP and a shield to protect the players from boneheaded ideas about space pants.
That being said, I agree with riverini's ideas - I just don't think he'll make the best CSM chair. The Mittani is aggressive, cunning - and above all else - dangerously competent. Every one of these stupid elections people run on a truther-level stupid platform of the changes THEY want to make in Eve. That's why Mittani won CSM6, it's why he'll have CSM7 in the bag: he runs on a platform of "I want them to listen to us" instead of "I want them to listen to me". It makes him the best bet for the money as a good guy on the CSM, and even better as a chair.
Stop stupid campaigns. Vote The Mittani for Chairman. |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
7
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 09:20:00 -
[106] - Quote
To Funky Bacon, get someone who can actually do a radio show. Last night was just an utter shambles. |

Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
806
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 09:34:00 -
[107] - Quote
I'm a native english speaker and I have absolutely no clue what he's trying to say. What chance do a bunch of kindly icelandic folk have in understanding a word of it? |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
7
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 09:52:00 -
[108] - Quote
I wiil not vote for Mittens, as he seems to be using Eve to boost his personal ego.
But to give him credit, he sounds as if he knows what he is talking about.
Take away the overweening ego and his narrow minded factionalism, then Mittens could be a really good CSM7 candidate, for all of Eve. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
288
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 11:41:00 -
[109] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I wiil not vote for Mittens, as he seems to be using Eve to boost his personal ego.
But to give him credit, he sounds as if he knows what he is talking about.
Take away the overweening ego and his narrow minded factionalism, then Mittens could be a really good CSM7 candidate, for all of Eve.
Literally everyone who runs for CSM does so to inflate their ego, the only difference is to which ones will have positive effects on Eve in the process and which ones will just ham-fistedly try to shove their terrible ideas onto CCP's drawing board because they don't understand how influence or persuasion works. ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
273
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 13:50:00 -
[110] - Quote
I really don't think this is about Ego.
He's the head of Goonswarm. He runs an organization bigger than some real world corporations.
No, this is about trying to save the game we love from people who would push forth an agenda of Panties in Stations and other such nonsense. |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
204
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 14:55:00 -
[111] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I wiil not vote for Mittens, as he seems to be using Eve to boost his personal ego.
But to give him credit, he sounds as if he knows what he is talking about.
Take away the overweening ego and his narrow minded factionalism, then Mittens could be a really good CSM7 candidate, for all of Eve.
I don't think he brings factionalism to the CSM, but I think most of the people who dislike him do so out of their own factionalism. However, if you can't bring yourself to vote for The Mittani, you should vote for someone who can work with him, because he's definitely going to have the numbers to get on the CSM again and will probably be chairman.
I think CSM6 was a good team and most of them deserve a return ticket, and also Mittens has gone out of his way to mention Hans Jagerblitzen as someone who has made a positive contribution to CSM6 without even being on it.
But you really want to cast a vote for Mittens, you just haven't admitted it to yourself yet. It's okay, you won't have to tell anyone who you really voted for.  |

Skye Aurorae
No Bull Ships
191
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 16:01:00 -
[112] - Quote
On the audio side, it was clear that Mittani ruled the day,
however I and several other CSM candidates were blocked from asking any question in the Eve-radio channel, I understand there was issues with spam from supporters, but the channel kept getting locked down completely and despite requests to the moderators both in the channel and by other means I was not given the ability to interact.
As for the DJ - Skye has been performing for 5 years now, she started on the wheels of steel when she was 2 years old: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ugx2U263_I
(and her dad has been at it since the mid 80's, he even used to DJ at parties in San Francisco with a certain DJ Malloc who went on to work at CCP) Skye Aurora is a 7 year old Girl Who Wants to be on the CSM! Unfortunately, the Lawyers say you have to be 21, so.. Vote for Scott Manley / Skye Aurorae for CSM 7 An Expert in Dealing with Childish Arguments Over Toys. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=68506 |

Arctus Arrakis
Pony Coalition.
2
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 16:21:00 -
[113] - Quote
I think that Riverini's inability to communicate his ideas makes him a poor choice for the CSM, let alone chairman. I'm not advocating discriminating due to someone not speaking English fluently, but in this venue, politics, communication is the job, and he doesn't have the basic skills required.
You wouldn't call it discrimination if the bus company refused to hire blind drivers, would you? Of course not, they lack the tools to perform the job. Same deal here. Politics means communication, and in this particular venue it means communicating in English. This is something that riverini is not truly capable of. The nail in the coffin is that he believes he is capable, as this debate was his own idea. This creates a huge gap between what riverini thinks he's saying and has said, and what's actually gotten to the ears of CCP, or in last nights case the other debater, Mittani. Who, obviously a fairly competent individual, was constantly at a loss as to the content of riverini's answers. |

The Hamilton
Definitive Exploration and Excavations The Watchmen.
2
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 17:30:00 -
[114] - Quote
It's nice to know that the new rookie ship idea came from CSM6, clearly showing they know nothing about the new player base.
Having a newer looking ship that looks COMPLETELY out of place against all other frigates is just stupid. So the first ship the new player buys looks completely different and worse not better than their weak ass rookie ship? WTF!! I would click quit by that point immediately. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
290
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 17:50:00 -
[115] - Quote
The Hamilton wrote:It's nice to know that the new rookie ship idea came from CSM6, clearly showing they know nothing about the new player base.
Having a newer looking ship that looks COMPLETELY out of place against all other frigates is just stupid. So the first ship the new player buys looks completely different and worse not better than their weak ass rookie ship? WTF!! I would click quit by that point immediately.
This is about first impressions though. By the time the newbie has played a few hours to get into their next upgrade ship from the rookie frig, they're much more likely to have decided on whether they like the game and want to continue or not and will overlook the fact that there are other ugly ships later on. Plus, you don't get to choose your rookie ship, so if you're a Minmatar newbie you're getting the hideous Reaper model rubbed in your face whether you like it or not, but if you think the Rifter looks horrible compared to the Vigil or the Breacher you can pick between the T1 frigates on the market for the prettiest option - and when you're a newbie who doesn't know any better, whether you like the look of the model is likely to be one of the things that actually matters. ALL the ship models are going to get overhauled and prettified at some point, but rookie frigs are an option that would almost certainly have been overlooked in favour of sexier options if it hadn't have been bought up by the CSM. ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1750
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 18:55:00 -
[116] - Quote
Skye Aurorae wrote:however I and several other CSM candidates were blocked from asking any question in the Eve-radio channel, I understand there was issues with spam from supporters,
Goons ruin everything.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Basileus Volkan
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
96
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 19:13:00 -
[117] - Quote
Ladie Harlot wrote:Skye Aurorae wrote:however I and several other CSM candidates were blocked from asking any question in the Eve-radio channel, I understand there was issues with spam from supporters, Goons ruin everything.
Riverini for CSM7 Ban all Goons! |

Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
634
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 19:40:00 -
[118] - Quote
It was as i expected...to some point  |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
207
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 20:14:00 -
[119] - Quote
Drop all the panties! |

Zanami Ahishatsu
Point of No Return Waterboard
1
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 20:20:00 -
[120] - Quote
While I think Riverini has some interesting ideas, Mittani is more fit for the role as chairman. He is, as he points out several times, a communicator, a better communicator than Riverini in this case. As some here point out he could benefit from toning down that ego a bit. I wouldn't count Riverini out from the CSM altogether but I don't really see him as chairman.
Also, seriously guys, tone down the thrashing. I could clearly understand Riverini almost throughout the whole session. |

Devilish Ledoux
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
57
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 21:28:00 -
[121] - Quote
Zanami Ahishatsu wrote:Also, seriously guys, tone down the thrashing. I could clearly understand Riverini almost throughout the whole session. I understood all the words he used, but I still had almost no idea what in the holy name of Tzeentch he was saying. |

Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
140
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 21:58:00 -
[122] - Quote
Riverini, a living example of the Dunning-Kruger effect in action. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |

Algia Knightstorm
Cloak and Daggers Fidelas Constans
8
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 22:29:00 -
[123] - Quote
I regret that I have but one like to give. |

Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
462
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 22:52:00 -
[124] - Quote
illusory superiority thy name is riverini |

DJ FunkyBacon
Eve Radio Corporation
34
|
Posted - 2012.03.03 23:48:00 -
[125] - Quote
Skye Aurorae wrote:On the audio side, it was clear that Mittani ruled the day, however I and several other CSM candidates were blocked from asking any question in the Eve-radio channel, I understand there was issues with spam from supporters, but the channel kept getting locked down completely and despite requests to the moderators both in the channel and by other means I was not given the ability to interact. As for the DJ - Skye has been performing for 5 years now, she started on the wheels of steel when she was 2 years old: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ugx2U263_I(and her dad has been at it since the mid 80's, he even used to DJ at parties in San Francisco with a certain DJ Malloc who went on to work at CCP)
As stated earlier in the show, questions were monitored and picked up from in game, irc, this thread on eve o, our facebook page, and twitter. If you had read the OP you would have seen such references as well.
I am also familiar with Skye's exploits on youtube, I've seen a few of her videos. Very cute. I have a 2 year old myself who will be playing Eve Soon(tm). She has co-hosted a couple times before bedtime already on the show.  |

Bliswonowon
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
8
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 00:40:00 -
[126] - Quote
Just today I read about a study about how this effect corrupts democracy. Many voters are equally unable to distinguish truly skilled candidates from incompetent ones, and good arguments from merely persuasive ones, and so their votes are based on rationalized but fundamentally emotional knee-jerk reactions. I think I'm seeing a lot of that going on here in Jita Park.
Anyway, regardless of how lopsided and unintentionally hilarious the debate was, Riverini did bring up one good point. EVE is being marketed the wrong way, to the wrong audience. It's a sandbox with incredible depth and complexity that sets it completely apart from all other MMOs, yet they try to sell it as some kind of a flashy spaceship shooter. Anyone joining EVE because they believed what they saw in the promo video is going to be disappointed. Marketing is beyond the scope of the CSM, but I'm glad this was mentioned in such a well-publicized debate that CCP was no doubt listening to. |

The Hamilton
Definitive Exploration and Excavations The Watchmen.
2
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 05:08:00 -
[127] - Quote
Scatim Helicon wrote:The Hamilton wrote:It's nice to know that the new rookie ship idea came from CSM6, clearly showing they know nothing about the new player base.
Having a newer looking ship that looks COMPLETELY out of place against all other frigates is just stupid. So the first ship the new player buys looks completely different and worse not better than their weak ass rookie ship? WTF!! I would click quit by that point immediately. This is about first impressions though. By the time the newbie has played a few hours to get into their next upgrade ship from the rookie frig, they're much more likely to have decided on whether they like the game and want to continue or not and will overlook the fact that there are other ugly ships later on. Plus, you don't get to choose your rookie ship, so if you're a Minmatar newbie you're getting the hideous Reaper model rubbed in your face whether you like it or not, but if you think the Rifter looks horrible compared to the Vigil or the Breacher you can pick between the T1 frigates on the market for the prettiest option - and when you're a newbie who doesn't know any better, whether you like the look of the model is likely to be one of the things that actually matters. ALL the ship models are going to get overhauled and prettified at some point, but rookie frigs are an option that would almost certainly have been overlooked in favour of sexier options if it hadn't have been bought up by the CSM.
Tyrannis was the "make the ships prettier" update and I think that we can still go a few years without another major art overhaul on every ship. I just think there are much simpler ways to give good first impressions than spending all the time going through the art process just to confuse new player's feelings about getting better during their first hour playing. If this was a call about; make the super-caps or the rookie ships prettier? CSM6 should have said "Neither! That is the wrong place to be putting effort into art when there are still a large number of issues that need to be fixed where sexy art is concerned. And if you have to improve some ships, do it to the other frigates so that when the new player moves into their second ship they feel awesome!" |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2550
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 05:27:00 -
[128] - Quote
that's a dumb opinion |

The Hamilton
Definitive Exploration and Excavations The Watchmen.
2
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 05:46:00 -
[129] - Quote
Face it |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
213
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 08:55:00 -
[130] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:that's a dumb opinion Eloquence in simplicity. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Freelancer117
Obsidian Tigers
20
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 11:12:00 -
[131] - Quote
Quote: RVRNI > when they get fooked, they can not blame themselves for not using condoms
This  |

Andrea Roche
State War Academy Caldari State
40
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 12:48:00 -
[132] - Quote
the mittani once again is taking events that happened in eve and presenting it as if it was his doing.  too bad many people that have been here know the fact from fiction. |

Vincent VanDamme
Shadowfire Enterprises Rura-Penthe
5
|
Posted - 2012.03.04 15:41:00 -
[133] - Quote
Bliswonowon wrote:Just today I read about a study about how this effect corrupts democracy. Many voters are equally unable to distinguish truly skilled candidates from incompetent ones, and good arguments from merely persuasive ones, and so their votes are based on rationalized but fundamentally emotional knee-jerk reactions. I think I'm seeing a lot of that going on here in Jita Park. Anyway, regardless of how lopsided and unintentionally hilarious the debate was, Riverini did bring up one good point. EVE is being marketed the wrong way, to the wrong audience. It's a sandbox with incredible depth and complexity that sets it completely apart from all other MMOs, yet they try to sell it as some kind of a flashy spaceship shooter. Anyone joining EVE because they believed what they saw in the promo video is going to be disappointed. Marketing is beyond the scope of the CSM, but I'm glad this was mentioned in such a well-publicized debate that CCP was no doubt listening to.
Well made point, and good on you for re-raising it.
I looked up Eve not for the PewPew. But it was the GHSC heist that got my attention.
Thinks like that, the sov map, the empire building, the politics, manipulaiton, alliances, friends, enemies etc will get people in.
Thanks
|

Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
365
|
Posted - 2012.03.06 17:25:00 -
[134] - Quote
Arctus Arrakis wrote:I think that Riverini's inability to communicate his ideas makes him a poor choice for the CSM, let alone chairman. I'm not advocating discriminating due to someone not speaking English fluently, but in this venue, politics, communication is the job, and he doesn't have the basic skills required
You wouldn't call it discrimination if the bus company refused to hire blind drivers, would you? Of course not, they lack the tools to perform the job. Same deal here. Politics means communication, and in this particular venue it means communicating in English. This is something that riverini is not truly capable of. The nail in the coffin is that he believes he is capable, as this debate was his own idea. This creates a huge gap between what riverini thinks he's saying and has said, and what's actually gotten to the ears of CCP, or in last nights case the other debater, Mittani. Who, obviously a fairly competent individual, was constantly at a loss as to the content of riverini's answers.
Wait... did you essentially say "I'm not saying we should discriminate against riverini for not speaking impeccable English, but we should discriminate against riverini for not speaking impeccable English?
I know the word "discriminate" has a bad connotation to it, but let's call a spade a spade here. |

Weloriavia
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
0
|
Posted - 2012.03.07 20:04:00 -
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Lets face it, this is basically a political race. In political situations where dissagreements are liekly to arise, the person who can respond the quickest with a more eloquent answer is going to recieve more attention from both comrades and enemies alike. This is fact. In regards to issues raised however, both had legitimate concerns and answers. Mit obviously has more experience due to his position in CSM6 but that does not mean you can discount a new candidate just because of inadequate experience. One thing I do appreciate about the current CSM (6) is the focus on fixing current issues rather than moving on to game development. This is an issue all MMO's experience at one time or another and it is of course nice to see the players being represented effectively by a rather elloquent bunch! To Mit's ego: While it is not an issue it is something that should be toned down. I like to see our CSM presenting a professional front that represents the players best interests. THAT being said Mit knows how to play hardball, a trait that was heavily required for one of the first CSM's to be taken seriously. Also in his favor is it was nice to see a CSM'r making a public face for themselves, although not every one may appreciate the aura he gives off or every word that comes out of his mouth, we do all know who he is. To R.sd.f, however you spell his name .. He is the head of EvE 24. A service which I as many enjoy being able to use free of charge daily. I would be concerned about his ability to broadcast his ideas and criticism as a member of CSM, as I imagine long term either CCP will get pissy about being represented in a bad light (legitimate concern), or even going so far as to manipulating public opinion to achieve his aims through a service established to entertain and provide information. Lets face it no one likes media controlled by the government and this would be effectively what would be happening.
Just some of my thoughts regarding their debate, I have plenty more and would be interested to see more of what everyone else is thinking. |

asidburn Enaka
Alpha Arms and Manufacturing BROTHERHOOD OF DESTRUCTION
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Posted - 2012.03.08 08:39:00 -
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i just want to let everyone know about this scammer claming to be giving plex for votes dont be caught falling for this scam vote aganist darius III member of interstellar eXodus {IE-EX} they are scaming people pass the word on to everyone you can and vote aganist these undeserving jerks here is a copy of the chat log as proof of there unworthy actions!!!!!!!!
asidburn Enaka > what do i need to do Darius III > http://community.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=480 go there Darius III > vote for me then paste the message you got after vote cast into this chat asidburn Enaka > your vote has been registered. We thank you for your participation. Darius III > Thanks man Darius III > that concludes our business Darius III > Fly safe asidburn Enaka > and what about the contract asidburn Enaka > i will have my alliance vote aganist you about 250 people asidburn Enaka > and then where will you be asidburn Enaka > send me the contract and i will have them vote for you asidburn Enaka > this is what we call a test of charecture Darius III > Have them vote against me Darius III > Sorry for the ssam Darius III > But I wouldnt sleep at night if I didnt do everything in my power to make syure that Goons dont ruin this CSM asidburn Enaka > your an idiot all your going to do is send more votes to the goons Darius III > not really Darius III > Goons will win chairman nbo matetr what, doesnt matter Darius III > nothing can stop them Darius III > and thats a real shame asidburn Enaka > well you just lost 243 votes asidburn Enaka > got 1 lost 243 Darius III > Didnt have them anyway Darius III > didnt lose anything Darius III > Just please dont make forum post about me, it would ruin my campaign asidburn Enaka > not to mentone att the isk spam bans you r about to get asidburn Enaka > too late asidburn Enaka > and i just copyed this conv asidburn Enaka > so i can post Darius III > You wouldnt dare do it Darius III > You too lazy anyway Darius III > I dont have a thing to worry about asidburn Enaka > haha i play eve 8 hrs a day and im retired all i have is time Darius III > no lazy bones like you would waste their time. LOL so much for your empty threats LOL
rember i dont care who you vote for just dont voter for the |
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