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Yoma Karima
Kuloldas
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Posted - 2012.03.04 13:24:00 -
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OfBalance wrote:Yoma Karima wrote:Ironically ter3's are the only BCs in the game made the traditional way. Don't believe me look up WW1 Battle Cruisers British Royal Navy. they do their job and they do it well:p And that's highly important in this game of spaceships with submarine physics.
And class this is why we don't post fun facts in eve forums as they are insta-trollbait.
Those who wish to end War wish to end what it means to be human.
Those who advocate War do not know its power.
Yet Those who learn from War will be remembered for all time.
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Veronica Kerrigan
Hand Of Midas
F0RCEFUL ENTRY
19
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Posted - 2012.03.04 15:14:00 -
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Gibbo3771 wrote:MeBiatch wrote:"I beg to differ, talos gets much more range than a mega and go do 800dps out to 45km with just about same tracking as a scorch zealot."
you're stupid... no bs sized weapon has as good tracking as a crusier sized weapon due to the fact of sig resolution...
try again...
lol eh yeah your stupid...for a start "SIGNATURE RESOLUTION" is not even a thing in the game. Its Signature Radius and a guns signature radius has NOTHING to do with it stracking. Try again, dipshit
You might want to look at game mechanics before insulting someone. There are to components of the tracking formula, compared to two stats of the opposing ship. The first is tracking speed versus angular velocity. This directly affects hit quality. The second calculation is SIGNATURE RESOLUTION versus signature radius. it is Signature radius divided by signature resolution, and then that multiplied with the tracking speed. This means that a ship with sig radius 40 compared to a neutron blaster's 400 sig res will be tracked at 10% the normal rate, effectively making the ship have an angular velocity 10x faster.
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Kingwood
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2012.03.04 16:22:00 -
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PvP is all about mobility and positioning, EHP is largely irrelevant. That held true before the introduction of the Tier3 BCs with Crucible so I'm really not sure why people are complaining now.
That said, Nano-Mega is fun to fly. |
Isaiah Harms
Buccaneer's Brotherhood
2
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Posted - 2012.03.05 23:18:00 -
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Pulgy wrote:Ti3s are paper thin.
That is all.
Doesn't matter. If it can't be caught it can't be killed.
But well done Dear CCP. The new Tier 3 battlercruisers are a spectacular success! There now exista calss of warship that can outrun and outgun any cruiser, battlecruiser, or battleship on the field. And due to the skill requirements of T2 large guns it further relegates those "other" ships to the ranks of the unskilled noobs.
So way to go! At last a ship with no counter! Sure if you land on it with a gang it's dead, but if you don't land on it everyone else is dead.
I realize CCP thought the dismal tank (in comparison to battleships) would make it "balanced", yet coupled with it's superior firepower and amazing speed it'll own any challenger.
So guess what? We can all get rid of those other pesky battlecruiser hulls because CCP finally has the solution to killing Drakes, and anything else out there.
*** And don't talk to me about gang warfare. You'll really hate what a gang of Tier 3's can do with logistic support *** |
Sjugar
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.05 23:48:00 -
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While a T3 battlecruiser really is a nice damage platform it can't hold anything in place. If you don't like the way the fight is going, just warp off.
They do need support to keep things in place or a meatshield keeping the enemy on the field whereas battleships and drakes can stand on their own. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
834
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Posted - 2012.03.06 14:34:00 -
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Sjugar wrote:While a T3 battlecruiser really is a nice damage platform it can't hold anything in place. If you don't like the way the fight is going, just warp off.
They do need support to keep things in place or a meatshield keeping the enemy on the field whereas battleships and drakes can stand on their own.
Paper thin insta Canes, paper thin insta Tornados, paper thin insta Nagas and Oracles are a nightmare just because they can target you before you can target back, **** your ship before you can hit warp button while moving faster than any other BC and some cruisers in the game.
What can you do? -not much
Bm strategic points, drop bubbles, gate camp them, bomb them (3 good bomb pilots are enough to completely **** a full fleet of those), warp in the middle of those and shread them while spamming in local "I was there", snipe them with paper thin battleships (2xtank than those BC's and at least 15% more dps provided you do a good fit)
There are a few tools to counter but if you get caught, and I often do, then it's a part of the game and you must man up shut your mouth and work on to get payback.
When you **** a full fleet of those with just a couple of bombers, they will just stop moving in large groups. loot/profit 
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Longinius Spear
Double-Down
Narwhals Ate My Duck
5
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Posted - 2012.03.06 17:39:00 -
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HE MEANS TO DEFECT!! Then BLAM-O... Darth Vader destroys the Air to Water sub destroyer... and pulls the Jedi Mind trick on a crewman, along with anyone else in the room... or on the radio.... or in that helicopter... or the guy who loaded the torpedo from the ship to the helicopter... and stuff...
Subs are cool. So are russians. ... and torpedos.. and battleships.. |
Silas Shaw
Coffee Hub
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Posted - 2012.03.06 18:21:00 -
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Gibbo3771 wrote:MeBiatch wrote:"I beg to differ, talos gets much more range than a mega and go do 800dps out to 45km with just about same tracking as a scorch zealot."
you're stupid... no bs sized weapon has as good tracking as a crusier sized weapon due to the fact of sig resolution...
try again...
lol eh yeah your stupid...for a start "SIGNATURE RESOLUTION" is not even a thing in the game. Its Signature Radius and a guns signature radius has NOTHING to do with it stracking. Try again, dipshit
7/10
I almost got baited into trying to explain why you're post is ********. |
PotatoOverdose
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
Flatline.
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Posted - 2012.03.07 04:48:00 -
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The problem with the OP's point is that he assumes battleships were used in small gangs BEFORE crucible. They weren't. For the past few years, small gangs (not large sov fleets) used BC's and ahac's and smaller stuff. T3 BC's didn't decrease small gang BS usage because BS weren't used by small gangs in the first place.
If anything, T3 BC's hurt HAC usage, but that is another topic. BS aren't used in smaller gangs because they aren't mobile enough to run away from bigger gangs. Simple as that. And that's OK. BS are slowish tanky damage boats (Ignoring the Mach). That's their role. You don't see Dreads in small gangs either. And that's okay too. |
Stabs McShiv
MINUS4
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Posted - 2012.03.07 12:36:00 -
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Tier 3s work well with nano/sniper gangs and with low mass battleship like dps fleets that wont wreck a wormhole. Alpha pops them easy so they do not replace bs in the fights where ehp and logi matters working as intended imo. |
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