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Lynkon Lawg
Caldari
Second Six Corporation
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Posted - 2008.05.06 16:31:00 -
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I keep hearing people refer to Moms and Motherships, but I only see the catagory of Carriers.
What is the difference in the two? Which are which?
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Schena
Lone Starr Corporation
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Posted - 2008.05.06 16:32:00 -
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There should be 2 ships in the carrier section on the market.
The mothership is the bigger of the two, also the one you can't find sell orders on the market
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Jenna fe
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Posted - 2008.05.06 16:46:00 -
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Motherships cost about 15bil compared to 800mil for a carrier. They are bigger, have a lot more shield, armor, and hull, more slots, can use a lot more fighters, bigger drone bay, and best of all are immune to almost every type of electronic warfare. You can't jam, damp, web or scram a mothership using normal equipment. The only type of EW a mothership is vunerable to is neut/nos, and being scrammed by a bubble (or a focused script using heavy interdictor). Motherships can also use the clone vat bay, which allows you to install a jump clone into the mothership, if you jump to it your pod appears in space next to the MS.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.05.06 16:48:00 -
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The "Carrier" group has two ship types : carrier and mothership.
Raw combat performance wise, a mothership is worth at best as much as two carriers (hitpoints, firepower, tanking power, larger holds), while costing somewhere around 20 times more.
Motherships do have some additional benefits though, compared to a carrier.
First, motherships are imune to EWar. That means you can not ECM-jam them, you can not sensor dampen them, you can not web them, you can not scramble them with a regular warp scrambler (you can scrable them, but with an interdictor).
Second, they can use the remote ECM burst module. Not particularly powerful, but when used at the right moment, it could potentially be a great asset.
Last but not least, you can install clone vat bays on it, allowing friendly pilots to clone jump right into the battle (and pick up a ship from your mothership's bay, if you have some there) from anywhere in the EVE cluster.
However, there are also a couple of nasty drawbacks to motherships.
The main (and most hurtful) drawback is the fact you can not dock anywhere with a Mothership. It doesn't fit in any station.
This means, once you are flying one, you can either "live" in it permanently, or risk leaving it somewhere where somebody could steal or destroy it.
That's why usually people don't fly mothership on their mains, they have alts that never leave the mothership once occupied.
It also means you need to refit in space, you don't have access to a station fiting service (and fiting in space can be a painful process).
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lyrenna
Caldari
Soliders Of Eve
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Posted - 2008.05.06 17:18:00 -
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the main difference is price tag |
James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
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Posted - 2008.05.06 18:39:00 -
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Motherships are bigger scarier carriers.
* More fighters
* Bigger tank
* invulnerable to most ewar
* can fit cloning bays
* can fit remote ecm bursts
* can't dock |
Lynkon Lawg
Caldari
Second Six Corporation
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Posted - 2008.05.06 19:10:00 -
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Thanks for the info.
You cannot dock a mothership, but if you eject from it within a POS bubble, isn't it protected from attack...or is it larger than the bubble?
Someone mentioned fitting in space being a pain. I've noticed that when I drag items into fittings from my POS ship bay using parts either from cargo hold OR corp hanger array, that they snap online immediately. I had read that you need to do the "95% power" thing and wait or tranfer a recharge. That's doesn't seem to be the case. Am I bugged, exploiting, or was something changed since the newb POS guide was written?
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Soeniss Delazur
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.05.06 19:39:00 -
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Motherships belong to the so-called "supercapital ship" class, and share this class with Titans only.
Carriers are common capital ships. |
Terra Fe
Corp 1 Allstars
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.06 22:50:00 -
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Edited by: Terra Fe on 06/05/2008 22:50:10
Motherships are easily smaller than a pos bubble, so you can eject from one inside and be safe from attack. But not safe from thieves And that pos guide is probably out of date. |
xenodia
Gallente
Mortis Incarnatus
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Posted - 2008.05.06 23:50:00 -
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 Originally by: Lynkon Lawg
I keep hearing people refer to Moms and Motherships, but I only see the catagory of Carriers.
What is the difference in the two? Which are which?
Motherships (MOMS) are the bigger and more expensive of the 2 carriers for each faction. They have different abilities and attributes than the "regular" carriers, so I dont know why CCP didnt put them in their own class, but they didnt.
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xenodia
Gallente
Mortis Incarnatus
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Posted - 2008.05.06 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: Lynkon Lawg
Someone mentioned fitting in space being a pain. I've noticed that when I drag items into fittings from my POS ship bay using parts either from cargo hold OR corp hanger array, that they snap online immediately. I had read that you need to do the "95% power" thing and wait or tranfer a recharge. That's doesn't seem to be the case. Am I bugged, exploiting, or was something changed since the newb POS guide was written?
Back in the day, thats how it was. It could easily take you half an hour to fully refit a battleship at a POS. It got changed a while back. |
Ruciza
Minmatar
The Feminists
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Posted - 2008.05.07 00:34:00 -
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Edited by: Ruciza on 07/05/2008 00:34:50
Motherships are one of the best operational and strategic support ships, but they generally aren't used like that. They are mostly paid for by single pilots as an "endgame", who want to use them as solopwnmobiles, on the battlefield, instead of support off the battlefield where they really shine.
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