Battleships can get hit hard and Battleships can hit hard.

Tier 3 battlecruisers can only hit hard.

If you put a Talos against a Megathron the Mega is going to win. Why? Because the Megethron isn't going to be on fire a minute into the fight.

"I beg to differ, talos gets much more range than a mega and go do 800dps out to 45km with just about same tracking as a scorch zealot."

you're stupid... no bs sized weapon has as good tracking as a crusier sized weapon due to the fact of sig resolution...

try again...

I beg to differ, talos gets much more range than a mega and go do 800dps out to 45km with just about same tracking as a scorch zealot.

Also no offense but Ship A vs Ship B is an argument that will never be won in eve because the situation will never be as it was anticipated. By that logic a 400dps DD with 5k ehp will kill a 180dps jag with 6.5k ehp. Which can and cant happen.

Obviously a bs can be hit hard and a tier 3 cant but the problem exists with the fact...unless you are fighting a gang with tier 3's or scorch baddons/barrage tempest/mael then a tier 3 gang will slaughter a bs gang every single time as long as they can supply long point, which isent hard when every nano gang is running around with loki links and a 100km point arazu and 95km web huggin.
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lol eh yeah your stupid...for a start "SIGNATURE RESOLUTION" is not even a thing in the game. Its Signature Radius and a guns signature radius has NOTHING to do with it stracking.

Try again, dipshit

lol eh yeah your stupid...for a start "SIGNATURE RESOLUTION" is not even a thing in the game. Its Signature Radius and a guns signature radius has NOTHING to do with it stracking.

Try again, dipshit

Actually, there is signature resolution. Check any gun.

A gun with 400m sig res has to track 10x faster to hit the same target as a 40m sig res gun.

Try taking off the monocle, it reduces user IQ by 80.

That said, I am somewhat curious as to how the talos is so game breaking, when a mega gets nearly the same gun dps (with more drone dps) with the same guns while having the same bonuses. How exactly does the talos outrange the mega? Did they go and sneak a range bonus into it while I wasn't looking?

I beg to differ, talos gets much more range than a mega and go do 800dps out to 45km with just about same tracking as a scorch zealot.

Shield fit your mega and nano it, it will be faster +/- than your Talo

Even a plated/trimark Talos is faster than a shield mega by more than 100ms and still has much better comparative agility, so you're way off there.

You're doing it wrong

lol eh yeah your stupid...for a start "SIGNATURE RESOLUTION" is not even a thing in the game. Its Signature Radius and a guns signature radius has NOTHING to do with it stracking.

Try again, dipshit

...when they released the Tier 3 battlecruisers.

Back when you had something shiny tackled, "I HAVE A CHIMERA TACKLED, NEED DPS" everyone hopping in there Machariels, Vindicators and gank bs alike.

When CCP released these Tier 3's did they even think about the impact it would have any battleship usage. Yes battleships are still used in big gangs like baddons and arty maels.

Now there is even less reason to fly battleships in smaller gangs for a few reasons, why would you fly slow and armor tanked bs with guardians...when you can roam in Tier 3's with scimis.

Tier 3's are faster
They hit harder FOR SOME REASON
The talos tracks like a zealot WTF?

Those are the reasons to not fly a bs gang when if you can fly a bs with t2 guns, you can fly a Tier 3 with t2 guns.

So CCP seems to have never thought of Tier 3's just replacing battleships in the high DPS role.

They might not have the tank of a bs but why do you need 150k ehp when you are as mobile as any nano hac.

I really think the Tier 3's need another quick look at

Anyone who says otherwise is probably using them to a high degree or are just bitter.

I usually Adapt or Die but this just bugs me a little

Ironically ter3's are the only BCs in the game made the traditional way. Don't believe me look up WW1 Battle Cruisers British Royal Navy. they do their job and they do it well:p

Great. Now I've seen EVE ships and gameplay described in terms of tanks and WW1 naval ships. You guys do realize that this isn't supposed to model anything real, right?

The important part is that the game is balance, not that such and such ship works like a "Typhoon class submarine" while another serves as a "main battle tank." This is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT!

The typhoon looks more like a submarine than most of our spaceships, I think you're on to something there.