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Sung Lie
Elite Shadow Society
ESS Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.02 21:32:00 -
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So if a JF cyno in to station, and immediately docks, then undocks and is invuln till about 5 seconds before he jumps, is there any way of stopping that chain of events so he can't jump? |
Ganjjabeard
Good Vs. Neutral
Stop Exploding You Cowards
5
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Posted - 2012.03.02 21:37:00 -
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i would think a nice good bump would do the trick |
Sung Lie
Elite Shadow Society
ESS Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.02 21:41:00 -
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Ganjjabeard wrote:i would think a nice good bump would do the trick
but would the bump throw them off of their cyno out? |
Tetragammatron Prime
Pink Sockers
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Posted - 2012.03.02 22:10:00 -
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They are pretty much invunerable in low sec unless they dock in bad kickout station. In 0.0 you can bubble the undock so they can't jump but they'll just dock back up. |
Daneel Trevize
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.02 22:29:00 -
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Can't bump unless they break the invulnerability early, no? I've seen plenty of ships pass through each other when undocking.
I expect there's a 10second session timer between cynoing to the station and being able to dock. It's a small window where you should be bumpable as that's a different arrival on grid to a gate jump or undock, right?
Lastly if the cyno ship's bumped(only possible before lighting the cyno?), or killed before you load system, I think you could find yourself out of position or elsewhere in the target system entirely. You'd then need to get back to the station to dock, while flying a space brick. |
Kessiaan
Greater Order Of Destruction
Happy Endings
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Posted - 2012.03.02 23:20:00 -
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Tetragammatron Prime wrote:bump won't do anything since they will jump while still invunerable from undock (although session timer expired).
Confirming this. Best chance to get a JF is on the jump-in. If the cyno is poorly placed they may land outside of the station docking radius if they're unlucky. Some people will also light a cyno on a gate to highsec instead of on a station, or at a POS. Both will leave the JF vulnerable for quite some period of time, though anyone with a brain will logoffski the moment they see a neutral in system if their JF is vulnerable.
My killboard - http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Kessiaan |
Dradius Calvantia
Creative Cookie Procuring
Rote Kapelle
251
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Posted - 2012.03.03 10:48:00 -
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There are some things you can do to try to catch them, but to be honest they have to be doing something colossally stupid for you to have any chance. A correctly flown JF is invulnerable transport anywhere in EVE. |
astara989
Push Mineral Extraction
Push Interstellar Network
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Posted - 2012.03.04 11:21:00 -
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I've seen someone lose a JF becuase they lit the cyno on a POS instead of a station with a known cloaked hotdropper in system. |
Tetragammatron Prime
Pink Sockers
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Posted - 2012.03.05 00:26:00 -
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yep..that is why you light the cyno far enough from pos that you can warp down (instawarp with web) instead of slowboat inside and get buthole ripped wide |
Trinkets friend
Obstergo
NEM3SIS.
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Posted - 2012.03.06 02:07:00 -
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PL lost a JF when they jumped in system to warp to an allied POS and derped on putting the password in correctly. Bounced 70km from shield, then made dead by the foe. Oops.
The skilful employer of men will employ the wise man, the brave man, the covetous man, and the stupid man.
Sun Tzu
@trinketsfriend on twatter
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Mordeth Ventox
Perpetua Umbra
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2012.03.06 16:14:00 -
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Kessiaan wrote:Tetragammatron Prime wrote:bump won't do anything since they will jump while still invunerable from undock (although session timer expired). Confirming this. Best chance to get a JF is on the jump-in. If the cyno is poorly placed they may land outside of the station docking radius if they're unlucky. Some people will also light a cyno on a gate to highsec instead of on a station, or at a POS. Both will leave the JF vulnerable for quite some period of time, though anyone with a brain will logoffski the moment they see a neutral in system if their JF is vulnerable.
Does lighting a cyno on a high sec gate put the JF outside gate jump range most of the time?? If so I need to re-evaluate my future JF plans lol. |
Zeerover
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2012.03.06 17:49:00 -
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Never jump to the gate, instead find stations with obscene dock rings (most Caldari and a few Amarr) and use them exclusively and you'll have a long and happy JF life.
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Tarsas Phage
Pain Delivery.
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Posted - 2012.03.06 21:36:00 -
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Zeerover wrote:Never jump to the gate, instead find stations with obscene dock rings (most Caldari and a few Amarr) and use them exclusively and you'll have a long and happy JF life.
Nothing wrong with cynoing on gates. It's very fast now with the 10s session timer, and you're always in jump range of the gate when you load grid. Always.
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One Hugo
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.07 15:12:00 -
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Tarsas Phage wrote:you're always in jump range of the gate when you load grid. Always.
How is that possible? You need to be in 2500m of the gate to jump. The cyno bubble is 5000m radius. |
Mia Restolo
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.07 15:28:00 -
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One Hugo wrote:Tarsas Phage wrote:you're always in jump range of the gate when you load grid. Always. How is that possible? You need to be in 2500m of the gate to jump. The cyno bubble is 5000m radius.
A gate is huge, distance is measured from the gate not a single point in the middle of it. |
Tarsas Phage
Pain Delivery.
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Posted - 2012.03.07 18:04:00 -
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One Hugo wrote:Tarsas Phage wrote:you're always in jump range of the gate when you load grid. Always. How is that possible? You need to be in 2500m of the gate to jump. The cyno bubble is 5000m radius.
Don't ask, just do. Trust me. |
Mfume Apocal
Origin.
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Posted - 2012.03.09 23:27:00 -
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Tarsas Phage wrote:Nothing wrong with cynoing on gates. It's very fast now with the 10s session timer, and you're always in jump range of the gate when you load grid. Always.
10/10
I'm betting 90% of the people responding don't realize you kill JFs for a living.
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Gizan
Hounds Of War
WHY so Seri0Us
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Posted - 2012.03.12 06:52:00 -
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Just go onto the test server and test this out 123123145 times :)
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Mona X
Missions Mining and Mayhem
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2012.03.12 07:45:00 -
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Mfume Apocal wrote:Tarsas Phage wrote:Nothing wrong with cynoing on gates. It's very fast now with the 10s session timer, and you're always in jump range of the gate when you load grid. Always.
10/10 I'm betting 90% of the people responding don't realize you kill JFs for a living.
But less than half in lolsec!
I need new signature. |
Hyperdallas
RedBull War Toys
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
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Posted - 2012.03.12 21:59:00 -
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Tarsas Phage wrote:Zeerover wrote:Never jump to the gate, instead find stations with obscene dock rings (most Caldari and a few Amarr) and use them exclusively and you'll have a long and happy JF life. Nothing wrong with cynoing on gates. It's very fast now with the 10s session timer, and you're always in jump range of the gate when you load grid. Always.
M8 u are so bad at pvp
ALL I HAD TO SAY <3 U |
Bad Messenger
draketrain
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2012.03.13 09:43:00 -
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There has been also some bugs that may cause JF losses even on stations, maybe fixed but i doubt. |
Sjugar
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.13 22:46:00 -
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Instalock Muninn instapopping the cyno at the exact right moment and a prober with probes around the sun.
If the Jumpfreighter jumps at the exact time his cyno is popped he won't land at the station but in the sun. From there he will be propelled out at ridiculous speeds, but you can catch him when he slows down.
It needs a bit (a lot) of work but can be done. |
Kessiaan
Greater Order Of Destruction
Happy Endings
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:45:00 -
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Sjugar wrote:Instalock Muninn instapopping the cyno at the exact right moment and a prober with probes around the sun.
If the Jumpfreighter jumps at the exact time his cyno is popped he won't land at the station but in the sun. From there he will be propelled out at ridiculous speeds, but you can catch him when he slows down.
It needs a bit (a lot) of work but can be done.
This still depends on the JF pilot being stupid and not logging off when he jumps into the wrong spot, or at worst after 1 d-scan and seeing combat probes.
There's a lot of confusion about the recent changes to aggression mechanics - they don't get a 15 minute timer if they log off *before* they're aggressed.
My killboard - http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Kessiaan |
Zaxix
Black Frog Logistics
Red-Frog
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Posted - 2012.03.14 19:37:00 -
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The time it takes to slow down to a speed that would allow a prober to catch you on a grid and get to you for tackle is more than enough time for the cap to recharge and jump back out.
Red Frog--Hisec Courier
Black Frog--Losec/Nosec Courier
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Mark Hadden
Joint Endeavor
Bright Side of Death
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Posted - 2012.03.16 13:16:00 -
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JF at stations are almost absolutely invulnerable.
Only chance of catching them if they cyno in on POS and slowboat into the forcefield or warp off somewhere, where you could drop a bubble, assumed he would warp/cyno in anyways with you in local. |
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