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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.05.03 20:17:00 -
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First of all, we need a module that can quickly salvage any wrecks in your vicinity without having to move to them.
I'm tired of tying up precious target space with a wreck just so I can salvage it. I also don't like using a tractor beam because it takes up another highslot.
SO
We need an area-of-effect salvaging module. It'd have a radius of say, 20km and could not be fitted by carebears. This would prevent them from speeding their little isk farming missions along.
At any rate, I think it's a pretty good idea and should be investigated thoroughly. |

Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.05.03 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa It'd have a radius of say, 20km and could not be fitted by carebears.
I lol'd. |

Sonofa Preacher
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Posted - 2008.05.03 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
I'm tired of tying up precious target space with a wreck just so I can salvage it. I also don't like using a tractor beam because it takes up another highslot. SO We need an area-of-effect salvaging module.
OR
you need to have someone else to do it for you if you can't be bothered doing it yourself.
OR
you can just not salvage things.
Quote: It'd have a radius of say, 20km and could not be fitted by carebears.
And how would you enforce this? Maybe add a button at Login that you can set to either Carebear or not carebear maybe?
Quote: This would prevent them from speeding their little isk farming missions along.
And would allows us to speed along out little isk farming. Yay! Oh wait....
In other words.... ROTFLMAO  |

Demitria Fernir
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Posted - 2008.05.03 20:29:00 -
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there is already the skill you need, it's called salvaging drones |

Tippia
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.05.03 20:33:00 -
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Humour! 
(And just in case you're actually serious: we already do) |

Seth Ruin
Minmatar Galactic Exploration and Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2008.05.03 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa At any rate, I think it's a pretty good idea and should be investigated thoroughly.
Investigation begins: Should we automate the looting and salvaging process?
Conclusion: No. Get a bloody salvager ship or a friend to help you out.
Next.  |

Big Al
The Aftermath
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Posted - 2008.05.03 21:03:00 -
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It'd be nice to be able to salvage without mindlessly grinding... rig prices would drastically drop. Everyone benefits except for the people who don't currently value their time/sanity. |

Narine Evan
Derelik Capital Constructions
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Posted - 2008.05.03 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Big Al It'd be nice to be able to salvage without mindlessly grinding... rig prices would drastically drop. Everyone benefits except for the people who don't currently value their time/sanity.
Great Idea. Can we also get a button the instantly spawns Motherships as well? You know to stop the annoying grind when you wanna build them.
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Seth Ruin
Minmatar Galactic Exploration and Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2008.05.03 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Big Al It'd be nice to be able to salvage without mindlessly grinding... rig prices would drastically drop. Everyone benefits except for the people who don't currently value their time/sanity.
Salvaging is not and never was necessary. The value of rigs and salvage loot is directly dependent on the amount of time and effort it takes to salvage.
May as well just say "Forget salvaging, just have agents give us salvage loot as rewards." Or hell, "Forget salvaging, just have agents give us rigs as rewards."
Why have an AoE salvager but not AoE looter? Or AoE miner? The only difference is the graphical representation and name of what you get. They're all items, they all have value in isk, and their values all depend upon the difficulty of obtaining said items. |

Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Spaceways
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Posted - 2008.05.03 21:12:00 -
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Let's say it could only be fitted on a "covert ops interceptor" -- a new hybrid ship based on an interceptor hull that can't warp but can run its MWD or AB under cloak. Now that I'd pay for. |

Cagot
Ion Corp. Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.03 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Demitria Fernir there is already the skill you need, it's called salvaging drones
I have the skill -- now all we need are the drones!
Seriously, I think it's a fine idea. There's a tradeoff, which EVE dearly loves: if you're using your salvaging drones you aren't using the attack drones. We have mining drones, so why not salvaging drones?
I'd like to be able to set them to ignore scrap metal, ofc. |

Freya Runestone
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.05.03 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa First of all, we need a module that can quickly salvage any wrecks in your vicinity without having to move to them.
I'm tired of tying up precious target space with a wreck just so I can salvage it. I also don't like using a tractor beam because it takes up another highslot.
SO
We need an area-of-effect salvaging module. It'd have a radius of say, 20km and could not be fitted by carebears. This would prevent them from speeding their little isk farming missions along.
At any rate, I think it's a pretty good idea and should be investigated thoroughly.
I got a better idea. when you talk to your mission agent, you just get 1 days worth of missioning in ISK, usable every 24h.
on a more serious note. Get a salvage destroyer or leave it, you're not required to salvage it, it's completely optional. |

Wayson
Minmatar Trans Nebula Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.03 21:24:00 -
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Salvage Drones ftw. It makes sense, since Mining Drones already have a cargo hold and work for mining. Please CCP? *prostrates and begs* |

Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Umbra Synergy Final Retribution Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.03 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa First of all, we need a module that can quickly salvage any wrecks in your vicinity without having to move to them.
I'm tired of tying up precious target space with a wreck just so I can salvage it. I also don't like using a tractor beam because it takes up another highslot.
SO
We need an area-of-effect salvaging module. It'd have a radius of say, 20km and could not be fitted by carebears. This would prevent them from speeding their little isk farming missions along.
At any rate, I think it's a pretty good idea and should be investigated thoroughly.
HA! hahahaha HAHAHA!
"plz ccp, make game play itself for me so I can be busy whining on the forums about other people not playing the game for themselves"
thank you siig, I haven't had a nice big bowl of hypocrisy in a long time |

AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.05.03 21:38:00 -
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AOE miner would be cool on a capital miner (please? PRETTY please?!). Smartbomb activates, breaks the outer shells of all roids in the area, and then uses a suction-like (yes I realize this doesn't work in space... there's nothing to suction ) mod to loot it all instantaneously.
....But really, no. Just... no. |

Johnny Darkseid
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.05.03 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa How to fish for trolls?
Success! |

Frug
Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.05.03 21:51:00 -
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No.
There is no need to change the process of salvaging just because you're lazy and don't want to fit to do it. If that's the case, let someone else do it.
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Big Al
The Aftermath
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Posted - 2008.05.03 22:23:00 -
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I guess I forgot most of the player base doesn't play this pvp game to pvp, sorry. |

Sim'a Nuk
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2008.05.03 22:27:00 -
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i want bubble salvager with 500km radius
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Frug
Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.05.03 22:29:00 -
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Edited by: Frug on 03/05/2008 22:30:40
Originally by: Big Al I guess I forgot most of the player base doesn't play this pvp game to pvp, sorry.
Yeah. Screw those industrialists and never mind that it has probably the best and most detailed economy and crafting system of any game ever made. They should play your game and everything should be cheaper because it's only here for pvp.
It's a time sink. It's supposed to take time. Rig part prices are low enough. If the time vs profit ratio is too low for you, don't do it. I don't get the problem.
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Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2008.05.03 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa [...] We need an area-of-effect salvaging module. It'd have a radius of say, 20km and could not be fitted by carebears. This would prevent them from speeding their little isk farming missions along.[...]
Siigari, could you please enlighten us on how the game could see the difference between a PvPer and the PvEer - aka "The Carebear"? I mean, sometimes even I have problems on seeing the difference..
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.05.04 05:50:00 -
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Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa [...] We need an area-of-effect salvaging module. It'd have a radius of say, 20km and could not be fitted by carebears. This would prevent them from speeding their little isk farming missions along.[...]
Siigari, could you please enlighten us on how the game could see the difference between a PvPer and the PvEer - aka "The Carebear"? I mean, sometimes even I have problems on seeing the difference..
Siig has the Jenny Spitfire syndrome.  |

Bloody Rabbit
Jita Miners
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Posted - 2008.05.04 05:56:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa We need an area-of-effect salvaging module. It'd have a radius of say, 20km and could not be fitted by carebears. This would prevent them from speeding their little isk farming missions along.
At any rate, I think it's a pretty good idea and should be investigated thoroughly.
I like it, it should require a security standing of -5 to use  |

Faife
Noctiscion Twilight Trade Cartel
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Posted - 2008.05.04 06:12:00 -
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salvage drones link
does exactly what you want, at out to your max drone range, so more than twice 20km.
saves me a whole lotta time. |

Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.05.04 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Faife salvage drones link
does exactly what you want, at out to your max drone range, so more than twice 20km.
saves me a whole lotta time.
Those have been seeded on tranq?! |

Freya Runestone
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.05.04 07:43:00 -
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Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Siigari, could you please enlighten us on how the game could see the difference between a PvPer and the PvEer - aka "The Carebear"? I mean, sometimes even I have problems on seeing the difference..
I think it's obvious, it wouldn't be fit to any ship, because if you fit it you're instantly a carebear. a pvper wouldn't fit a salvager. |

Corduroy Rab
Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.05.04 07:51:00 -
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It could be a capital module, like a Salvaging Dooms Day Device  |

Corduroy Rab
Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.05.04 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: Freya Runestone
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Siigari, could you please enlighten us on how the game could see the difference between a PvPer and the PvEer - aka "The Carebear"? I mean, sometimes even I have problems on seeing the difference..
I think it's obvious, it wouldn't be fit to any ship, because if you fit it you're instantly a carebear. a pvper wouldn't fit a salvager.
Plenty of pvpers fit salvagers in free utility slots, someone has got to salavge those wrecks after fleet fights 
...or maybe i just know alot of closet carebears |

techzer0
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.05.04 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Corduroy Rab ...or maybe i just know alot of closet carebears
You said it. 
Troll'd by siig  |

Freya Runestone
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.05.04 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: Corduroy Rab Plenty of pvpers fit salvagers in free utility slots, someone has got to salavge those wrecks after fleet fights 
...or maybe i just know alot of closet carebears
well a 20km radius salvager probably wouldn't fit CPU and grid wise in a utility slot :p unless you severely gimp your pvp setup |

Fredior Khan'Sebies
Minmatar Mikramurka Solace
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Posted - 2008.05.04 09:28:00 -
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Hmm, so I suppose this would work in conjuction with the capital tractor beam? Perhaps give the Rorqual a bonus for fitting this mod as well. |

Joe Starbreaker
Smoking Hillbillys Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.05.04 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Fredior Khan'Sebies Hmm, so I suppose this would work in conjuction with the capital tractor beam? Perhaps give the Rorqual a bonus for fitting this mod as well.
Hmm, I can see Rorquals running L4 blockade now... |
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